Chrysler has another hit on it's hands in the new 300c
06-25-2004, 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by jtimbck2
I really hate the 300C. In my opinion, it's one of the ugliest cars released in recent memory.
I really hate the 300C. In my opinion, it's one of the ugliest cars released in recent memory.
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06-26-2004, 01:13 PM
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I jusy saw a Malibu MAXX yesterday on the road, now that thing is freaking hideous, and I'm usually not one to be overly critical of looks. We're talking Pontiac Aztec ugly, what the hell were the Chevy designers thinking with that one.
I jusy saw a Malibu MAXX yesterday on the road, now that thing is freaking hideous, and I'm usually not one to be overly critical of looks. We're talking Pontiac Aztec ugly, what the hell were the Chevy designers thinking with that one.
From this pic, I don't think it's any worse than a Subaru
06-26-2004, 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by JasonHamilton
Never heard of a MAXX until you mentioned it.
From this pic, I don't think it's any worse than a Subaru
Never heard of a MAXX until you mentioned it.
From this pic, I don't think it's any worse than a Subaru
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06-26-2004, 01:27 PM
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From a design stand-point , Chevy improved itself on what it used to be a PLAIN vanilla Malibu. HOwever, I think its still far from Subaru...far far from it. Loos at Subaru again, they have changed a lot in details -which is where they were missing it before. The only Subi that still looks odd to me is the Baja.
From a design stand-point , Chevy improved itself on what it used to be a PLAIN vanilla Malibu. HOwever, I think its still far from Subaru...far far from it. Loos at Subaru again, they have changed a lot in details -which is where they were missing it before. The only Subi that still looks odd to me is the Baja.
The rear looks like it's missing something though.
06-26-2004, 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by JasonHamilton
I wasn't trying to say it was a subaru, what I was saying was it looked similar to a subaru from outside - it's not eye catching, but it's not anywhere close to Aztec ugly either.
The rear looks like it's missing something though.
I wasn't trying to say it was a subaru, what I was saying was it looked similar to a subaru from outside - it's not eye catching, but it's not anywhere close to Aztec ugly either.
The rear looks like it's missing something though.
06-28-2004, 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
That pic is VERY deceiving, it actually looks kind of nice in that pic, see one in person and you'll know what I mean.
That pic is VERY deceiving, it actually looks kind of nice in that pic, see one in person and you'll know what I mean.
06-28-2004, 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by mikeb
I've seen more of those in the last month than rx8's on the road in the last year, looks like a wannabe BENTLEY to me
I've seen more of those in the last month than rx8's on the road in the last year, looks like a wannabe BENTLEY to me
06-28-2004, 04:22 PM
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My wife and I were having a conversation about the 300 yesterday. I commented on how many I've seen since its launch as compared to the RX-8.
We just got back from the shore, and during the whole trip, other than my own 8, I saw only three others. One on the way to the shore, and two coming back. During that same trip, I saw more than a dozen 300s (and three Chevy SSRs). Two of my neighbors just bought 300s. Pretty soon I'm going to be surrounded.
Don't get me wrong, I dig the look of the 300. Kinda like something from Batman: The Animated Series. But they are beginning to pop-up everywhere.
I still only see a couple of 8s a week, which makes it still unique in my book. The 300 not so much.
We just got back from the shore, and during the whole trip, other than my own 8, I saw only three others. One on the way to the shore, and two coming back. During that same trip, I saw more than a dozen 300s (and three Chevy SSRs). Two of my neighbors just bought 300s. Pretty soon I'm going to be surrounded.
Don't get me wrong, I dig the look of the 300. Kinda like something from Batman: The Animated Series. But they are beginning to pop-up everywhere.
I still only see a couple of 8s a week, which makes it still unique in my book. The 300 not so much.
06-28-2004, 04:26 PM
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I think it's great that we're starting to see cars of all types looking good. They don't have to be a high end sports car to have a unique and stylish design.
While there are failures that make me want to puke (Aztec), I think most are successful.
While there are failures that make me want to puke (Aztec), I think most are successful.
06-28-2004, 04:49 PM
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I like the 300C. a fully loaded hemi will run about $36,000. Motor Trend timed it at 5.6 sec from 0-60. and said it handled surprisingly well for such a heavy (4000 lb) car. They list it as a luxury sedan but maybe it should be listed as a sports sedan since it outperforms most. As for reliability only time will tell but it has a lot of Mercedes parts and design influence put into it.
06-28-2004, 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by JimW
As for reliability only time will tell but it has a lot of Mercedes parts and design influence put into it.
As for reliability only time will tell but it has a lot of Mercedes parts and design influence put into it.
06-28-2004, 11:10 PM
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The thing is, even the less reliable cars on the market today are pretty damn reliable compared to 10 or 15 years ago. It seems to get something really unreliable nowadays you almost have to go out of your way to do so. Buying used cars is a whole other story since it seems the slightly less reliable vehicles on the road really start to show the problems as they inch towards 100k miles.
My dad had an interpid for about 80k miles it was pretty damn reliable to that point, but when he traded it in it was going to need a decent amount of work on the A/C and a few other minor problems.
My dad had an interpid for about 80k miles it was pretty damn reliable to that point, but when he traded it in it was going to need a decent amount of work on the A/C and a few other minor problems.
06-28-2004, 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
The thing is, even the less reliable cars on the market today are pretty damn reliable compared to 10 or 15 years ago. It seems to get something really unreliable nowadays you almost have to go out of your way to do so.
The thing is, even the less reliable cars on the market today are pretty damn reliable compared to 10 or 15 years ago. It seems to get something really unreliable nowadays you almost have to go out of your way to do so.
06-28-2004, 11:34 PM
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VW was on such a roll, it's amazing how much they have slipped in terms of sales and overall quality ratings.
In the first graph is it safe to assume Mazda is grouped with Ford?
In the first graph is it safe to assume Mazda is grouped with Ford?
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Chrsyler is the only american company that has shown any signs of life as far as styling and raw power. While I may not think their car designs are beautiful, at least they are refreshing in a world of recycled GM crap and plastic cladding. As far as chrysler quality goes, I wouldn't say its anything great but I would still put them light years ahead of GM and Ford for the most part.
I also think your comment about Chrysler's "styling and raw power" is a bit oversimplified. I'll take the Ford GT over any car out there, period. Most people love the styling and power available in the Corvette and new Mustang as well. And just wait for the next Cobra... then we'll talk about raw power.
It is the opinion of many people in the auto industry that Chrysler is playing a risky game by putting out very bold vehicles in terms of styling, but making very few engineering improvements. These are the same old Chryslers underneath their new flashy skins. It will be interesting to see what happens.
