BMW 335i test and dyno numbers from Automobile
08-11-2006, 12:55 PM
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BMW 335i test and dyno numbers from Automobile
Compared against its big brother, the E46 M3:
Test - M3 - 335i
0-60 - 4.8 - 5.1
0-100 - 11.5 - 12.7
0-110 - 14.5 - 15.6
0-120 - N/A - 18.6
0-140 - N/A - 28.2
1/4 mile - 13.4@105 - 13.6@104
peak g - 0.7 - 0.68
30-70 (6th) - 14.7 - 12.5
30-70 (3rd) - N/A - 6.5
70-0 - 162 - 150
Peak g - 1.12 - 1.12
Weight - 3480 - 3560
%F/R - 50.6/49.4 - 51.1/48.9
Redline - 8000 - 7000
Power - 333 - 300
Torque - 262 - 300
http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...i_dynamometer/
Test - M3 - 335i
0-60 - 4.8 - 5.1
0-100 - 11.5 - 12.7
0-110 - 14.5 - 15.6
0-120 - N/A - 18.6
0-140 - N/A - 28.2
1/4 mile - 13.4@105 - 13.6@104
peak g - 0.7 - 0.68
30-70 (6th) - 14.7 - 12.5
30-70 (3rd) - N/A - 6.5
70-0 - 162 - 150
Peak g - 1.12 - 1.12
Weight - 3480 - 3560
%F/R - 50.6/49.4 - 51.1/48.9
Redline - 8000 - 7000
Power - 333 - 300
Torque - 262 - 300
The non-turbocharged 330i, rated by BMW at 255 hp and 220 lb-ft of torque, puts about 200 hp and 180 lb-ft to the rear wheels. That’s roughly a twenty-percent loss. Since they have similar drivelines, you’d expect the 335i to put down 235 hp and 250 lb-ft.
But it didn’t. It put down a whole lot more: 275 hp and 300 lb-ft. A few quick taps on our trusty calculator shows that this engine is likely putting out closer to 350 hp and 360 lb-ft of torque.
But it didn’t. It put down a whole lot more: 275 hp and 300 lb-ft. A few quick taps on our trusty calculator shows that this engine is likely putting out closer to 350 hp and 360 lb-ft of torque.
08-11-2006, 01:21 PM
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Meh. I don't like all the techie crap they throw into these luxo cars. Power seats, navigation, seat heaters? Who the hell needs that bs?
Take the 335ci, and make it a 335 CSL and then you're talking. Strip all that superfluous bullcrap out of it, lighten it up wherever possible, and then you've got a sweet ride.
Take the 335ci, and make it a 335 CSL and then you're talking. Strip all that superfluous bullcrap out of it, lighten it up wherever possible, and then you've got a sweet ride.
08-11-2006, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bascho
I wonder what $$$ BMW will want for this little gem?
The 2007 BMW 328i Coupe will be priced at $35,995 while the 335i Coupe, with its 300 horsepower twin-turbo inline six cylinder engine, will have an MSRP of $41,295. The new 328xi Coupe, with BMW's advanced xDrive all-wheel drive system, will retail for $37,795. All prices include a $695 destination and handling charge.
08-11-2006, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8-79
The 2007 BMW 328i Coupe will be priced at $35,995 while the 335i Coupe, with its 300 horsepower twin-turbo inline six cylinder engine, will have an MSRP of $41,295. The new 328xi Coupe, with BMW's advanced xDrive all-wheel drive system, will retail for $37,795. All prices include a $695 destination and handling charge.
Under $45K is a bargain for a car that can hang with the current M3. Good luck finding a 2-year old used M3 for that price. I have a feeling the 2007 335i will speed-up depreciation of the M3 in the secondary market in the near future.
08-11-2006, 02:02 PM
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You can find CPO'ed 2004 M3's for around 45k all day long. And, since BMW's aren't exactly drag cars, I'd withold comments about hanging with the M3 until you see some track testing.
08-11-2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSky
the 2.8 is back?
Originally Posted by BlueEyes
And, since BMW's aren't exactly drag cars, I'd withold comments about hanging with the M3 until you see some track testing.
08-11-2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
You can find CPO'ed 2004 M3's for around 45k all day long. And, since BMW's aren't exactly drag cars, I'd withold comments about hanging with the M3 until you see some track testing.
08-11-2006, 02:16 PM
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Nope. It's called the 328, but its a 230 hp 3.0L six.
It's right there in the article; .3 secs slower to 60, .2 secs slower in the quarter, and 2 secs FASTER in a top gear roll-on easily equates to hanging with the M3.
It's right there in the article; .3 secs slower to 60, .2 secs slower in the quarter, and 2 secs FASTER in a top gear roll-on easily equates to hanging with the M3.
08-11-2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
As for 2004's, go on BMW's website and look at their pre-owned inventory. There are a bunch of 2004s in the mid-40's range.
I'm not saying they don't exist.....it's just that a large % of the used M3's are holding value (many still trading in the $50k range). If I'm shopping for a $45K BMW, I would choose the 2007 335i over the 2004 M3 with 30K miles any day of the week and twice on Sunday. The M3 may prove to be a better track car once track testing has been posted.....but for the majority of driving the 335i will do everything the current M3 can do.
08-11-2006, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Are you dumb? I ask because I'm pretty sure that in the comment of mine that you quoted I said that BMW's aren't exactly drag cars. And that we should wait until some track testing before proclaiming the 335 can hang. Yet you still gave me drag times, so I can only assume that you are indeed dumb.
You say they arent drag cars, well thats your opinion, but know that many many owners out here would be willing to show you how wrong you are and how stupid of you it is to think that. Then, you say we should wait for some track testing, which shows youre either too slow or too confused to check the link provided and see that track testing was in fact done, albeit by probably the worst car rag available, on both the M3 and the 335. Finally, the results of the TRACK TESTING show, once again, that the 335 can hang with the M3.
If you want to play like the overgrown bird and bury your head in the sand and go into denial about it, its all good. Just makes YOU look like the dumb one.
08-11-2006, 02:34 PM
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BMW's slogan - the ultimate driving machine. NOT - the ultimate drag machine.
What track did they take the cars too? because there is no mention of anything but straight lines in the link.
And you know of many owners of what that can show me BMW's are drag machines? Believe me, I know all about the M3 and what it can do
can you drag race cars in it, sure. But it was built more for track than drag strip. I don't know how anyone could argue that.
What track did they take the cars too? because there is no mention of anything but straight lines in the link.
And you know of many owners of what that can show me BMW's are drag machines? Believe me, I know all about the M3 and what it can do
can you drag race cars in it, sure. But it was built more for track than drag strip. I don't know how anyone could argue that.
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08-11-2006, 02:43 PM
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It should be pretty easy to just tell me the race track they went and tested at, shouldn't it? I mean if it's in the link. I don't see it. I see drag times, and braking times. That's it. Where's the race track you say they went to?
08-11-2006, 03:00 PM
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I'll defend my position, my car, or anything else when I know or feel Im right. Just like Ive seen you jump into attack mode in honda threads. Guess that makes you a honda fanboi huh.