4Flyer

Garage 419 is a reputable e-zine that covers multiple aspects of the automotive industry, not a youtuber with free time making a case on a web blog.

zoom44

well if you really want a cobalt ss -my family would have to be in jeapordy to force me into one- you better get it quick

https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/gm-disbands-hi-performance-vehicle-group-167214/

mikefrombarrie

Why all the hate for the Cobalt SS? It's a cheap economy car getting 30+mpg with a little kick and decent handling. Sure the wing is ugly, but I guess it has to serve some purpose if the car goes 160+ mph

And the news that GM is going to cancel the SS and V line is very sad, looks like GM is going to give the market what they want, Their going to improve the fit and finish and decrese the performance. Just like Toyota is doing right now and their selling like crazy??

zoom44

Cant stand it - my personal opinion. dont like the looks and having driven one, heard the wing flapping at speed.

mikefrombarrie

Did you drive the 2008+? What was your impression when you drove the car?

jones75254

iTrader: (2)

Correction: It has a LOT of kick and VERY GOOD handling. Dont downplay it man, its a little beast in the performance department. Yea its not great lookin and is a bit bland inside and out, but it speaks for itself on the road and track. Personally, i like it for what it is. I dont think its the kind of car i would want as my only car, thats for sure, but as a 2nd or 3rd car it would be fun.

zoom44

no it was a 2006. i agree with what jones just said except for the like what it is and 2nd or 3rd car bit. i find many other cars i would have as a 2nd or 3rd ahead of this.

Lithium Lotus

Coupe > Wagon

4Flyer

Cars are very sensative to a reputation established by the market that demands them. Cars are NEVER marketed to a very specific audience. (Notable exception is Scion which is very successful but only with lots of research) Take the Volkswagon Beatle for instance. Nothing about that car's ad campaign ringed of chic car. Yet the reputation was so strong with it VW had no choice but to market it that direction when men absolutely refused to buy them.

The Cobalt SS is similar in that it has a reputation for a car owned by ghetto poor kids who want something fast without quality or concern. You may not believe this about the car, but the reputation is so strong, you don't want to be associated with that crowd of people by what you drive. You choice in cars is heavily influenced by the reputation it will earn you ammong your peers. The reputation of a car is generally decided by the majority of the buyers in it's first year of release. The RX-8 was bought up by techy gurus in there early to middle adult hood. That was the direction the car aimed for after that.

mikefrombarrie

Take the 2008+ SS for a drive, its completely different!

Poster6

Agreed. I wish car companies would stop trying to steer me towards a freakn wagon. Goes 0-60 in 5 seconds? Its a wagon??? No thanks.

Lithium Lotus

I don't know many people from the ghetto that want a Cobalt. I always see them driving older Cadillac's and Buick's. It may just be the area I'm in [I'm about 20 miles away from the Cobalt plant in Lordstown, OH], but I see every type of person driving a Cobalt. Although, I did see a really cute brunette driving a silver RX8 the other day.

And with the current economy, lower priced cars are much more appealing now then the higher end luxury cars.

Last time I checked, I thought we bought cars because we liked them, not what other people think about them. If that was the case, everyone would be driving Corolla's and Camry's because CR likes them. I really couldn't give a damn about what other people thought about my car.

YaXMaNGTO

Did you buy it yet, mike?

9krpmrx8

iTrader: (46)

I was playing with a silver Cobalt SS on the highway (shorts 1-2 gear bursts) and I was totally dusted by more than a length each time. had it gone bit of a distance I would have been destroyed. I know there are many factors at play here and that the RX-8 is not a power straight line car but regardless it hurts to get owned by a pumped up entry level economy car. Just thought of this thread when it happened.

DefinitiveDetour

The replacement

Earl the Pearl

The above post shows why there will be no resale on the Cobalt. It will be long forgotten if and when the Cruze hits showrooms. It all comes down to buying something you will be happy with. But if resale is a consideration, you may want to reconsider.

I personally don't trust GM management due to their endless boneheaded decisions. I would rather spend the extra money on a speed 3 and have better resale and a model that is still being produced and supported by the manufacturer.

Poster6

If you want good quality....dont buy American. haha