anyone else stumbled across this full ceramic wankel?
#26
Compared to ceramics... yes, metals are poor conductors of heat.
And by the way, ceramics are capable of absorbing more heat than metals. This is how ceramic coated exhaust manifolds can be more efficient than non-coated ones at reducing engine bay temperatures.
And by the way, ceramics are capable of absorbing more heat than metals. This is how ceramic coated exhaust manifolds can be more efficient than non-coated ones at reducing engine bay temperatures.
#28
There was no misunderstanding on my part.
The radiator is a good conductor of heat not because of the material but, because of its large surface area. The radiator fluid itself is an even better conductor of heat because it absorbs and dissipates heat very rapidly compared to the engine block materials.
Ceramic coated headers are good conductors of heat (compared to their non-coated counterparts) because the ceramics absorb and dissipates heat more efficiently than the metal that it coats.
The radiator is a good conductor of heat not because of the material but, because of its large surface area. The radiator fluid itself is an even better conductor of heat because it absorbs and dissipates heat very rapidly compared to the engine block materials.
Ceramic coated headers are good conductors of heat (compared to their non-coated counterparts) because the ceramics absorb and dissipates heat more efficiently than the metal that it coats.
First lets look at the meaning of the word conduct when used as a verb in this context.
Conduct (v): To serve as a channel or medium for (heat, electricity, sound, etc.)
Source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conduct
So thermal conductivity is the efficiency at which a material can transmit heat from one material to another.
Now look at the attached picture. Lets assume that chambers A and C are filled with air at normal atmospheric pressure at about room temperature. Lets assume that these chambers are perfectly sealed to object B and can have no interaction with anything but object B.
For the first example, we'll have object B represent a solid piece of metal. If I were to instantly make chamber A 300 degrees, but chamber C was still room temperature, the metal would begin to CONDUCT heat energy from chamber A to chamber C until they reached equilibrium. If I were to coat this same piece of metal in ceramic, the time it takes for it to conduct that same amount of heat energy over to the other chamber would be LONGER than without the ceramic coating. Meaning that the bare metal is BETTER at conducting heat from one chamber to the other.
This is why we use ceramic coatings for headers, so that it conducts LESS heat from inside the headers to the outside of the headers, effectively lowering engine bay temperatures. Because it is LESS efficient at conducting heat.
I've also attached a chart of the thermal conductivity of common materials. Notice how Aluminum is about 250 times BETTER at conducting heat than wood? Also notice how Aluminum is about 4 times BETTER at conducting heat than stainless steel? What material a radiator is made out of still has a huge impact on its performance.
Also note that air and water are very poor thermal conductors.
Seriously if you're still that thickheaded after this explanation, go read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity
#29
Compared to ceramics... yes, metals are poor conductors of heat.
And by the way, ceramics are capable of absorbing more heat than metals. This is how ceramic coated exhaust manifolds can be more efficient than non-coated ones at reducing engine bay temperatures.
And by the way, ceramics are capable of absorbing more heat than metals. This is how ceramic coated exhaust manifolds can be more efficient than non-coated ones at reducing engine bay temperatures.
When a header is ceramic coated it acts as an insulator because the ceramic does not conduct heat as well as the metal below it, which is why heat remains in the header and the surface temp of a ceramic coated header is less than one without the coating.
Now if you talking about which will retain heat for a longer period of time I would say Ceramics, this does not make it a better conductor.
#31
Compared to ceramics... yes, metals are poor conductors of heat.
And by the way, ceramics are capable of absorbing more heat than metals. This is how ceramic coated exhaust manifolds can be more efficient than non-coated ones at reducing engine bay temperatures.
And by the way, ceramics are capable of absorbing more heat than metals. This is how ceramic coated exhaust manifolds can be more efficient than non-coated ones at reducing engine bay temperatures.
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#33
Materials with a high R rating, like ceramic, are poor heat conductors. Materials with low R ratings, like metals, are good heat conductors.
You CANNOT have a material that has a high R rating and is also a good conductor of heat. That doesn't make ANY sense.
But I'm pretty much done here if you're going to continue being this ignorant when multiple people have explained to you why your logic is backwards.
#34
Perhaps I should mention that I am extremely tired and yet cannot sleep.
I meant to say the same things as you guys. I do understand it. My tired brain is making it difficult to make coherent sentences and lines of thought.
I seem to have mis-used the definitions of conductivity and insulation. When I wake up tomorrow and re-read what I posted, I am sure that I will be giving myself the biggest face-palm of them all in bewilderment of myself.
I meant to say the same things as you guys. I do understand it. My tired brain is making it difficult to make coherent sentences and lines of thought.
I seem to have mis-used the definitions of conductivity and insulation. When I wake up tomorrow and re-read what I posted, I am sure that I will be giving myself the biggest face-palm of them all in bewilderment of myself.
#35
At the moment my cognitive abilities are compromised. I am sure that some of you have done the same a time or two while intoxicated or what not.
I do humbly apologize for any misunderstanding. Don't hold it against me.
#36
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