Cayman S or Z4 M coup
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Originally Posted by Rx8bydocabe
if you had the money, which one would you chose? and why?
i'm still not sure. part of me says the only porsche to buy is the 911, but that cayman is tempting.
also, doesn't the Z4 M coup outperform the Cayman?
i'm still not sure. part of me says the only porsche to buy is the 911, but that cayman is tempting.
also, doesn't the Z4 M coup outperform the Cayman?
I'm seriously thinking of getting the Cayman S within the next 3-4 years. The harder choice is vs. a 911 or Vette Z06. And, I'm still waiting to see what the new GT-R will really be like, the next Supra and the next RX-whatever.
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I like its sharp styling. It would also be a very unique bird down here (the closest Porsche dealer is over 200 miles away). When I test drove it, honestly it blew me away. To quote someone from another board, "I know why they called it the Cayman, because while I was driving it I "cayman" my pants."
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I like the Cayman as a car. By itself it's a great performer, handles like nothing I've seen, and is pretty affordable by Porsche standards. I test drove one and there's just something magic about it that I can't put my finger on. By the way whoever thinks a 911 is only 10 grand more is smoking something good. If you're familiar with Porsche at all, you'd know that you pay for every single option...NOTHING I mean NOTHING is standard...not even floor mats.
I dislike the Cayman at the same time though. It's like Clarkson said...it could have been so much better. It's almost like Porsche hit a home run by accident but is holding back because the 911 is the flagship, so it's almost like they won't allow the Cayman to be what it can and should be.
But at the same time lemme ask you people this. Why do you love the 911 so much? Sure, it's one of the best feeling sports cars in the world and nothing can really touch the finesse of the car...but look. It doesn't have as much power as a top of the line Corvette, and it doesn't have the exotic looks as some of its competitors. If anything the 911 is an iconoclast's car. A car that people buy because they're fans of the brand and its heritage. Sorta like....an RX-8?
But when you forget all the fluff and you compare the Cayman to the 911, I think it's a sign of a change at Porsche. The 911 just might be overthrowned by a sports car from a totally objective perspective, makes more sense, on paper and on the road.
I love 911's myself...I especially love GT2 and GT3's, but I think the Cayman might be the future of Porsche. Oh yeah...I'd definitely choose the Cayman over the Z4 M coupe. Probably for most of the same reasons why I'd choose the Boxster/ Boxster S over any BMW roadster. I doubt BMW will be able to achieve the same feel, although it's going to be an impressive car.
I dislike the Cayman at the same time though. It's like Clarkson said...it could have been so much better. It's almost like Porsche hit a home run by accident but is holding back because the 911 is the flagship, so it's almost like they won't allow the Cayman to be what it can and should be.
But at the same time lemme ask you people this. Why do you love the 911 so much? Sure, it's one of the best feeling sports cars in the world and nothing can really touch the finesse of the car...but look. It doesn't have as much power as a top of the line Corvette, and it doesn't have the exotic looks as some of its competitors. If anything the 911 is an iconoclast's car. A car that people buy because they're fans of the brand and its heritage. Sorta like....an RX-8?
But when you forget all the fluff and you compare the Cayman to the 911, I think it's a sign of a change at Porsche. The 911 just might be overthrowned by a sports car from a totally objective perspective, makes more sense, on paper and on the road.
I love 911's myself...I especially love GT2 and GT3's, but I think the Cayman might be the future of Porsche. Oh yeah...I'd definitely choose the Cayman over the Z4 M coupe. Probably for most of the same reasons why I'd choose the Boxster/ Boxster S over any BMW roadster. I doubt BMW will be able to achieve the same feel, although it's going to be an impressive car.
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Originally Posted by shaolin
By the way whoever thinks a 911 is only 10 grand more is smoking something good.
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we just got the new M Roadster a couple days ago. it's not really that exciting...atleast to me it isn't. still looks like a regular Z4 except a small bulge in the aluminum hood, M badge on the side fenders and rear, cross-drilled brakes, 18" wheels, the S54 motor from the E46 M3, and the signature quad-tipped exhaust. interior is still the same, just minor details in the finish and intrument cluster. i haven't got to test drive one yet, but for MSRP price of around $60k....i wouldn't get it. we'll probably mark it up to around $65-70k. i like the Z4 since it feels similar to the S2000...but i don't think the M Roadster will do very well. just like the E36 M Roadster, it's not that appealing. i'd wait and see how the M Coupe does.
i don't know **** about porsche, so my fingers point to BMW.
i don't know **** about porsche, so my fingers point to BMW.
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
I think you need to get your eyes checked man.
And Why buy porsche?
mid engine
And Why buy porsche?
mid engine
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Originally Posted by Ike
Not why buy a Porsche, why buy a Cayman S. The Boxster S is virtually its equal in performance, you can have top down fun, and save thousands.
I hope they create a GTS version soon!
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Originally Posted by MazdaspeedFeras
right but in the Z4 M its tuned to exactly 330HP according to the published figures.
http://www.tuningnews.net/news/05102...m-roadster.php
seems to be different numbers from different sources
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Originally Posted by snizzle
The very fact that I would choose the Cayman (a slower car) over the Z4 does fit as an RX8 owner.
My comment was regarding Cayman over 911. Which would you prefer if the extra $10K was not an issue?
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Originally Posted by bascho
My comment was regarding Cayman over 911. Which would you prefer if the extra $10K was not an issue?
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Originally Posted by bascho
I would chose a Porsche over a BMW anyday of the week. Even though I don't really like the look of the Cayman. Yes, it's a great performer......but is that the reason you RX8 owners would want it? That seems to smack in the face of the EVO/STI vs RX8 debate. Looks vs performance. I wouldn't care if the Cayman was waaay faster around Nurenburgring then the 911......the 911 is a waaaay better looking car.
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Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
But the Z06 is hard to ignore as the bang for the buck thoroughbred.
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I would never pick the caymen over a carrera. i have to agree w/clarksons review in top gear, 'why buy a car that could be so much better but is held back on purpose so it doesnt surpass the 911'
whoever posted the pics of the two cars, your not alone i cant tell the difference between them (boxster also) with out seeing the *** of it
whoever posted the pics of the two cars, your not alone i cant tell the difference between them (boxster also) with out seeing the *** of it
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Originally Posted by buzzardsluck
I would never pick the caymen over a carrera. i have to agree w/clarksons review in top gear, 'why buy a car that could be so much better but is held back on purpose so it doesnt surpass the 911'
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I have a cayman s on order and it rides and drives a hell of a lot better than the boxster. Definitely stiffer than the boxster and has better balance than the 911 with the mid engine. I got the cayman because i've always wanted a porsche and i love the midengine platform. If you want a performance bargain i would say the new z06 but good luck getting one. I talked to a local dealer and they said 12-18 months and they're selling for 10-15k over msrp.I got the cayman becasue its fun, looks good, and is built with quality.
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I don't understand the mentality of the Cayman being 'held back'. It has already proven to beat the 911's times at Nurerburgring.......what else do you want from the Cayman? The 911 is arguably the pinnacle of auto-x racing capabilities and that's why every other car in professional auto-x racing is a 911. For the Cayman to come out and perform at that level and in some instances exceed that level........that is ******* impressive IMO. Is horsepower the issue?? If so then some of you need to read up on a thing called balance. More power does not mean more speed. It's a balancing act between many systems working together to make speed. The Cayman is a success IMO.....but I would chose a 911 because that is my favorite car of all time. I would love to have a 2004 911 Turbo Cabriolet.