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Old 08-14-2009 | 07:33 PM
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Audi RS4 has a V8 with a redline of 8250.
Old 08-14-2009 | 08:08 PM
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Audi RS4 has a V8 with a redline of 8250.
Which American car company makes the Audi RS4?
Old 08-14-2009 | 09:30 PM
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I keep on reading people say the Renesis is:

rpm gauge / 3

Therefore, those same people should keep repeating 238 hp at 3000 rpm. Where are they? They just talk and disappear to nowhere.
Old 08-14-2009 | 10:45 PM
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DAmn it, this is starting to look like the damn MotorTrend forums.
Old 08-14-2009 | 10:57 PM
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Which American car company makes the Audi RS4?
Your mom.

Sorry, inner 12 year old gets loose when I'm drunk.

Others have been mentioning non-domestics. Thought I'd add to the alleged indictment of the US manufacturers.
Old 08-15-2009 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by User24
I keep on reading people say the Renesis is:

rpm gauge / 3

Therefore, those same people should keep repeating 238 hp at 3000 rpm. Where are they? They just talk and disappear to nowhere.
Well, technically, in our motors at 9k RPM the rotor is only traveling at 3k RPM. BUT, with three rotor faces you are experiencing 9k ignitions per minute, per rotor, so for our motors we are talking 18,000 fires per minute.

With a piston engine, even for this example a 4 cylinder, 4 ignitions * 6,500 RPM = 26,000 fires per minute.

Now, someone can feel free to correct any math or mistakes I have made. But in the end, does it matter? Nope. You either have power or you dont, doesnt matter where it is in the power band or how hard your motor has to work to make it.
Old 08-15-2009 | 02:33 PM
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The Chrysler Turbine car from 1963 had a 60,000 rpm redline

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Turbine_Car

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IF0VbUb_Ug
Old 08-15-2009 | 08:13 PM
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blah blah blah, big displacement lazy engines, along with chrome wheels and chrome stripping, are as american as apple pie....
Old 08-15-2009 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lithium Lotus
The Chrysler Turbine car from 1963 had a 60,000 rpm redline

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Turbine_Car

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IF0VbUb_Ug
That's a pretty damn awesome car... running on tequila
Old 08-15-2009 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoss
Well, technically, in our motors at 9k RPM the rotor is only traveling at 3k RPM. BUT, with three rotor faces you are experiencing 9k ignitions per minute, per rotor, so for our motors we are talking 18,000 fires per minute.

With a piston engine, even for this example a 4 cylinder, 4 ignitions * 6,500 RPM = 26,000 fires per minute.

Now, someone can feel free to correct any math or mistakes I have made. But in the end, does it matter? Nope. You either have power or you dont, doesnt matter where it is in the power band or how hard your motor has to work to make it.
Not all 4 cylinders fire every revolution. Same with a rotary, the rotors are offset each other so only 1 fires at a time.
Old 08-16-2009 | 06:50 PM
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What matters is the actual rotations per minute of the flywheel. I think that when the RX8 tach shows 9000, the flywheel is at 9000.
Old 08-16-2009 | 08:59 PM
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One thing I will say against the American manufacuteres is that they really aren't competing at all for me as a customer. I just purchased a brand new car and what I was in the market for was a sports car for $40,000 or less. I consider being willing to pay up to $40,000 to be a respectable budget and with over 10 American brands, one would think that I would have had tons of American competition for my money.

Unfortunately, the only American made sports car I could find in this price range is the Pontiac Solstice/Saturn Sky. I test drove a Solstice GXP and really liked the car, but absolutely hated the 5 speed transmission that GM got from their parts bin. I am really a sports car guy and have no interest in performance sedans or pony cars. I really wish America would make more sports cars; but then again, I think all manufactures should make more sports cars.
Old 08-17-2009 | 08:54 AM
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how many companies in general has one?

honda, mazda, bmw, toyota

big freaking deal. it makes no difference when they make more poower at 2000 rpm than you at 8k
niecly said bro
Old 08-17-2009 | 09:00 AM
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They all have sports cars that are under $40k... They just might not fit what you are looking for.

The american manufacturers are focusing on what sells to everyone right now, not just a niche market. They gotta get their heads above water before they can start belting out specialty vehicles.
Old 08-17-2009 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by chameleonGTS
One thing I will say against the American manufacuteres is that they really aren't competing at all for me as a customer. I just purchased a brand new car and what I was in the market for was a sports car for $40,000 or less. I consider being willing to pay up to $40,000 to be a respectable budget and with over 10 American brands, one would think that I would have had tons of American competition for my money.

Unfortunately, the only American made sports car I could find in this price range is the Pontiac Solstice/Saturn Sky. I test drove a Solstice GXP and really liked the car, but absolutely hated the 5 speed transmission that GM got from their parts bin. I am really a sports car guy and have no interest in performance sedans or pony cars. I really wish America would make more sports cars; but then again, I think all manufactures should make more sports cars.
Corvettes were selling for $40K at this time, faster than anything you can buy for the price for sure.
Old 08-18-2009 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chameleonGTS
One thing I will say against the American manufacuteres is that they really aren't competing at all for me as a customer. I just purchased a brand new car and what I was in the market for was a sports car for $40,000 or less. I consider being willing to pay up to $40,000 to be a respectable budget and with over 10 American brands, one would think that I would have had tons of American competition for my money.

Unfortunately, the only American made sports car I could find in this price range is the Pontiac Solstice/Saturn Sky. I test drove a Solstice GXP and really liked the car, but absolutely hated the 5 speed transmission that GM got from their parts bin. I am really a sports car guy and have no interest in performance sedans or pony cars. I really wish America would make more sports cars; but then again, I think all manufactures should make more sports cars.
While I agree with what you said, what other companies offer a sports car for under 40k? There really isn't much out there period. You've got the RX-8, 350/370z and since you mentioned the Solstice I guess you can throw the MX-5 in there. What else is there? Anything else you are getting into BMW, Porsche, Lotus price ranges.

And I guess I should say I tend to differentiate between what some would all lump into the sports car category. I do not include muscle cars (Mustang, Challenger, etc.) or rally cars (Impreza, Evo, etc.) in my definition of a sports car.

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Old 08-18-2009 | 02:35 PM
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^ well you havent driven the new cts ctsv or camaro or fusion sho or NEW mustang or xlrv or g8 gt/gxp ... there are more if i keep thinking but my point is theyre improving and doing great at that so why not give em credit for it ... i know their cars have sucked ***** before but theyre coming back strong ... look at the ctsv it will eat an m5 for nearly half the price handling and power wise
Well the ironic thing about the CTS, Camaro, and G8...is the chassis is not American at all!

It's Australian.

Fusion, new mustang I don't know anything about.

PS having a high revving engine is fun and all...but i would gladly take a lower rev limit for more hp and torque under the entire curve.

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Old 08-18-2009 | 02:36 PM
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s2200, regular boxster. maybe slk
Old 08-18-2009 | 02:57 PM
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s2200, regular boxster. maybe slk

Ha ha. Ya I too agree they should have been honest and called it the 2200. Thing is, Honda could have said the motor made about 255 bhp, instead of the same 240 bhp, because according to dynos anyway, the ap2's make about 10 whp over the ap1's. This would have basically retained the original bhp/liter.
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Originally Posted by Daemos
Well the ironic thing about the CTS, Camaro, and G8...is the chassis is not American at all!

It's Australian.

Fusion, new mustang I don't know anything about.

PS having a high revving engine is fun and all...but i would gladly take a lower rev limit for more hp and torque under the entire curve.
yup i know its made in Australia but its still made by Holden ... a gm company thus it may not be made in America but still pretty American ... the fusion is also based off the ford europe platform but the mustang is all American ... you know what the suckiest part is: i used to live in dubai and then in saudi arabia and they had the caprice/impala and lumins there throughout the years the americans ditched it here in the us and used the shitty impala they have here and if they had those cars over here theres NO WAY IN HELL toyota or anyone else would have taken over their number one spot they were amazing cars ...
Old 08-18-2009 | 03:09 PM
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The eccentric shaft can hit 9,000 RPM.

It takes 3 rotations of the shaft to make a full revolution on each rotor..

The engine/flywheel speed is still equal to the tach, it's not a "fake" RPM.
Old 08-20-2009 | 10:13 PM
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I had a Dodge 340 that would turn 7500 rpm, a friend had a Chevy 301 (Yeah 301) that would turn 9800 rpm.
No, they were not stock internally, you could not tell from the outside though....
Old 08-20-2009 | 10:36 PM
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What year was this? Max that I can recall was in the 19s. In '08 season they were rev-limited to 19k, this year 18k.
It was the late 90's as I recall.
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Thread is still going on??? lol
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