Really...


http://europe.autonews.com/article/2...autonews-blast

 

Eliminating internal combustion engines by 2040 might as well be predicting aliens will take over Australia by 2040. It's meaningless drivel.

 

Oh No.....

Whew, where do I go now..... Ceylon

 

Way too optimistic.

Seems like these EV companies are getting ahead of themselves a bit. What, they just expect big oils to do nothing?

Besides, while this may work for France, how will America/China/any big countries with loads of people generate that much electricity if we replace all ICE cars with EVs?

Not to mention the charge time(no, 45 minutes is NOT fast enough if I am doing anything other than daily driving), the amount of lithium we would need, etc...

 

Speaking of Batteries, And look who is in my State right now....

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/busine...56477942168dd9

I just don't trust this guy (Musk) or our State Government who has been in power for nearly 15 years, thank god they will get thrown out of office next March 2018.

And yeah I know Musk made a fortune out of selling PayPal, but, everything since he has done has all been on borrowed money and actually has not made a dime doing anything, Space X or Tesla.

 

Never doubt the power of a roman god masquerading as a man ...

 

Musk and his crew will build the largest Li Battery (bank) in the world in my State in 100 days or it is free (that is the deal apparently which originally started from a tweet).

And the deal includes some Tesla car 'power stations' in the city here, WTF for there are only 2 Tesla Model S here in this state, yes only two, and are about $110K AUD each..

So he could lose $50 mil for a 100 MW Battery (his words).
http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-s...ilt-in-sa.html

 

That's exactly what I would do. The problem with EVs is where you go to charge them. So if he loses 50M on that now, it's peanuts compared to getting a foothold in the area. If there were no gas stations, nobody would buy gas cars.

And you guys have lots of sun for the whole solar roof thing, right? You see what he's doing?

 

From a country that gave the world Citroens, Renaults and Pukejokes... makes perfect sense.

 

We already have roof top solar and wind farms, had them for years, we also now have the most expensive power in the world in my State, this is what happens when liberal governments subsidise solar, I don't have solar on roof and can not (house design), irregardless I pay 38 cents per Kwh, I think most of you guys in US pay about 7 cents Kwh from what I have heard.

As for electric cars well, they just don't sell here, too expensive.
Nissan Leaf here was $60K, Mazda 3 $24K, now what would I buy?
Mitsubishi iQ whatever it was (micro) $52K Mazda 2 $19K.

 

Yikes. That sounds terrible. Around here the gov't subsidises the EV's themselves, for this reason.

Then again, they do have the more afforable model 3 coming.

But, how is that energy stored at night? The whole point of the city battery is to charge during the day and power the city at night. Unless you already have that, the solar stuff only works during the day and traditional energy takes over at night, which is the most expensive scenario.

The problem Tesla has, IMO, is breaking out of California/New York where it's cheap enough for the standard of living and has a good support structure. Australia makes a perfect testing ground for the absolute opposite kind of market.

As for France, well it is the Paris accord after all. We need to get off of oil, it's not going to happen by itself.

 

I completely agree. Long live go juice

 

From what I hear the Model 3 is the do or die for Tesla, so they can actually make money, until liberal Governments stop using tax payer (citizen's) money to subsidize either the car or power grid to a level playing field then the poor will never afford and the wealthy gets the tax breaks they don't need.

My state is large in size (about a Texas and a half) and only has 1.4 million as population.
This 100 MW Tesla (worlds Largest Li Battery) actually will store about 4% of our use and will be charged off one of the wind-farms in Jamestown (about 2 hours drive north from city CBD), this state needs/uses about 2650 MW (roughly), one could say at best it will be a peaking plant/storage base load battery only when needed.

My State still has 300 years of Coal in ground and we had a 1400 MW Coal Plant in Port Augusta (which a French company owned) but they pulled out and de-commissioned it as even coal was no longer viable (here), all crazy, so it has been torn down after 60 years or so of use.
Then just after we had a state wide blackout last year as it was too windy for the wind power turbines to operate and at 6.30PM the sun goes down so no roof top solar power, so with no coal base-load (Port Augusta) and an overload with a interstate inter-connector that tripped overload off, we had No Power for about 15 hours State Wide, none.

Germany did the same thing before us, invested heavily in Solar and Wind, and guess what no decent base-load, so now they are re-investing in small 'clean coal' power plants, they buy the coal from us.

It is bullsh*t when a State Government can not guarantee a basic essential service....electricity

 

I recall someone calling your state Commiefornia, LOL.

Seriously, though, I heard BC Hydro generates way more power than we need. We could use that big battery.

Another thing I know is that Shanghai has an interesting take on the fact that power plants can't store electricity effectively - the electricity price is halved from 10pm to 6am of the next morning. With some clever scheduling(e.g washing your clothes late at night), you could benefit from this, and the power plants can give off all the electricity more easily. It's a win-win situation.

I really don't like Model 3's styling. It's very fugly. The front looks like a stereotypical alien. I am not joking when I say that the 2018 XLE/XSE Camry looks better. You know a car is ugly if a Toyota looks better than it.

And then there's the fact that no one makes a EV Coupe with 4 or 5 seats. Sorry, but Sedans currently don't attract me. I will happily driving my polluting RX-8 just because it looks nice, it's unique and it's still practical.

 

So I had a quick look at the 2016 South Australia energy annual report. Looks like your peak consumption is around 2700MW. That's peak, not every day. About 42% generated from wind and roof top solar btw!

But it turns out the rest of Australia is cutting out coal, so "without alternative supplies, SA could again experience reliability problems in 2019-2021."

It sounds like this is a peaking/bridging solution to solve the exact problem with reliability you see