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Old 04-30-2007, 09:34 AM
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got a big speeding ticket on saturday

I need input on this because I am very upset over this.

I am 18 and under parents insurance...obviously that will go up. I have liberty mutual...any experience with that?

I was driving a honda odyssy at the time (not my 8) and there was no one on the road except me and the cop. The cop was pacing me and I didn't realize it until it was too late. He says I went 100 and proceeds to give me a ticket stating
100 mph in a 65 mph zone. He also decides to give me a ticket for failing to keep right. I am assuming this is 7 points...maybe 8 at most.

I was in Nj and I am from Delaware. How will this all fare out? He didn't give me amounts and told me to call the number and that I might have to go to court.

Also, the place I got pulled over is about 60miles away from home....what can I do about this?

The statute codes he wrote down are really bad handwriting and I can't find anything about the speeding one.

the failure to keep right is 39:4-88 (the four looks like a 7 too but I could only find codes with 4 and it worked out)
the speeding is very badly written. It says 19:9-12b. the second 9 is badly written but it is mostly a 9 or perhaps a very badly written 4. the b could be a 5 or bad 3
Old 04-30-2007, 09:41 AM
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Go see a traffic lawyer if you want help. I doubt the advice you'd get on this forum would do you much good.
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well I not exactly looking for advice...but for stories or known information about people who have been in similar situations
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your insurance will surely go up by quite a bit. at least it was in virginia, or it would have been a reckless
Old 04-30-2007, 09:54 AM
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The Speeding code is 39:4-99
Your looking at a total of 7 points. NJ will also share that info with Del
You should get a NJ Lawyer
Old 04-30-2007, 10:21 AM
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damn that honda van hauls ***!
Old 04-30-2007, 10:23 AM
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Out of state violations are capped at 2 points on a NJ license... not sure about DE.

Get a lawyer. It will be well worth it.
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Lawyer, nuff said.
Old 04-30-2007, 10:34 AM
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Delaware r00lz!1!!!11!

Sorry, I don't have any useful advice other than "stay out of New Jersey forever".
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If those tickets stick you might be dropped from your parents insurance.
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also get a nice butt pad for a nice spanking by your parents.
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Originally Posted by Ike
If those tickets stick you might be dropped from your parents insurance.

If those tickets stick he WILL be dropped from his parents insurance. There was a reason the cop gave you a ticket for 100 and not the standard 75/85. Everything up to and including 99mph is a standard traffic violation. 100+ is a whole new ballgame.

Insurance companies will usually treat a driver of your age with a 100+ ticket the same as they treat a drunk driver.
Old 04-30-2007, 10:59 AM
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ick...out of state tickets are not fun. I got a ticket for doing 125 in a 75 right after I got my 8.....expensive ticket
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Tell your parents, get a speeding ticket lawyer and/or get the points.
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oh man, what the heck were you doing driving 100 mph in a minivan???

- As for the ticket situation, here's what you need to do:
- Tell your parents ASAP! Last thing you want is to procrastinate because it'll only **** them off even MORE
- Get a NJ traffic lawyer, you're going to need it to save yourself from HUGE fines
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100 in a 65 in a minivan?

I'll give you a number: 474
That was my sister's ticket for 85 in a 65 in NJ. She went to court and I think wound up paying half that.

NJ has expensive tickets. 65 mph zones in NJ are DOUBLE FINES. I would not be surprised to see you looking at a $1000 speeding ticket. I've never actually gotten a speeding ticket in my home state but I have a couple minor out of state ones. NJ speeding tickets can be very expensive. 60 miles is driveable so you are going to want to get a lawyer and go to court. Even if you just get it knocked down a touch, it'll pay for the lawyer in the long haul. Given that it's a pacing ticket for dead on 100, you should be able to get it bumped down. I don't see signs in NJ for keep right except to pass and it's not usually something they really police. He was just piling something on because you are 18 and flagrantly speeding.

So, get a lawyer, go to court, eat a huge fine if you can decrease the points and effect on your insurance (reclassifying the ticket), and don't drive 100 mph unless you can eventually afford to lose your license.
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I am probably going to have to get a lawyer...I googled it and I can't seem to find prices. How much would a lawyer for speeding cost?

Also he said 100 but I thought I was going 80..but I am not sure because the ticket blew my mind.

How efficient is pacing? How easy is it to fight?
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Count on $500+ for a good lawyer.

But that will pay for itself in insurance savings if you can plea bargain it to a non-points ticket.
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Get a lawyer for sure. Hopefully you can get your ticket reduced to 80MPH or even lower (hugh differences in fine/points). Good luck... You'll need it.
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Originally Posted by neilp4453
I am probably going to have to get a lawyer...I googled it and I can't seem to find prices. How much would a lawyer for speeding cost?

Also he said 100 but I thought I was going 80..but I am not sure because the ticket blew my mind.

How efficient is pacing? How easy is it to fight?
Not much to fight when they pace you. Its your word against his (the court will side with him). The only thing you can hope for is if his speedo hasnt been calibrated recently. Most likely it has been though, but its something to contest. Good luck!
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I'm not really familiar with pacing in NJ. Speeding tickets aren't very tough to give out in NJ so any cop who has picked up a radar gun has probably written enough tickets to lose interest in it.

80 vs. 100 is a huge difference. 80 in a 65 in NJ is probably in the 200-300 range (because of the double penalty). 100 is a crap ton more and I think the Judge gets to personally kick you in the nuts. I could see a cop writing a pacing ticket for 85 if you were actually doing 80, but 100? That's not even close. When doing 100, you'll pass a car doing 80 at what is roughly the equivalent of running full out if you run fast.

In NJ, failure to keep right is 2 pts and 30+ over the speed limit is 5 points. Being out of state, you get 2 pts per moving violation, but that's still 4 pts (you have 2 tickets).
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Originally Posted by camaro194
Not much to fight when they pace you. Its your word against his (the court will side with him). The only thing you can hope for is if his speedo hasnt been calibrated recently. Most likely it has been though, but its something to contest. Good luck!
if that is the case..then wouldn't it be easier for my lawyer to make something happen versus a ticket gotten by a radar


I also have a q regarding auto insurance. since I will be going off to college instate and won't need a car..can I be taken off for 2-4 years and then get it later.
but what about driving....if I am not on the insurance plan..can I still drive the cars (limited though)?

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ok for one how do you not know how fast you were going. You should always know about how fast you are going, especially in a mini van. Suv's and minvans don't do to well at those speeds and you can tell. I don't know why all these people are lying to you and trying to make you think that you arent totally screwed. I'm just being honest man i have been to court for a speeding ticket and they know their ****. The judge or magistrate is always going to be on the police officers side to. Good luck just hope and pray you don't have to give up your license. That totally sucks. Your insurance will hit the ceiling to. especially since you drive an rx-8. Whoo your in some deep ****.
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First off, check out www.radardetector.net and scroll down to "How to beat a ticket"

You can call the court where you're supposed to appear and ask them how much the fine is for driving 35 over the PSL. They should be able to tell you.
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Trial by jury. Isn't everyone who has ever driven in the United States sick of BS non sense tickets.

If Honda would allow it, the current odyssey can do 140mph in 4th gear.


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