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05-15-2008, 01:55 PM
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Well I am not saying which is faster weather it be the paddles or not I'm just saying personally I would rather have a clutch to work because without a clutch it just feels like you're shifting an automatic through the gears thats just my opinion....
05-15-2008, 02:14 PM
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Sam Smith on the 2009 Nissan GT-R
By Sam Smith
In the four hours, forty-four minutes, and fifteen seconds that I spent with the GT-R, I feel like I learned a lot. I learned that it is entirely possible-though not necessarily smart-to make a big, hulking, two-door Nissan do 150 mph without even really thinking about it. I learned that few things are as fantastic as a differential that knows, sorts, and handles everything. I learned that Nissan's engineers have a thing for ***-out goofiness, so much so that the GT-R hangs tail even with its stability control engaged. And I learned that the single best way to make an amazing road car is to spend years of development at the world's most diabolical race track.
Still, the GT-R leaves me a little cold. For all its gizmo-laden, road-ripping might, it can't stir my feelings. I don't think I've driven a better tool for sheer over-the-road easy speed-my grandmother could drive this thing around the ring at eight tenths, and she's six feet underground-and it's an insane amount of performance for the money, but I don't find my wallet itching. A 911 Turbo bombards you with engine noise and chassis movement and emotion and history, regardless of how fast you're going; the GT-R is quicker, easier, and altogether more wicked, but it simply doesn't have much to say. If you're not punching out sonic booms, endangering life and limb left and right, the Nissan feels like an appliance. Or a Maxima with a crappy ride.
I guess, when it all comes down to it, I'm both astounded and a little disappointed. Astounded because of what the GT-R is capable of-it's a straight-line steamroller; a magic-chassis, opp-lock demon; and the single greatest four-wheeled vehicle of the year. The harder you drive it, the better it gets, the better it makes you look, and the more it wakes up. But mostly, the disappointment takes center stage. Disappointment in that I did 150 mph over a bumpy, lumpy stretch of asphalt with no drama and absolutely no entertainment, either. Disappointment in that one of the best Nurburgring tools ever built doesn't really feel or act that special. And disappointment in the fact that the latest and greatest Japanese supercar is still an emotional dead-end.
And thats why we love the 8. Its not numbers. Its soul. something $70G's and 500HP cant get you. So lets stop drooling about some obese bodybuider on steroids and appreciate once again...our lovely nimble and SOULFUL 8.
Sam Smith on the 2009 Nissan GT-R
By Sam Smith
In the four hours, forty-four minutes, and fifteen seconds that I spent with the GT-R, I feel like I learned a lot. I learned that it is entirely possible-though not necessarily smart-to make a big, hulking, two-door Nissan do 150 mph without even really thinking about it. I learned that few things are as fantastic as a differential that knows, sorts, and handles everything. I learned that Nissan's engineers have a thing for ***-out goofiness, so much so that the GT-R hangs tail even with its stability control engaged. And I learned that the single best way to make an amazing road car is to spend years of development at the world's most diabolical race track.
Still, the GT-R leaves me a little cold. For all its gizmo-laden, road-ripping might, it can't stir my feelings. I don't think I've driven a better tool for sheer over-the-road easy speed-my grandmother could drive this thing around the ring at eight tenths, and she's six feet underground-and it's an insane amount of performance for the money, but I don't find my wallet itching. A 911 Turbo bombards you with engine noise and chassis movement and emotion and history, regardless of how fast you're going; the GT-R is quicker, easier, and altogether more wicked, but it simply doesn't have much to say. If you're not punching out sonic booms, endangering life and limb left and right, the Nissan feels like an appliance. Or a Maxima with a crappy ride.
I guess, when it all comes down to it, I'm both astounded and a little disappointed. Astounded because of what the GT-R is capable of-it's a straight-line steamroller; a magic-chassis, opp-lock demon; and the single greatest four-wheeled vehicle of the year. The harder you drive it, the better it gets, the better it makes you look, and the more it wakes up. But mostly, the disappointment takes center stage. Disappointment in that I did 150 mph over a bumpy, lumpy stretch of asphalt with no drama and absolutely no entertainment, either. Disappointment in that one of the best Nurburgring tools ever built doesn't really feel or act that special. And disappointment in the fact that the latest and greatest Japanese supercar is still an emotional dead-end.
And thats why we love the 8. Its not numbers. Its soul. something $70G's and 500HP cant get you. So lets stop drooling about some obese bodybuider on steroids and appreciate once again...our lovely nimble and SOULFUL 8.
05-15-2008, 03:48 PM
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GTR is ugly. People buy don't buy it for its looks but to quote lap numbers on a racetrack that not many folks can even pronounce let alone spell it. OK OK it's the legendary Nissan service too!
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05-15-2008, 04:08 PM
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I was a critic of the GTR when it came out but i have to admit it is as fast as they say and i think it is a monumental machine however i don't know if i would buy one. For one the superautomanual box is faster than i ever could be but it leaves me cold and it is not a "good" looking car IMO. A lot like some of subaru's designs in that it takes some getting use to. And the GTR is A LOT of car. Still, it is an engineering masterpiece.
05-20-2008, 12:31 PM
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Sam Smith on the 2009 Nissan GT-R
By Sam Smith
In the four hours, forty-four minutes, and fifteen seconds that I spent with the GT-R, I feel like I learned a lot. I learned that it is entirely possible-though not necessarily smart-to make a big, hulking, two-door Nissan do 150 mph without even really thinking about it. I learned that few things are as fantastic as a differential that knows, sorts, and handles everything. I learned that Nissan's engineers have a thing for ***-out goofiness, so much so that the GT-R hangs tail even with its stability control engaged. And I learned that the single best way to make an amazing road car is to spend years of development at the world's most diabolical race track.
Still, the GT-R leaves me a little cold. For all its gizmo-laden, road-ripping might, it can't stir my feelings. I don't think I've driven a better tool for sheer over-the-road easy speed-my grandmother could drive this thing around the ring at eight tenths, and she's six feet underground-and it's an insane amount of performance for the money, but I don't find my wallet itching. A 911 Turbo bombards you with engine noise and chassis movement and emotion and history, regardless of how fast you're going; the GT-R is quicker, easier, and altogether more wicked, but it simply doesn't have much to say. If you're not punching out sonic booms, endangering life and limb left and right, the Nissan feels like an appliance. Or a Maxima with a crappy ride.
I guess, when it all comes down to it, I'm both astounded and a little disappointed. Astounded because of what the GT-R is capable of-it's a straight-line steamroller; a magic-chassis, opp-lock demon; and the single greatest four-wheeled vehicle of the year. The harder you drive it, the better it gets, the better it makes you look, and the more it wakes up. But mostly, the disappointment takes center stage. Disappointment in that I did 150 mph over a bumpy, lumpy stretch of asphalt with no drama and absolutely no entertainment, either. Disappointment in that one of the best Nurburgring tools ever built doesn't really feel or act that special. And disappointment in the fact that the latest and greatest Japanese supercar is still an emotional dead-end.
And thats why we love the 8. Its not numbers. Its soul. something $70G's and 500HP cant get you. So lets stop drooling about some obese bodybuider on steroids and appreciate once again...our lovely nimble and SOULFUL 8.
Sam Smith on the 2009 Nissan GT-R
By Sam Smith
In the four hours, forty-four minutes, and fifteen seconds that I spent with the GT-R, I feel like I learned a lot. I learned that it is entirely possible-though not necessarily smart-to make a big, hulking, two-door Nissan do 150 mph without even really thinking about it. I learned that few things are as fantastic as a differential that knows, sorts, and handles everything. I learned that Nissan's engineers have a thing for ***-out goofiness, so much so that the GT-R hangs tail even with its stability control engaged. And I learned that the single best way to make an amazing road car is to spend years of development at the world's most diabolical race track.
Still, the GT-R leaves me a little cold. For all its gizmo-laden, road-ripping might, it can't stir my feelings. I don't think I've driven a better tool for sheer over-the-road easy speed-my grandmother could drive this thing around the ring at eight tenths, and she's six feet underground-and it's an insane amount of performance for the money, but I don't find my wallet itching. A 911 Turbo bombards you with engine noise and chassis movement and emotion and history, regardless of how fast you're going; the GT-R is quicker, easier, and altogether more wicked, but it simply doesn't have much to say. If you're not punching out sonic booms, endangering life and limb left and right, the Nissan feels like an appliance. Or a Maxima with a crappy ride.
I guess, when it all comes down to it, I'm both astounded and a little disappointed. Astounded because of what the GT-R is capable of-it's a straight-line steamroller; a magic-chassis, opp-lock demon; and the single greatest four-wheeled vehicle of the year. The harder you drive it, the better it gets, the better it makes you look, and the more it wakes up. But mostly, the disappointment takes center stage. Disappointment in that I did 150 mph over a bumpy, lumpy stretch of asphalt with no drama and absolutely no entertainment, either. Disappointment in that one of the best Nurburgring tools ever built doesn't really feel or act that special. And disappointment in the fact that the latest and greatest Japanese supercar is still an emotional dead-end.
And thats why we love the 8. Its not numbers. Its soul. something $70G's and 500HP cant get you. So lets stop drooling about some obese bodybuider on steroids and appreciate once again...our lovely nimble and SOULFUL 8.
I'm dissappointed in the looks of the GT-R. I think that for a supercar, it could have been much more. Instead, it looks like a warmed over 350z/G35.
05-20-2008, 02:29 PM
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That's what some bloke said about the Ferrari Fiorano on Fifth Gear. I guess that it is symptomatic of cars that do everything too easily. It's not enough of a challenge to drive fast.
I'm dissappointed in the looks of the GT-R. I think that for a supercar, it could have been much more. Instead, it looks like a warmed over 350z/G35.
I'm dissappointed in the looks of the GT-R. I think that for a supercar, it could have been much more. Instead, it looks like a warmed over 350z/G35.
You're not going to get everything for $70K. You could get a loaded Cayman S for that price with all the feel and soul you could want, or you could get the GT-R which does everything fast. It's almost like people are saying the car is flawless which in itself is a flaw. But hey, what do you want for $70K?
05-20-2008, 02:47 PM
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Why are you guys dissing on the look of GT-R all the time?? Yes, it's ugly! Yes, it's bulky! Yes, it's heavy! But it's as fast and performs as good as a 100K sport car and you're paying only 60-70K.
Besides...........they're supposed to be a mean-lean-performance-machines!! They're not supposed to be "PRETTY"! If you want a pretty car, you should consider buying a yellow VW Bug with sunflower wheels, you ..you sissy!!!!
Besides...........they're supposed to be a mean-lean-performance-machines!! They're not supposed to be "PRETTY"! If you want a pretty car, you should consider buying a yellow VW Bug with sunflower wheels, you ..you sissy!!!!
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05-20-2008, 03:18 PM
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Man...I'm so lazy to go details.......
So..you're basically saying...if you had to spend the same amount of money, you would rather choose a 295hp/251lb torque car over a 480hp/430lb torque car?
So..you're basically saying...if you had to spend the same amount of money, you would rather choose a 295hp/251lb torque car over a 480hp/430lb torque car?
05-21-2008, 09:40 AM
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Some people care more about what people think of them in their car and grabbing attention on the road than the actual performance of a car.
its their money and more power to them.
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^^ I never said he wasn't entitled to choose what he wanted. As you said..it's his money ofcourse he can do whatever.
I asked that question so that the answer he'd give would show what type of person he was.
Besides after reading his comment on the other GT-R thread about him not buying GT-R cuz it's not mod-able.........I think it's safe to rest my case here. :D haha
I asked that question so that the answer he'd give would show what type of person he was.
Besides after reading his comment on the other GT-R thread about him not buying GT-R cuz it's not mod-able.........I think it's safe to rest my case here. :D haha
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