Honda's new truck
01-29-2005, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by VelociRedBeast
But hey anything is better than the Element..
Also, agreed with Mr. Ed. That new truck is a Titan wannabe in the front and a faux Avalanche from the side/back.
01-29-2005, 02:21 PM
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its got a trunk under the bed for carrying groceries or other stuff you want to keep dry. water tight. and it has drain plugs - in case you want to fill it with ice and your favorite beverage for tailgating. after the ice melts you just pop the plugs and out it goes.
01-29-2005, 02:38 PM
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It's built from the Honda Pilot which I think was based on the accord platform. The engine is sideways and is primarily FWD. If the wheels start to slip 50% can be sent to the rear.
02-01-2005, 07:27 AM
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I don't think the typical pick-up truck driver will buy this vehicle. Honda doesn't offer a V-8 and it's unibody construction. Basically, it's a car posing as a truck, and it won't do the things trucks are supposed to do very well. Towing capacity, max load, and off-road capability won't come close to competing with small and mid-size body-on-frame trucks with V-8 engines. I can only see this "truck" appealing to a small market segment--people who want a car with a truck bed.
02-01-2005, 08:05 AM
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It is going to have a 3.6 L V6 I believe. They showed it in car & driver I believe. I think it is good that honda is doing pick up trucks. We have always debated on buying a pick up but I never want to buy a chevy, ford, or dodge. We currently have a honda suv and they make great cars.
02-01-2005, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Tigster
It is going to have a 3.6 L V6 I believe. They showed it in car & driver I believe. I think it is good that honda is doing pick up trucks. We have always debated on buying a pick up but I never want to buy a chevy, ford, or dodge. We currently have a honda suv and they make great cars.
02-01-2005, 02:46 PM
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Like most Hondas, the looks will grow on the masses. If you bought a Titan, you're nuts. They are having so many quality issues with those damn Nissan trucks. If you buy an American truck, then you're either rich or your own worst enemy. I would never buy a truck but if I did, I'd only buy a Honda truck.
02-01-2005, 03:33 PM
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If you buy an American truck, then you're either rich or your own worst enemy. I would never buy a truck but if I did, I'd only buy a Honda truck.
02-01-2005, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8_Buckeye
Nearly a million F-series trucks were sold in 2004. I believe the Silverado and Ram series were the 2nd and 3rd best-selling vehicles. Obviously, the masses like what the Big 3 have to offer in terms of trucks. If they were as bad as some of you believe, people would stop buying them. You don't sell a million vehicles if you're putting out garbage--why is that so hard to understand? "I'd only buy a Honda truck"... LOL, what truck? Only a Honda fanboy could consider this piece of garbage a truck.
But I knew I'd hit a nerve when I made my comment. And I stand by that comment, which is as simple as a solid comment can be.
Backing up the quality of the Big 3 trucks is equivalent to Lee Iaocca saying in a Chrysler commercial that K-cars were better than Honda Accords, which is a very poorly thought-out comment indicative of a Big 3 insider or teenage zealot...or in your words, fanboy.
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02-01-2005, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Reactionary
I'm not exactly a ricer. Never modded anything I've owned. You don't sell a million vehicles if you're putting out garbage? You want to make a bet? That's the history of the American Big 3, and many people in this country and on this forum would agree. Three factors might be education level, emotional bias, nationalism, and just plain mechanical/technical apathy.
But I knew I'd hit a nerve when I made my comment. And I stand by that comment, which is as simple as a solid comment can be.
Backing up the quality of the Big 3 trucks is equivalent to Lee Iaocca saying in a Chrysler commercial that K-cars were better than Honda Accords, which is a very poorly thought-out comment indicative of a Big 3 insider or teenage zealot...or in your words, fanboy.
But I knew I'd hit a nerve when I made my comment. And I stand by that comment, which is as simple as a solid comment can be.
Backing up the quality of the Big 3 trucks is equivalent to Lee Iaocca saying in a Chrysler commercial that K-cars were better than Honda Accords, which is a very poorly thought-out comment indicative of a Big 3 insider or teenage zealot...or in your words, fanboy.
The common perception (at least on forums dedicated to imports) that American vehicles are not as reliable as Japanese ones is not supported by the facts. The Big 3 currently have better reliability ratings than several Japanese brands, including Mazda (Hummer is the only American nameplate with worse initial quality than Mazda, actually), and three of the top six nameplates are American made (two GMs and a Ford). Their trucks, despite your ill-informed opinion, are quite sturdy and reliable, often even better than their Japanese competition, which is one of the reasons why they sell so many of them. Unfortunately, American branded cars and trucks are often seen as inferior for no good reason. Perhaps this is because of education level, emotional bias, nationalism, or just plain mechanical/technical apathy. Perhaps its from advertising campaigns run by Japanese companies pushing their products as reliable (inferring that others are not) and from memories of some truly horrid cars made decades ago by the Big 3. Perhaps it's from exposure to Japanese or European automotive fanboys, who are blinded to the positive qualities of any car that doesn't have the right badges on the front and back. Whatever the reason, it certainly isn't grounded in knowledge of the current status of the automotive industry.
02-01-2005, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PoorCollegeKid
Pot, meet kettle.
The common perception (at least on forums dedicated to imports) that American vehicles are not as reliable as Japanese ones is not supported by the facts. The Big 3 currently have better reliability ratings than several Japanese brands, including Mazda (Hummer is the only American nameplate with worse initial quality than Mazda, actually), and three of the top six nameplates are American made (two GMs and a Ford). Their trucks, despite your ill-informed opinion, are quite sturdy and reliable, often even better than their Japanese competition, which is one of the reasons why they sell so many of them. Unfortunately, American branded cars and trucks are often seen as inferior for no good reason. Perhaps this is because of education level, emotional bias, nationalism, or just plain mechanical/technical apathy. Perhaps its from advertising campaigns run by Japanese companies pushing their products as reliable (inferring that others are not) and from memories of some truly horrid cars made decades ago by the Big 3. Perhaps it's from exposure to Japanese or European automotive fanboys, who are blinded to the positive qualities of any car that doesn't have the right badges on the front and back. Whatever the reason, it certainly isn't grounded in knowledge of the current status of the automotive industry.
The common perception (at least on forums dedicated to imports) that American vehicles are not as reliable as Japanese ones is not supported by the facts. The Big 3 currently have better reliability ratings than several Japanese brands, including Mazda (Hummer is the only American nameplate with worse initial quality than Mazda, actually), and three of the top six nameplates are American made (two GMs and a Ford). Their trucks, despite your ill-informed opinion, are quite sturdy and reliable, often even better than their Japanese competition, which is one of the reasons why they sell so many of them. Unfortunately, American branded cars and trucks are often seen as inferior for no good reason. Perhaps this is because of education level, emotional bias, nationalism, or just plain mechanical/technical apathy. Perhaps its from advertising campaigns run by Japanese companies pushing their products as reliable (inferring that others are not) and from memories of some truly horrid cars made decades ago by the Big 3. Perhaps it's from exposure to Japanese or European automotive fanboys, who are blinded to the positive qualities of any car that doesn't have the right badges on the front and back. Whatever the reason, it certainly isn't grounded in knowledge of the current status of the automotive industry.