Help Deciding: 08 STI vs 370Z
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lol overated? here are the numbers of last gen of both cars at the Ring
8:06 - STI
8:26 350 z
i bet hatchback version of the sti >> the 370 still. in my eyes, i wouldnt call it overated. both are cars look good, but to call it overated is a good joke. but that is just me..
8:06 - STI
8:26 350 z
i bet hatchback version of the sti >> the 370 still. in my eyes, i wouldnt call it overated. both are cars look good, but to call it overated is a good joke. but that is just me..
It's the same as people comparing the new Evo vs old Evo in overseas rags and people in the US claiming the old one is better. Even though we never got the Evo 8/9 with ayc, etc..
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As much as I wanted to like it, my test of the STI on a canyon road left me quite disappointed.
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Also keep in mind that the STI we get is not the same as the one that is flying around the ring. Japan gets one with a much better steering rack (13:1), screaming engine (2l, 8k rpm redline), etc..
It's the same as people comparing the new Evo vs old Evo in overseas rags and people in the US claiming the old one is better. Even though we never got the Evo 8/9 with ayc, etc..
It's the same as people comparing the new Evo vs old Evo in overseas rags and people in the US claiming the old one is better. Even though we never got the Evo 8/9 with ayc, etc..
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To me the thing overrated about the STI in the form we get it in the states is that after spending 34k+ you still have to spend money on suspension, various bushing, brakes, etc to get it to a level of tightness it should have come with from the factory.
As much as I wanted to like it, my test of the STI on a canyon road left me quite disappointed.
As much as I wanted to like it, my test of the STI on a canyon road left me quite disappointed.
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Uh, what?! Regretting getting an RX-8 over a speed3? That's like saying regretting dating a model over a tranny. Only legit reason I could see to regretting an RX-8 would be if you wanted the omph factor off the start although it would own the rest in the corners. That and fuel mileage. Other than that, yea.... One should know what they're gonna get in a car before buying it or at least you would think.
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i dont live at a race track either. but to say the STI is overated (not saying you said that) is retarded, and not giving me a reason of why he thinks is overated. i would understand if he said STI is FUGLY because ppl taste in looks are different.
so bascially i am just trying to figure out what is overated abotu the sti.
as for 370 z price being at 40k, now that price is overated. the car isnt worth 40k.
so bascially i am just trying to figure out what is overated abotu the sti.
as for 370 z price being at 40k, now that price is overated. the car isnt worth 40k.
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To me the thing overrated about the STI in the form we get it in the states is that after spending 34k+ you still have to spend money on suspension, various bushing, brakes, etc to get it to a level of tightness it should have come with from the factory.
As much as I wanted to like it, my test of the STI on a canyon road left me quite disappointed.
As much as I wanted to like it, my test of the STI on a canyon road left me quite disappointed.
Adding things like sways and springs help even more. The thing is you can change stuff about the STI to make it what you want it to be. Plenty of aftermarket for it.
The only things wrong with the RX8 is HP, TQ and MPG. You can fix the HP/TQ to a degree but its going to cost you a hell of alot more than sways/coils and some bushings for the STI and you will still only be on par with your typical stage 1 STI/Evo.
I liked my RX8 for what it was and I like my STI for what it is, I don't really think one is better than the other they are just different. Same goes for the 370, its closer to the 8 than the STI is and if I only needed two seats I'd probably have one by now.
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Performance wise the STi is the better car, no doubt about it. In the few areas where the Z is a better car, a few modifications would easily bridge that gap. That being said, I don't live at the racetrack, and I can't stand the STi's looks.
The bottom line is, I want something that looks a little more aggressive. The Zed certainly fits this role, but as I said a few posts earlier, Nissian is doing their best to gouge you on this car. Until prices and financing get better I'll be keeping the STi.
The dealership tried to make me finance the car over 84 months, for what would have totaled over 50,000 dollars. I laughed at them, and walked right the heck out. Never before, had a dealership tried to screw me so badly. I was shocked -- they must have thought I was an idiot or something.
The bottom line is, I want something that looks a little more aggressive. The Zed certainly fits this role, but as I said a few posts earlier, Nissian is doing their best to gouge you on this car. Until prices and financing get better I'll be keeping the STi.
The dealership tried to make me finance the car over 84 months, for what would have totaled over 50,000 dollars. I laughed at them, and walked right the heck out. Never before, had a dealership tried to screw me so badly. I was shocked -- they must have thought I was an idiot or something.
The Sad thing is so many fall for a deal like this...it is criminal...
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i dont live at a race track either. but to say the STI is overated (not saying you said that) is retarded, and not giving me a reason of why he thinks is overated. i would understand if he said STI is FUGLY because ppl taste in looks are different.
so bascially i am just trying to figure out what is overated abotu the sti.
as for 370 z price being at 40k, now that price is overated. the car isnt worth 40k.
so bascially i am just trying to figure out what is overated abotu the sti.
as for 370 z price being at 40k, now that price is overated. the car isnt worth 40k.
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The Older Sti's....not this recent new model, are way over rated as in everyone having them and people thinking they are "the car" to have....most teens/young adults who do buy dont even mod them, they just throw a blow off on it and a APEXI or TANABE exhaust like most STI owners do and call it a day. All sounding/looking the same, all this because the price tag being high for an STI and leaving no money for youunger drivers for mods....and yeah they go around talking that they are really fast>? welll duh...boxer engine turbo at that....AWD...front mount intercooler...BREMBO brakes...it better be fast...You see there is nothing to brag about an STI unless you Mod it somehow, but with it already being turbo, and having a front mount, most STI owners just buy a COBB and call it a day...theres no fun in it, and people expect it to be fast. You see now look at if you were to show up somewhere with a SUPERCHARGED or TURBO'd 8, Huge front mount intercooler, all HKS ball bearing....Suspension all under body braces, struts, coilovers, BBK, and ....people will be amazed instead of the boreness they get when they see an STI and go "oh yeah its turbo'd" "yeah duh its pretty fast its turbod" or "yeah everyone has those because they are already turbo'd".....People get excited over STI's (talking about previous models), when STI's are really old News. BEEN THERE DONE MANY TIMES.....ID LIKE to see a 20BT or 13BT outta an FD into a SE3P and be a DD...that would be an eye popper!! compared to the usuall STI....PSsshhhh....and this goes for EVOs as well....
edit: Dont get me wrong EVOS and STIs are great cars in power/handling, but are overated in "the car to have" category.
370z- $45K USD
RX8 (R3)- $32K USD
WRX STI BBS and Navigation package -$39,490 USD+
Last edited by ZumnRx8; 05-24-2009 at 05:51 AM.
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The Older Sti's....not this recent new model, are way over rated as in everyone having them and people thinking they are "the car" to have....most teens/young adults who do buy dont even mod them, they just throw a blow off on it and a APEXI or TANABE exhaust like most STI owners do and call it a day. All sounding/looking the same, all this because the price tag being high for an STI and leaving no money for youunger drivers for mods....and yeah they go around talking that they are really fast>? welll duh...boxer engine turbo at that....AWD...front mount intercooler...BREMBO brakes...it better be fast...You see there is nothing to brag about an STI unless you Mod it somehow, but with it already being turbo, and having a front mount, most STI owners just buy a COBB and call it a day...theres no fun in it, and people expect it to be fast. You see now look at if you were to show up somewhere with a SUPERCHARGED or TURBO'd 8, Huge front mount intercooler, all HKS ball bearing....Suspension all under body braces, struts, coilovers, BBK, and ....people will be amazed instead of the boreness they get when they see an STI and go "oh yeah its turbo'd" "yeah duh its pretty fast its turbod" or "yeah everyone has those because they are already turbo'd".....People get excited over STI's (talking about previous models), when STI's are really old News. BEEN THERE DONE MANY TIMES.....ID LIKE to see a 20BT or 13BT outta an FD into a SE3P and be a DD...that would be an eye popper!! compared to the usuall STI....PSsshhhh....and this goes for EVOs as well....
edit: Dont get me wrong EVOS and STIs are great cars in power/handling, but are overated in "the car to have" category.
370z- $45K USD
RX8 (R3)- $32K USD
WRX STI BBS and Navigation package -$39,490 USD+
edit: Dont get me wrong EVOS and STIs are great cars in power/handling, but are overated in "the car to have" category.
370z- $45K USD
RX8 (R3)- $32K USD
WRX STI BBS and Navigation package -$39,490 USD+
ZumnRx8, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Just kidding....but seriously now, why do you think the STi is overrated?
#115
Slices of this post were on point. Especially considering the old STI's come with topmounts not front mounts like an FC and that front mount intercoolers suck so having one isn't exactly an advantage.
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The Older Sti's....not this recent new model, are way over rated as in everyone having them and people thinking they are "the car" to have....most teens/young adults who do buy dont even mod them, they just throw a blow off on it and a APEXI or TANABE exhaust like most STI owners do and call it a day. All sounding/looking the same, all this because the price tag being high for an STI and leaving no money for youunger drivers for mods....and yeah they go around talking that they are really fast>? welll duh...boxer engine turbo at that....AWD...front mount intercooler...BREMBO brakes...it better be fast...You see there is nothing to brag about an STI unless you Mod it somehow, but with it already being turbo, and having a front mount, most STI owners just buy a COBB and call it a day...theres no fun in it, and people expect it to be fast. You see now look at if you were to show up somewhere with a SUPERCHARGED or TURBO'd 8, Huge front mount intercooler, all HKS ball bearing....Suspension all under body braces, struts, coilovers, BBK, and ....people will be amazed instead of the boreness they get when they see an STI and go "oh yeah its turbo'd" "yeah duh its pretty fast its turbod" or "yeah everyone has those because they are already turbo'd".....People get excited over STI's (talking about previous models), when STI's are really old News. BEEN THERE DONE MANY TIMES.....ID LIKE to see a 20BT or 13BT outta an FD into a SE3P and be a DD...that would be an eye popper!! compared to the usuall STI....PSsshhhh....and this goes for EVOs as well....
edit: Dont get me wrong EVOS and STIs are great cars in power/handling, but are overated in "the car to have" category.
370z- $45K USD
RX8 (R3)- $32K USD
WRX STI BBS and Navigation package -$39,490 USD+
edit: Dont get me wrong EVOS and STIs are great cars in power/handling, but are overated in "the car to have" category.
370z- $45K USD
RX8 (R3)- $32K USD
WRX STI BBS and Navigation package -$39,490 USD+
so what your telling me is ppl who buy vettes , M3, and porsche are buying an overated car because they never moded them?
i guess when i go back to okinawa this summer to visit family and friends.
i should tell all my friends that own s15's and s14 and z that they are driving a overated cars, because there is alot of kids who drive those cars and not mod them. except maybe throw in a blow off.
Last edited by alfy28; 05-24-2009 at 01:51 PM.
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wtf! the 370Z ($45K) compared to the Rx8 ($32K) is 40% more in cost?? the aussie prices are $67K vs $60K which is only a 12% increase. Something seems weird.
Actually, if the Rx8 is decent buy then the 370Z in Australia must be awesome value;
75kw more power,
152 nm more torque,
5 sec vs 6 sec car,
better fuel economy 10.5 L/100km vs 12.9 L/100km.
subjective - looks, 2 seats vs 4 seats
I really like both cars, but I'd pay more for the Z on balance
Actually, if the Rx8 is decent buy then the 370Z in Australia must be awesome value;
75kw more power,
152 nm more torque,
5 sec vs 6 sec car,
better fuel economy 10.5 L/100km vs 12.9 L/100km.
subjective - looks, 2 seats vs 4 seats
I really like both cars, but I'd pay more for the Z on balance
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When I got my RX-8 back in 2004, I used to post on this site all of the time. There are quite a few level headed folks here, and I respect your opinions greatly. I'm stuck in a tough situation, and thought it might be a good idea to get a neutral opinion.
I currently have a 2008 STi. I've had a few issues with the car, and the styling just has not grown on me. I like the performance aspect, but the idea of zipping around town in a station wagon is begining to wear on me.
I've been checking out the 370Z, and I recently got quoted a great price on one. With the exception of a small downpayment, the transaction would be a wash.
I do live in the North East, so weather is consideration, but not a determining factor. Any thoughts in either direction would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
I currently have a 2008 STi. I've had a few issues with the car, and the styling just has not grown on me. I like the performance aspect, but the idea of zipping around town in a station wagon is begining to wear on me.
I've been checking out the 370Z, and I recently got quoted a great price on one. With the exception of a small downpayment, the transaction would be a wash.
I do live in the North East, so weather is consideration, but not a determining factor. Any thoughts in either direction would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
There is light at the end of the tunnel though if it's sincerely the STi's looks that have you looking. Evidently we are going to see an STi sedan again in the next few years. Maybe that would be a better trade?
EDIT: Don't get the Evo X. Too damn heavy. Dare I say the new STi is more "Evo" than the new Evo. Hard to explain but I think you'd be disappointed based on my significant seat time behind an Evo VIII, and admittedly sparse seat behind the wheel of an Evo X and a GR chassis STi. The new Evo has some really cool drivetrain technology but you never quite forget it's 3500lbs+. It feels heavy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU4qf...eature=related
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I'm a bit biased, but I gotta say Evo X, lol. I'm really starting to like that 370 though. After seeing it in person, I'm totally loving it. I want to test it and see how it feels, but I'm afraid what may happen.