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Old 04-25-2004, 10:10 PM
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Perhaps if you did take the time to write something coherently, then your arguments might be taken more seriously.

Actually, I graduated Magna *** Laude and have a professional license. I also own an EVO.

Thanks for the "lashing", its been an education. :p




Originally posted by rx8miami
btw, you little comment about semi-correct english is out of line. simply becasue I am not glued to the comp. as you probably are (computer geek) I type quite poorly. when I type quickly it seems to come out as jiberish. secondly, I would gladly take you on any debate forum you punk. you probably never went to college or saw a college campus so please don't try to patronize me.

evo............. you probably have not driven it so don't speak of what you do not know.

sorry I spoke of the two cars against my previous post, but revboys pathetic comments merrited a lashing.
Old 04-25-2004, 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by rx8miami
evo............. you probably have not driven it so don't speak of what you do not know.

Huh??? Who's evo?
Old 04-25-2004, 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
Huh??? Who's evo?
He meant E V I L
Old 04-25-2004, 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by RX8-TX
He meant E V I L
I'm bored, lets go make fun of the kids over at ClubRSX :D
Old 04-25-2004, 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
I'm bored, lets go make fun of the kids over at ClubRSX :D
Ahhh, been bussy over there already! Go check out AWD RSX Killer's thread...
Old 04-26-2004, 03:17 AM
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The EVO has ownership of the RX8 in a parking lot, on a road course, and at the drag strip. Don't feel bad. The EVO has ownership of cars that cost ten times as much!
BTW autocrossing is the dog biscuits.
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hey just a question, a serious one at that. Ike, with all the rex sites out there and all the tuning sites for your car which I enjoyed every minute while I owned; why do you roam through an 8 forum?
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Originally posted by rx8miami
i challenge you to drive lets say a clk amg, vette z06,even a nissan 350z, honda s2000 as you sited. drive them at 100mph plus and they feel like you are driving 45mph. don't know if you have but since you are such a pro and us ameteurs really don't know how cars are to handle and sound at high speed why don't you do the comparison. the mistu at any speed above 45 mph feels like it is goign to take off and fly into orbit. all of the above referenced cars feel nice and firm at high speeds.
By this quote it is very evident that you have NOT driven the EVO at any speeds above 45 mph. I own an EVO and it is by far the most stable car I've driven above 100 mph and is certainly more stable than the S2000.

Originally posted by rx8miami
in short, the all wheel drive system that std. on all subies works well with all subies. mitsu did something wrong with the evo and it just feel sflat out wrong.
Hmmm...this is another gem. Are you sure you drove an EVO and not base lancer? The AWD in the EVO is beautiful. It's very neutral in mid to high speed corners but does push in the slow hairpins. Overall an amazing drivetrain.

I've driven a friends WRX that's dropped and has enough go fast parts to keep up with the EVO and his car is a slob through the corners. Very difficult to manage.

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Old 04-26-2004, 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by rx8miami
hey just a question, a serious one at that. Ike, with all the rex sites out there and all the tuning sites for your car which I enjoyed every minute while I owned; why do you roam through an 8 forum?
Ther WRX has been out a few years, anything I really want to know has already been discussed and is just a quick search away. I still post on those sites and a couple other auto forums but I mainly use them as a reference. I came here out of interest in the car and to the shagrin or some RX-8 owners have just stayed, but I'm not as universally hated on these boards as some would like to think.
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that's cool, I was just curious as to why thats all.
Old 06-20-2004, 04:49 PM
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Hi all,

just had the opportunity to testdrive an EVO 8.

My impressions:
- looks (int & ext) are not in pair with any of my cars
- compared to My VR4 the engine (or turbo) is like a dead animal. Late to response and builds up torque well over 5000.
Compared to the 8, has way more less push in the low RPM-s. Overall meybe a tad faster but doesn't feel so.
- brakes have better bite, but the tyres (Potenza RE050) are worse than the RE040-s on the 8. Hitting the break instantenously locks the wheels, tyres squeez but car deccelerates guite weakly. Vwry dissaplointing.
- more body roll than in tne 8! I was really surprised about this because standing the car felt wery solid (I pushed it from the side). The VR4 is in a different cathegory (above) in sport mode. Unfortunately cann't compete overall due to it's weight.

So I'm happy I had this opportunity, and am not regretting my choice any more
On the other hand I'm a bit sad, I was expecting something more speciall from the EVO.
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Well I thought I would chime in on this tread since I can officially state my opinion on both the RX-8 and the EVO. My roommate has the RX-8 and I've had my EVO for over a year now.

Comfort:
First thing I immediately noticed was the seats are very uncomfortable. The bottom of the seat right were my tail bone is there is some kind of metal bar that digs into me if i set up straight, so definetely not a good long trip cruiser. Back seat is on the other hand very nice. I am 5'9" and I fit perfectly and I love how the back seat is split so it feels like bucket seats in the back unlike the evo, passengers will get thrown side to side if cornering hard. Gauges in the car are very nice compared to the EVO, but the only thing I don't like is the digital speedometer. Gauges can be all amber for comfort or they can be set to look like the ones in the new hondas. Very bright with red needles. (Electroluminescent)

Power:
Torque??? lol there is NONE! Car just feels very slow compared to the evo. I would say 0-60 is close to 7 seconds not 5.8 as in stated in most magazine reviews. Power delivery is on the otherhand very very smooth and linear all the way to redline and the car beeps at you around 7800 rpm to shift, but just lacks that kick in the butt feeling the evo gives where your body starts sinking in the seat as the turbo raises pressure in the cylinders.

Handling:

Car corners pretty flat, very little body rolll, drives smoother over bumps than the evo. Steering response is not immediate as in the EVO. I can turn the steering wheel a little bit and it doesn't have the immediate turn in that the EVO has. Feels a lot like my old Integra GSR

Looks:

Fantastic looking car, very different than most cars on the road and since he got black it has the appearance of some kind of batmobile hehe

Final opinion:

This car is not for me. Too slow, worse gas mileage than the EVO, not as comfortable as the EVO and definetly not as fun to drive overall.



Comparing the EVO to the RX-8 is like comparing apples to oranges. Two totally different cars, and the EVO comes out the winner anyways. My roommate has an rx-8 and its just a totally different car compared to the evo.

RX-8 is all show and no go. I like the RX-8 no question. What Mazda did power wise is bull-****. They better come out with a Mazdaspeed RX-8 soon (w/turbo)

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Old 06-21-2004, 11:59 AM
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I am not sure why this is still alive. Accept the EVO will out perform cars in a lot higher price brackets and that has nothing to do with why you would buy a RX-8
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I am not sure why this is still alive. Accept the EVO will out perform cars in a lot higher price brackets and that has nothing to do with why you would buy a RX-8
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Old 06-21-2004, 01:50 PM
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Wow, an EVO owner who says his car is better than the RX-8? Shocking.
The internet is full of good information.
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7 sec 0-60? lol..............maybe for the Auto. The manual will do 0-60 in 6secs, but you have to push it hard.
Old 09-04-2004, 01:26 AM
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No comparison, you have your neon/srt-4/wrx/sti/lancer/evolution class..

Then you have your S2000/G35/Corvette/RX-8 class...

I know, I drive both types and well, the RX-8 has ruined the Talon for me. It feels like a bloated up econobox with a heavy clutch now and I used to think it felt perfect...
Old 09-04-2004, 11:31 PM
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Can somebody move this debate into the "General Automotive" where it belongs. The "my car is better than your car" threads don't belong in the "Competition (Racing)" forum. Moderator? Hello?
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i would, but i'm not mod on this forum. i'll take care of it, though.
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some of you failto realize that the rx8 is a naturally aspired engine and the evo is not. do the same kinda mods to an 8 and we'll see who spanks who!!!
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Originally Posted by SinDiego
some of you failto realize that the rx8 is a naturally aspired engine and the evo is not. do the same kinda mods to an 8 and we'll see who spanks who!!!
Ok, let me see the dyno sheet for that FI RX-8, oh wait... Even if your imaginery turbo RX-8 did exist the Evo is so obsecenly easy to make faster that it won't matter mod for mod stock for stock, you lose. But you guys do have a nicer interior and a better looking car
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Originally Posted by 350z Driver
What is the point of comparing a turbo'd up AWD econo car (interiorwise) to a N/A RWD touring car?

You are comparing apples to oranges here.. How about Evo vs Sti? The Sti beats the Evo in just about every acceleration catagory.. What is there to duke out? I havn't seen anybody here really care about comparing the 2 cars except for you.
I don't see why can't you compare these two. You can compare anything you like, you can compare Odyssey to Sienna, you can compare Odyssey to Accord, you can compare 350Z to S2000, you can compare 350Z to G35 sedan, you can compare 350Z to Mini Cooper S. Do they have to be so similar to be compared? In my opinion, both Evo and RX-8 are sports cars, so they are well matched to be compared. I want to see Evo vs. 350Z vs. RX-8 vs. S2000 vs. Sti. They are the fastest cars from each Japanese company.
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I'm sorry but the EVO will crush the RX8 in every performance category, even in fuel consumption I'd bet (18/26mpg).

According to Top gear, EVO completed their test track in 1:28.9, RX8 in 1:31.8.

The RX8 has nothing on the EVO or STi, mainly because they are not in the same class!
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I don't understand these pointless threads. Everyone already knows the answer. Why beat a dead horse unless you really need the constant reassurance? You don't see Z06 owners coming to this forum and going which faster? RX-8 or Z06.

Honestly an RX-8 owner would never cross shop an Evo. The Evo is the epitome of what kids end up with after heavily modifying their existing 4-door sedans. They are looked up to by all the riced up Civics, Accords, Corollas, and Altimas.

LOL, its just too easy to make fun of the Evo. The car looks just goofy.

Would it make all the Evo owners feel better if we all bought Evos? Then we can be just as cool as you guys.

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Old 09-06-2004, 08:47 AM
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Another pointless comparison?????
I guess the media fuels these uneven comparos; just have a look at this one from a well respected Australian publication:

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-media-news-11/australia-wheels-magazine-aug-04-evo-viii-vs-rx-8-vs-hsv-clubbie-35301/


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