Euro-spec Mazda CX-5 OFFICIAL PICS , Debut at Frankford Motor Show
01-05-2012, 12:34 PM
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01-05-2012, 01:00 PM
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Where is the problem ,bse? taxes are not more "capacity related" and you 'll have a surprise with insurances rates.....now is not related with capacity.....
2.2 is correct for have a reliable diesel engine....
01-05-2012, 01:07 PM
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The last time I checked my insurance was still capacity related and the power output would be too high as well. Our region increased the property taxes a bunch more than yours 
The 2.0l better fits my needs and should be able to legally trail the rx8 to the track.
The 2.0l better fits my needs and should be able to legally trail the rx8 to the track.
01-05-2012, 01:27 PM
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EDIT: thank you Charlie...alwayse liked geography
http://maps.google.it/maps?client=sa...ed=0CDsQ8gEwAg
now i know where Portland's people go to skiing...
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01-05-2012, 01:44 PM
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BTW....Australia also gets the Diesel CX-5 @ launch in March...only a few months away.
01-05-2012, 01:59 PM
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As far as I know all the Diesels will be 2.2 with twin turbo skyactiv. Around 170 hp. I think there's a standard power and high power version with the higher making 310 lb/ft torque. I don't remember what the differences were.
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01-05-2012, 02:04 PM
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yeah Matt thats it. and you need chains to to get up around there most of the time. actually required by Department of Transportation. I aint putting chains on the 8 and i keep getting told there are no chains that will work on the Mazda 5 with its low profile tires.
01-05-2012, 02:09 PM
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I actually have a set of snow cables for both the 8 and our 5. Only had to use them once on each car, but they worked (ish). They kept us from getting stuck, but my god it's one of those "don't go faster than 5mph". Shortly after using those is when I first got snow tires instead.
01-06-2012, 12:23 PM
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here in EU for legislation are equivalente to chains.
those tires TRANSFORM the car handling and braking at low temps and/or ice.
01-06-2012, 01:09 PM
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in shyntesis Winter Tires=Chains for legislation. Very few people buy or" wear" chains ,a lot more have winter tires.
with this indication i can pass with winter tires on (or chains), without will get a fine from police.
but in the past the our legislation was similar to yours. chains are not the best in many conditions IMHO
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01-06-2012, 01:11 PM
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The US is quite a bit behind you there 
Most places don't even realize that there is a difference from one tire type to the next. The northern states have started realizing that "OMG! Winter tires save people from accidents far better!" Unfortunately, some places haven't realized that chains aren't the only option.
Most places don't even realize that there is a difference from one tire type to the next. The northern states have started realizing that "OMG! Winter tires save people from accidents far better!" Unfortunately, some places haven't realized that chains aren't the only option.
01-06-2012, 01:17 PM
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The US is quite a bit behind you there
Most places don't even realize that there is a difference from one tire type to the next. The northern states have started realizing that "OMG! Winter tires save people from accidents far better!" Unfortunately, some places haven't realized that chains aren't the only option.
Most places don't even realize that there is a difference from one tire type to the next. The northern states have started realizing that "OMG! Winter tires save people from accidents far better!" Unfortunately, some places haven't realized that chains aren't the only option.
got the point...there is a good motivation to push winter tires for public administrations: chains destroy road surface...more cost for repair.....
01-06-2012, 01:23 PM
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The people with the power in my state all drive really soft suspension caddys, and haven't realized that the roads are actually in need of repair...
At least, that's the only explanation I've been able to come up with. Even when they do completely re-do the surface of a road, it's still wavy, bumpy, and ripply, even if not actually broken pavement any more. Constantly leaves me saying "wtf?! How in the hell is this considered acceptable!?!?! This is where many states start repaving due to low quality!"
Car/road/driving culture is terrible here
At least, that's the only explanation I've been able to come up with. Even when they do completely re-do the surface of a road, it's still wavy, bumpy, and ripply, even if not actually broken pavement any more. Constantly leaves me saying "wtf?! How in the hell is this considered acceptable!?!?! This is where many states start repaving due to low quality!"
Car/road/driving culture is terrible here
01-06-2012, 01:34 PM
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a country where roads are perfectly maintained is Japan...no need to have a car with 235/65/18 tires...is a pleasure to drive those roads..
01-06-2012, 01:37 PM
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yeah they still allow studded tires here and they are the only accepted alternative to chains. we are very close to getting the studded tires outlawed so thats a good first step. actual non-studded snow tires would be just as good as the chains and less harmful to the road surface but thats a fight for down the road after the studs go away
01-06-2012, 01:45 PM
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yeah they still allow studded tires here and they are the only accepted alternative to chains. we are very close to getting the studded tires outlawed so thats a good first step. actual non-studded snow tires would be just as good as the chains and less harmful to the road surface but thats a fight for down the road after the studs go away
01-09-2012, 11:36 AM
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