The Chinese have a better American car than we do!
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Originally Posted by Razz1
Buick has never been crap and will always be a top line car.
When American cars had bad quality, Buick was the only one that didn't have a problem.
If you don't believe me, you don't know cars.
When American cars had bad quality, Buick was the only one that didn't have a problem.
If you don't believe me, you don't know cars.
However, the design and driving dynamics of their cars to not match the quality of manufacturing.
They are boring and bland and perfect for old timers who want a soft car.
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Originally Posted by CarAndDriver
I agree that Buick quality seems to be consistent and high quality.
However, the design and driving dynamics of their cars to not match the quality of manufacturing.
They are boring and bland and perfect for old timers who want a soft car.
However, the design and driving dynamics of their cars to not match the quality of manufacturing.
They are boring and bland and perfect for old timers who want a soft car.
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^^^Not really, because look how ingrained the anti-Buick sentiment already is in this thread. Most people wouldn't even bother to take a test drive.
There is hope, of course. Look what they have done with Caddillac! 10 years ago they were a joke, and now they're a powerhouse. Still not topping the "cool" list for most folks, but a heck of a lot better than they were. They took the chance and delivered with quality product.
GM pays about $2400 on every car they make for "Legacy" costs, which are the benefits and pensions for former employees. They make how many cars every year? And that is how much $$$? Well, seeing as they produce over 3 million cars annually, that's 7.2 Billion+. That's just on retirees... Of course, there are 2.5 retirees supported for every active GM employee today...
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There is hope, of course. Look what they have done with Caddillac! 10 years ago they were a joke, and now they're a powerhouse. Still not topping the "cool" list for most folks, but a heck of a lot better than they were. They took the chance and delivered with quality product.
GM pays about $2400 on every car they make for "Legacy" costs, which are the benefits and pensions for former employees. They make how many cars every year? And that is how much $$$? Well, seeing as they produce over 3 million cars annually, that's 7.2 Billion+. That's just on retirees... Of course, there are 2.5 retirees supported for every active GM employee today...
Production Totals
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Originally Posted by MazdaMonkey
Exactly, that is why Buick stated last year that their goal was to copy Lexus throughout its lineup. Lexus is getting better now, but until recently no one had a more boring line of luxury cars. But hey, Lexus sells TONS of cars because old guys who like a boring, reliable, and comfortable car love them.
Buick has a long way to go to emulate Lexus in anything other than manufacturing quality.
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^^^Not really, because look how ingrained the anti-Buick sentiment already is in this thread. Most people wouldn't even bother to take a test drive.
There is hope, of course. Look what they have done with Caddillac! 10 years ago they were a joke, and now they're a powerhouse. Still not topping the "cool" list for most folks, but a heck of a lot better than they were. They took the chance and delivered with quality product.
GM pays about $2400 on every car they make for "Legacy" costs, which are the benefits and pensions for former employees. They make how many cars every year? And that is how much $$$? Well, seeing as they produce over 3 million cars annually, that's 7.2 Billion+. That's just on retirees... Of course, there are 2.5 retirees supported for every active GM employee today...
Production Totals
There is hope, of course. Look what they have done with Caddillac! 10 years ago they were a joke, and now they're a powerhouse. Still not topping the "cool" list for most folks, but a heck of a lot better than they were. They took the chance and delivered with quality product.
GM pays about $2400 on every car they make for "Legacy" costs, which are the benefits and pensions for former employees. They make how many cars every year? And that is how much $$$? Well, seeing as they produce over 3 million cars annually, that's 7.2 Billion+. That's just on retirees... Of course, there are 2.5 retirees supported for every active GM employee today...
Production Totals
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Originally Posted by Carrera26
You'd have a hard time making a case to most Americans under the age of 50 for buying a new Buick. The current median age of Buick owners is 74!
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People saying that the image will work against the car are forgetting advertising. All you'd need it to give some cars to some Rap Stars and custom shops, have 'em bling the crap out of it and have them show the car(s) in their video's and magazines. After that they'll sell like hotcakes, can you all honestly say that the Escalades and Hummers would of sold as well as they did if not for the odd obesssion by Rap starts about these vehicles? Trust me if they hyped the car correctly you'd be seeing alot of those Buicks sold to 20 sumthings in no time flat.
By the way I was thinking of buying a Buick Lacross SXT (V6 model) before buying the 8 because I had it as a rental car. The car had alot of ***** if you will for a FWD car and the comfort was very surprisingly good. That and the XM radio was a bonus also.
By the way I was thinking of buying a Buick Lacross SXT (V6 model) before buying the 8 because I had it as a rental car. The car had alot of ***** if you will for a FWD car and the comfort was very surprisingly good. That and the XM radio was a bonus also.
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Originally Posted by Razz1
Buick has never been crap and will always be a top line car.
When American cars had bad quality, Buick was the only one that didn't have a problem.
If you don't believe me, you don't know cars.
When American cars had bad quality, Buick was the only one that didn't have a problem.
If you don't believe me, you don't know cars.
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Originally Posted by Carrera26
You'd have a hard time making a case to most Americans under the age of 50 for buying a new Buick. The current median age of Buick owners is 74!
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Pontiac went through that Plastic is King phase for so long with the atrocious interiors. Buick tried the best with what it was given at the time.
The current Buick interiors are better, but the buttons are all too small.
The current Buick interiors are better, but the buttons are all too small.
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Originally Posted by tajabaho1
when I see buicks, I quickly dive away in fear the grandma will run me off the road.
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