Drifting Amuse S2k GT5 Style
10-26-2008, 09:12 PM
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Drifting GT5 Style
First off, how do you take good pics of screenshots taken from a HD tv. any how decided to take pics amuse s2k. i would of taken pics of the RX8, but its pretty boring car (meaning how long it takes for me to get to the turn). but then again, all the Japanese non tuner car are boring.
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10-27-2008, 07:40 AM
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well from age 16-21 i use to drift every weekend before i moved to the US. learned drifting in my 2nd car AE86 trueno (first car was a FF Toyota Starlet TUrbo) then 91 FC for the last 3 years before i moved to the States. btw i lived in okinawa japan for 17 years. so i guess to answer your question, yep
im 32 now
im 32 now
10-27-2008, 09:32 AM
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For xdeed and others who want to learn to drift in GT5p.
These are instructions for controller only. i think alof of us here probably do not have G25 steering wheel or a wheel.
First you want a RWD car that you feel comfortable with. A car that feel has the best handling. RX8 would be a good car , but since this is controller only instructions RX8 is a bad choice.
Reason is, with out being able to let foot it, or heel and toe, the rx8 either hits the rev limiter or no power due to no torque. Which leaves you with a face. But if someone has a G25 wheel send me a pm, ill teach you how to drift in the RX8.
So my car of choice will be the S2k Turbo. you have power in every gear. which leaves a big
face . Reason why i like S2k is because i use cockpit view. Other views to me, give you a non accurate view of where your nose is pointing to and where the steering wheels position is at.. and since i learned drifting in a righthand side car, the i dont feel awkward .
firs thing is car set up. so ill get the obvious out of the way. Turn off TC, ABS, have professional mode on, and i think that is it. if there is something in the TC, ABS menu screen that i missing, let me know. also use manual shift.
once that is out of the way, we go to go tire set up.
if you want to get learn drifting in this game fast, my only advice is to start with the worse tires possiable (since drifting in this game requires you to have no grip tires at all) .
so tire set up of choice for this car is N3 or N2 on the front and N1 or N2 on the back. if you go with N2 on the back make the front tires N3. Better grip tires are always on the front (for steering the car purposes). I use n1 on both front and back if im using steering wheel.
Now with this set up, you will get annoyed pretty fast. because in your mind, the way you drive is like how would drive with a car with lots of grip (not sure if that makes any sense). Best example is, say for instance the road is wet, and you are coming to a right turn. so you turn right, but only to find out your car is still going straight. so you need to learn how to throw the weight to your back a to cause grip to the rear or front depends on the situation also to get the rear to hang out. i wont get into details in that, because its very hard to explain . its something you must learn on your own.
the style i use alot is Feinting (like the the 1-4 pics) because 1. its the easiest , 2 its the style i use d alot before moving the states when i was drifiting alot. but its also the hardest if you dotn understand how to throw weight around.
so ill just teach you the basic. when coming in the turn, you can either do Hard braking (before making a turn to throw the weight to the front then gas it hard to throw it back ) or ebraking (when you about to tmake the turn).
I prefer ebraking for a beginner , so ill teach you the ebrakeing style instead. When i come to a turn i would let off the gas and pull the ebrake but dont hold the ebrake long if your turning only hold for half a sec. its pretty much tap the ebrake (you want ot do this when the angle correctly). but if you pull the ebrake before turning then hold long till you get the right angle then let off the ebrake . once you are in the right angle, counter steer and gas it but dotn gas it to much, because gasing it to much will cause you to spin (duh).
so what i do is gas it , let off, and gas it again then i just repeat it ( ). if its on tight turns, just gas it and once you feel that your car is about to go off the track ( in this sitituaon is use Left braking or heel and toe or G25 steering wheel,or i would just clutch kick alot,if you have G25 steering wheel), let off the gas pull tap the ebrake some, then gas it again to put traction back to the rear. once you learn that, its off the S turns.
btw i left out the which gears to be in, because you will be shifiting up and down alot. so its hard to explain. you just have to learn to get really fast at shifting up and down. its something you must learn on your own.
on S turn would do alot of clutch kicking to with Steering wheel to intiate the 2nd turn. but contoller what yuo want to do is, let off the gas . so say for instance if the turn is a right, you would start drifting like how i explain above, but right before you get to the 2nd turn let of the gas and turn you car to left and then gas it with a counter steering, then you just drift like how explain above.
reason of letting off the gas before you start the 2nd turn is, you dont want to put to much speed inbetween the turns. because you will find your self in the grass etc.
any how, gl and you will be annoyed at first, but once you learn how to throw the weight around , experience will be enjoyable. btw the phyics in tihs game is almost to real.
These are instructions for controller only. i think alof of us here probably do not have G25 steering wheel or a wheel.
First you want a RWD car that you feel comfortable with. A car that feel has the best handling. RX8 would be a good car , but since this is controller only instructions RX8 is a bad choice.
Reason is, with out being able to let foot it, or heel and toe, the rx8 either hits the rev limiter or no power due to no torque. Which leaves you with a
face. But if someone has a G25 wheel send me a pm, ill teach you how to drift in the RX8. So my car of choice will be the S2k Turbo. you have power in every gear. which leaves a big
face . Reason why i like S2k is because i use cockpit view. Other views to me, give you a non accurate view of where your nose is pointing to and where the steering wheels position is at.. and since i learned drifting in a righthand side car, the i dont feel awkward . firs thing is car set up. so ill get the obvious out of the way. Turn off TC, ABS, have professional mode on, and i think that is it. if there is something in the TC, ABS menu screen that i missing, let me know. also use manual shift.
once that is out of the way, we go to go tire set up.
if you want to get learn drifting in this game fast, my only advice is to start with the worse tires possiable (since drifting in this game requires you to have no grip tires at all) .
so tire set up of choice for this car is N3 or N2 on the front and N1 or N2 on the back. if you go with N2 on the back make the front tires N3. Better grip tires are always on the front (for steering the car purposes). I use n1 on both front and back if im using steering wheel.
Now with this set up, you will get annoyed pretty fast. because in your mind, the way you drive is like how would drive with a car with lots of grip (not sure if that makes any sense). Best example is, say for instance the road is wet, and you are coming to a right turn. so you turn right, but only to find out your car is still going straight. so you need to learn how to throw the weight to your back a to cause grip to the rear or front depends on the situation also to get the rear to hang out. i wont get into details in that, because its very hard to explain . its something you must learn on your own.
the style i use alot is Feinting (like the the 1-4 pics) because 1. its the easiest , 2 its the style i use d alot before moving the states when i was drifiting alot. but its also the hardest if you dotn understand how to throw weight around.
so ill just teach you the basic. when coming in the turn, you can either do Hard braking (before making a turn to throw the weight to the front then gas it hard to throw it back ) or ebraking (when you about to tmake the turn).
I prefer ebraking for a beginner , so ill teach you the ebrakeing style instead. When i come to a turn i would let off the gas and pull the ebrake but dont hold the ebrake long if your turning only hold for half a sec. its pretty much tap the ebrake (you want ot do this when the angle correctly). but if you pull the ebrake before turning then hold long till you get the right angle then let off the ebrake . once you are in the right angle, counter steer and gas it but dotn gas it to much, because gasing it to much will cause you to spin (duh).
so what i do is gas it , let off, and gas it again then i just repeat it ( ). if its on tight turns, just gas it and once you feel that your car is about to go off the track ( in this sitituaon is use Left braking or heel and toe or G25 steering wheel,or i would just clutch kick alot,if you have G25 steering wheel), let off the gas pull tap the ebrake some, then gas it again to put traction back to the rear. once you learn that, its off the S turns.
btw i left out the which gears to be in, because you will be shifiting up and down alot. so its hard to explain. you just have to learn to get really fast at shifting up and down. its something you must learn on your own.
on S turn would do alot of clutch kicking to with Steering wheel to intiate the 2nd turn. but contoller what yuo want to do is, let off the gas . so say for instance if the turn is a right, you would start drifting like how i explain above, but right before you get to the 2nd turn let of the gas and turn you car to left and then gas it with a counter steering, then you just drift like how explain above.
reason of letting off the gas before you start the 2nd turn is, you dont want to put to much speed inbetween the turns. because you will find your self in the grass etc.
any how, gl and you will be annoyed at first, but once you learn how to throw the weight around , experience will be enjoyable. btw the phyics in tihs game is almost to real.
Last edited by alfy28; 10-27-2008 at 10:35 AM.
10-27-2008, 09:41 AM
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If you can drift in GT5P, my guess is you won't be too shabby with the real thing. In fact, the g-forces will communicate with you better in real life.
I think GT5P is a nice safe environment to get wet before one goes to drift school for real.
I think GT5P is a nice safe environment to get wet before one goes to drift school for real.
10-27-2008, 10:07 AM
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^^ yah, if this game was out 14years ago, this would of been the way i would of learned. the phyics really mimics Real life really well. also , you wouldnt get yelled out by other very experienced drivers due to you spinning out in front of them, ruining their turn. follow the leader type of drifting. i remember for the 1st month , i would be hazukashi (embarrased) because of spinning out and having someone curse me out. then you have your clutch legs all trembling because your nervous. then when you spin out your panicing to get into reverse or waht ever to fix the mistakes you just caused lol, God i still have nightmares lol.
but you can only learn so much in a parking lot, before heading out to the mountain roads.
but you can only learn so much in a parking lot, before heading out to the mountain roads.
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10-27-2008, 11:29 AM
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Alfy, you are the man!!!
10-27-2008, 11:55 AM
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wiht steering wheel wih no clutch, it would work the same as controller. jsut easy to controll. i never just used regular wheel, so i am just guessing atm
. but the button such as ebrake is all what is important. but with any steering wheel, y ou can do feints alot easier. because your just throwing around the weight in back side to side. Like the in the first 2 pics, i just threw the weight to my right and flick it to the left to finish the turn by using controller. .
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10-27-2008, 03:31 PM
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Nice screens - you've got an extreme angle in those shots.
I need all the help I can get so next time I try it I will pay close attention to your instructions, Alfy. I did somewhat decent on my first go around (after probably 60 runs over 3 hours) but it's been so long it will probably be like starting over again and all I was using back then was the FD RX-7 and '60 Art Morrison Corvette. Proper weight transfer while keeping in the powerband at the right time seems to be the key. You can see how advanced GT really is when you try to drift (so like the real thing it's really hard for most people in the beginning). The developers didn't just transform the physics of the cars (to rotate extremely quick on a central axis) just for the drifting mode like most other games do. I really want a wheel to get the full effect, though.
I need all the help I can get so next time I try it I will pay close attention to your instructions, Alfy. I did somewhat decent on my first go around (after probably 60 runs over 3 hours) but it's been so long it will probably be like starting over again and all I was using back then was the FD RX-7 and '60 Art Morrison Corvette. Proper weight transfer while keeping in the powerband at the right time seems to be the key. You can see how advanced GT really is when you try to drift (so like the real thing it's really hard for most people in the beginning). The developers didn't just transform the physics of the cars (to rotate extremely quick on a central axis) just for the drifting mode like most other games do. I really want a wheel to get the full effect, though.
10-27-2008, 05:08 PM
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it depnds. if you have the wheel with clutch , its some what different. because you can put the clutch in then let off clutch with gas down and just throttle up and down, or left foot braking and heel and toe.
wiht steering wheel wih no clutch, it would work the same as controller. jsut easy to controll. i never just used regular wheel, so i am just guessing atm. but the button such as ebrake is all what is important. but with any steering wheel, y ou can do feints alot easier. because your just throwing around the weight in back side to side. Like the in the first 2 pics, i just threw the weight to my right and flick it to the left to finish the turn by using controller. .
wiht steering wheel wih no clutch, it would work the same as controller. jsut easy to controll. i never just used regular wheel, so i am just guessing atm
. but the button such as ebrake is all what is important. but with any steering wheel, y ou can do feints alot easier. because your just throwing around the weight in back side to side. Like the in the first 2 pics, i just threw the weight to my right and flick it to the left to finish the turn by using controller. .
10-27-2008, 05:33 PM
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i see that alot when i have friends over. what they do is, say for instance if the turn is a Right turn. they will turn and ebrake to the right, but they turned to much to the right that causes the back end to slide from under while to countersteer..
when i come into the a turn, i only turn the right a little (while pulling the ebrake, once your nose is aligned correctlytyou know you have car in the right angle) and countersteer but not to much where it cause me to flip the car left. 1st picture shows how the angle should be hwen you start to drift, and the 2nd one is mid way thru.
later on tnight ill take pics of cockpit view. might better to show you the angle
when i come into the a turn, i only turn the right a little (while pulling the ebrake, once your nose is aligned correctlytyou know you have car in the right angle) and countersteer but not to much where it cause me to flip the car left. 1st picture shows how the angle should be hwen you start to drift, and the 2nd one is mid way thru.
later on tnight ill take pics of cockpit view. might better to show you the angle
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10-27-2008, 11:37 PM
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I've tried again, and no luck. I even bought the s2k turbo.
So I will try and explain how I end up doing it. Brake way before the turn. Go slower than the target speed, turn in, and ease onto the gas. car starts to rotate, begin counter steer, maintain throttle, car keeps rotating, end up backwards, die in a fire.
The e-brake method seems so imprecise to me.
So I will try and explain how I end up doing it. Brake way before the turn. Go slower than the target speed, turn in, and ease onto the gas. car starts to rotate, begin counter steer, maintain throttle, car keeps rotating, end up backwards, die in a fire.
The e-brake method seems so imprecise to me.
10-28-2008, 09:54 AM
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I've tried again, and no luck. I even bought the s2k turbo.
So I will try and explain how I end up doing it. Brake way before the turn. Go slower than the target speed, turn in, and ease onto the gas. car starts to rotate, begin counter steer, maintain throttle, car keeps rotating, end up backwards, die in a fire.
The e-brake method seems so imprecise to me.
So I will try and explain how I end up doing it. Brake way before the turn. Go slower than the target speed, turn in, and ease onto the gas. car starts to rotate, begin counter steer, maintain throttle, car keeps rotating, end up backwards, die in a fire.
The e-brake method seems so imprecise to me.
but tonight ill show cockpit view, i have to show you the angle where you pull the ebrake at. i feel it may help alot .
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10-28-2008, 10:51 AM
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i am hoping more of us from this forum will be able to learn by the time when they add the private room for online. think it would be fun to have a our own private online drift session (god i sound like a nerd. )
10-28-2008, 11:06 AM
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lol thanks. but yah i hope they help. i think the part of it not working is, the person must find the right angle. once found those instrucions work. but i think i am going to redo the instructions with pics using cockpit view.
i am hoping more of us from this forum will be able to learn by the time when they add the private room for online. think it would be fun to have a our own private online drift session (god i sound like a nerd. )
i am hoping more of us from this forum will be able to learn by the time when they add the private room for online. think it would be fun to have a our own private online drift session (god i sound like a nerd. )
10-28-2008, 03:39 PM
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lol thanks. but yah i hope they help. i think the part of it not working is, the person must find the right angle. once found those instrucions work. but i think i am going to redo the instructions with pics using cockpit view.
i am hoping more of us from this forum will be able to learn by the time when they add the private room for online. think it would be fun to have a our own private online drift session (god i sound like a nerd. )
i am hoping more of us from this forum will be able to learn by the time when they add the private room for online. think it would be fun to have a our own private online drift session (god i sound like a nerd. )
10-28-2008, 11:38 PM
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this is not easy.
10-28-2008, 11:47 PM
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Ok i hope thise helps. in pic 1 this is how much you turn the wheel to the right and this is where you will pull the ebrake. you see that blue box above the steering wheel. that is probably the best part where you should pull the ebrake, but only pull very shortly.
btw use Highspeed reverse track
in this pic, this is how much you countersteer to the left to start off the drift (next pic shows how much the wheel is turned to left once every done correctly). once the car is angle like this you should start to feel the car kinda of gliding thru the turn, then you start gasing .
you may first start with a gas and the let off (depending on how fast you are going. if your going to fast you may spin, if not then just gas it). btw i am in 4th gear . me i usually start my drift on the straight a way by feinting
this part you are pretty much just gasing it all the way. if your car starts to feel like its about to spin, left the gas and gas it again once you feel that your car is not going to spin. i ususally switch to 5th gear mid way thru.
it allows me to not worry about hitting the rev limiter (once you hit rev limiter, you have no power which may cause you to drive straight until the guard rail) and also having alot of power in 4th gear may cause me to spin. so switching to 5th gear is enough to keep the wheels burning out..
but its going ot take practice. because you have to learn the angle and being able to keep it with out spinning out. i am sorry that i cant explain better. i guess its one of those thing you just have get the feel of .
btw use Highspeed reverse track
in this pic, this is how much you countersteer to the left to start off the drift (next pic shows how much the wheel is turned to left once every done correctly). once the car is angle like this you should start to feel the car kinda of gliding thru the turn, then you start gasing .
you may first start with a gas and the let off (depending on how fast you are going. if your going to fast you may spin, if not then just gas it). btw i am in 4th gear . me i usually start my drift on the straight a way by feinting
this part you are pretty much just gasing it all the way. if your car starts to feel like its about to spin, left the gas and gas it again once you feel that your car is not going to spin. i ususally switch to 5th gear mid way thru.
it allows me to not worry about hitting the rev limiter (once you hit rev limiter, you have no power which may cause you to drive straight until the guard rail) and also having alot of power in 4th gear may cause me to spin. so switching to 5th gear is enough to keep the wheels burning out..
but its going ot take practice. because you have to learn the angle and being able to keep it with out spinning out. i am sorry that i cant explain better. i guess its one of those thing you just have get the feel of .
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10-28-2008, 11:53 PM
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trying to practic on the highspeed ring, not going well.
10-28-2008, 11:55 PM
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well, I see problem #1, I'm going WAAAAAAYYyyyyyy too fast into these turns