Clarkson on the Mazdaspeed 6 (MPS)
05-22-2006, 03:55 PM
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Clarkson on the Mazdaspeed 6 (MPS)
Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson on the new Mazda 6 MPS.
"World-class athlete dressed as a salesman"
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/art...188278,00.html
"World-class athlete dressed as a salesman"
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/art...188278,00.html
05-22-2006, 05:37 PM
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I guess his model wasnt cutting boost at 4500rpms like all the other ones. Further, I'm surprised he didnt pick on the 100:0 "AWD" system
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05-22-2006, 09:21 PM
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No... the non-USDM market cars come with less power (read less boost) and haven't been having the same issues it seems. The engine is also used in the JDM MPV and the CX-7 as we all know. It's also found a home in the Mazdaspeed 3. It'll probably make its way into a Mazdaspeed MX-5 too.
Anyway, these lower hp tuning of the engine seem to have less (or none) issues with 91 vs 93 octane and pulling boost. It's probably because of Mazda stupidly upping the boost on a small turbo with the same intercooler to squeeze out more power for the US market. Sounds like bad engineering to me.
Anyway, these lower hp tuning of the engine seem to have less (or none) issues with 91 vs 93 octane and pulling boost. It's probably because of Mazda stupidly upping the boost on a small turbo with the same intercooler to squeeze out more power for the US market. Sounds like bad engineering to me.
05-22-2006, 09:53 PM
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holy crap. I read the entire first page and all I got out of it was something about bells and sandwiches.
He doesn't even start to talk about the car till halfway down page 2, and even then he's still talking about food.
He doesn't even start to talk about the car till halfway down page 2, and even then he's still talking about food.
05-22-2006, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by takahashi
Me waiting MPS 3...
Sounds good from Clarkson's point of view
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I heard Fifth gear is doing a review on MPS6 and MPS3.
Sounds good from Clarkson's point of view
.I heard Fifth gear is doing a review on MPS6 and MPS3.
05-22-2006, 10:11 PM
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That review was terribly boring to me. Maybe I'm too young or simply not british enough, but I had no idea what the hell he was talking about throughout most of that review.
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I agree -- it's a known fact the british can be long winded and boring with the writing, I read one paragraph after another thinking "okay wtf is he talking about maybe the next one will actually be about the Mazda... nope.
I like Clarkson for the most part - but to write 9 paragraphs of dribble and 2about the car is retarded. For this reason thats why I will only WATCH him and not read him.
I like Clarkson for the most part - but to write 9 paragraphs of dribble and 2about the car is retarded. For this reason thats why I will only WATCH him and not read him.
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05-22-2006, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhawb
That review was terribly boring to me. Maybe I'm too young or simply not british enough, but I had no idea what the hell he was talking about throughout most of that review.
"It'll probably make its way into a Mazdaspeed MX-5 too."
280ft/lbs in some FWD hatch... ummm...
280 ft/lbs in a miata... ummm...
159 ft/lbs in the 8?..ummm...
Whats the problem mazda?
While I completely understand that the power level in the 8 is to maintain balance, that doesn't mean shyt if mazda doesn't make any money. Just becuase we get it doesn't mean anyone else does.
05-23-2006, 11:57 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, britain also has significantly better octane gasoline then the states as well. Most of the problems in the states are coming from our **** poor gas. Even our 94 octane is pretty lame compared to the aussie's BP Ultimate 98 pwnstar extreme.
05-23-2006, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by crossbow
If I'm not mistaken, britain also has significantly better octane gasoline then the states as well. Most of the problems in the states are coming from our **** poor gas. Even our 94 octane is pretty lame compared to the aussie's BP Ultimate 98 pwnstar extreme.
05-23-2006, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Xantium
If you've ever watched top gear you'd understand.
05-23-2006, 04:24 PM
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nice write up .. yeah we dont give a rats *** about itv or blair .. but we all know the 6 chassy looks like a too common and inconspicuous grocery getter .. but so what id rather have a leaner price tag than fake wood or chrome ***** .. with still the same monster kick
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Originally Posted by TODreamer
I guess his model wasnt cutting boost at 4500rpms like all the other ones. Further, I'm surprised he didnt pick on the 100:0 "AWD" system
05-23-2006, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8-79
Maybe cause "all other ones" dont and cause there's nothing to pick on.
05-24-2006, 04:00 AM
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I drove one for a day and hated it. The one standout dislike??? Very poor engine braking when changing down gears......you had to drop three cogs to slow it down.
Maybe this is a four cylinder turbo trait, I dunno....but I didn't like it one bit. I love the RX-8 manual gearbox and the Renesis' deceleration characteristics on a closed throttle......I barely use the brakes when I'm tooling about town. No way I'd swap an RX-8 for a turbo Mazda 6.
Maybe this is a four cylinder turbo trait, I dunno....but I didn't like it one bit. I love the RX-8 manual gearbox and the Renesis' deceleration characteristics on a closed throttle......I barely use the brakes when I'm tooling about town. No way I'd swap an RX-8 for a turbo Mazda 6.
05-24-2006, 05:01 AM
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Very well put Gomez, I hadn't thought of that before much but I rarely use my brakes either. 
The MS six does fill a niche, for those that need more room (5th passenger), want performance without the look. I was going to wait for the MS 6 back in '04 but fell in love with the 8, glad I did, glad I did.
Truthfully I expected a bit more out of it... let down no... it still has potential for upgrading, but it is a heavy car.
The MS six does fill a niche, for those that need more room (5th passenger), want performance without the look. I was going to wait for the MS 6 back in '04 but fell in love with the 8, glad I did, glad I did.
Truthfully I expected a bit more out of it... let down no... it still has potential for upgrading, but it is a heavy car.
05-24-2006, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by murix
My summary and interpretation of what Clarkson was trying to say. Mazda is a boring brand that builds exciting cars.
Yeah, that's pretty much the case.
05-29-2006, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mysql101
holy crap. I read the entire first page and all I got out of it was something about bells and sandwiches.
He doesn't even start to talk about the car till halfway down page 2, and even then he's still talking about food.
He doesn't even start to talk about the car till halfway down page 2, and even then he's still talking about food.
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