JD Powers Cars Customers Love to own
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/09/21/...eal/index.html
how the hell did the Mustang win as the top "Sporty Car"???????
The Vette as the top premium car, thats understandable...but a mustang? I'm not saying an 8 should win (but it should!), but a mustang....ugh..what is this world coming to?
how the hell did the Mustang win as the top "Sporty Car"???????
The Vette as the top premium car, thats understandable...but a mustang? I'm not saying an 8 should win (but it should!), but a mustang....ugh..what is this world coming to?
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what a strange list....
Entry midsize car: Pontiac G6
Huh? I thot the G6 was a minor flop?
Premium midsize car: Kia Amanti
Whoa? The Amanti is more desired than say the Acura TL?
Entry Luxury car: Lexus IS300/IS300 SportCross/Mercedes-Benz C-class
Over the BMW 3 series?
Sporty car: Ford Mustang
Premium sports car: Chevrolet Corvette
Sure. American readers so there's going to be a bias toward american cars. Plus those two are nice in their own right.
Entry SUV: Kia Sportage
I'm guessing Kia has really improved this car. I had an older one as a rental once and it was utter trash. After I dropped it off, I decided I would NEVER buy a Kia. But yeah I've heard Kia and Hyundai have made ENORMOUS advancements.
The discontinued Pontiac Aztek placed third, after the Nissan Xterra, in the "Entry SUV" category.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Entry midsize car: Pontiac G6
Huh? I thot the G6 was a minor flop?
Premium midsize car: Kia Amanti
Whoa? The Amanti is more desired than say the Acura TL?
Entry Luxury car: Lexus IS300/IS300 SportCross/Mercedes-Benz C-class
Over the BMW 3 series?
Sporty car: Ford Mustang
Premium sports car: Chevrolet Corvette
Sure. American readers so there's going to be a bias toward american cars. Plus those two are nice in their own right.
Entry SUV: Kia Sportage
I'm guessing Kia has really improved this car. I had an older one as a rental once and it was utter trash. After I dropped it off, I decided I would NEVER buy a Kia. But yeah I've heard Kia and Hyundai have made ENORMOUS advancements.
The discontinued Pontiac Aztek placed third, after the Nissan Xterra, in the "Entry SUV" category.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by djseto
This weekend. A buddy of mine got one and its got tons of mods. I hear they have some sick power, but still lack on handling...
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Have you seen the JD Powers ratings for the RX-8?
Go to http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto/ratin...ndJdAwards.jsp and put in the RX-8.
Average or below average in everything but comfort. WTF??? I guess the only people from this forum who voted are the few with blown engines.
No wonder it wasn't on the list.
Go to http://www.jdpower.com/cc/auto/ratin...ndJdAwards.jsp and put in the RX-8.
Average or below average in everything but comfort. WTF??? I guess the only people from this forum who voted are the few with blown engines.
No wonder it wasn't on the list.
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You've got to think about the research behind the ratings, what questions were asked, and who was asked these questions.
The APEAL study surveys people who own the car. These are people who already bought the car in question, implying that they liked it better than the alternatives. If they didn't like something about the car, especially something that should be evident before they bought it, then they wouldn't have bought the car. It's kind of like people asking how much they like the clothes they're wearing.
Of course, this bias is the same for every car in the sample. So how to explain why some cars do better than others?
Frankly, there is a bias towards ugly cars. If a car is good looking, like many people consider the RX-8 to be, then many people are likely to buy it for the wrong reasons, or figure they can just live with a few things they don't like. If a car is ugly, and especially if it is widely regarded as such, then those who buy it likely do so because it truly meets the full range of their needs.
More than this, if they know many others don't think much of their car they'll defend it all the more. This is why the Pontiac Aztek was tops in its segment a number of times. This factor also comes into play even if a car is just widely recognized as a second- or third-best choice behind a widely recognized leader. This is why the BMW 3 will trail cars like the Lexus and Mercedes.
A low price can cut both ways. Most people don't like to think they bought an inferior car just to save money. So they'll argue that they really like the car. This tends to boost ratings for Korean cars as long as they aren't unreliable. On the other hand, if the incentive is so huge, the manufacturer seemed desperate, and the car has obvious weaknesses, then people might regret cutting corners and the car will receive no such boost.
With the RX-8 I think fuel economy really takes a lot of people by surprise, and this could affect their opinion of every aspect fo the car. Most people aren't very good at forming multiple opinions about a single product. If one thing upsets them, then every aspect of the product is suddenly bad. Similarly, if nothing upsets them and they like one thing a lot, every aspect of the product seems good. This might explain why so many people think Toyota sedans are good looking cars...
The APEAL study surveys people who own the car. These are people who already bought the car in question, implying that they liked it better than the alternatives. If they didn't like something about the car, especially something that should be evident before they bought it, then they wouldn't have bought the car. It's kind of like people asking how much they like the clothes they're wearing.
Of course, this bias is the same for every car in the sample. So how to explain why some cars do better than others?
Frankly, there is a bias towards ugly cars. If a car is good looking, like many people consider the RX-8 to be, then many people are likely to buy it for the wrong reasons, or figure they can just live with a few things they don't like. If a car is ugly, and especially if it is widely regarded as such, then those who buy it likely do so because it truly meets the full range of their needs.
More than this, if they know many others don't think much of their car they'll defend it all the more. This is why the Pontiac Aztek was tops in its segment a number of times. This factor also comes into play even if a car is just widely recognized as a second- or third-best choice behind a widely recognized leader. This is why the BMW 3 will trail cars like the Lexus and Mercedes.
A low price can cut both ways. Most people don't like to think they bought an inferior car just to save money. So they'll argue that they really like the car. This tends to boost ratings for Korean cars as long as they aren't unreliable. On the other hand, if the incentive is so huge, the manufacturer seemed desperate, and the car has obvious weaknesses, then people might regret cutting corners and the car will receive no such boost.
With the RX-8 I think fuel economy really takes a lot of people by surprise, and this could affect their opinion of every aspect fo the car. Most people aren't very good at forming multiple opinions about a single product. If one thing upsets them, then every aspect of the product is suddenly bad. Similarly, if nothing upsets them and they like one thing a lot, every aspect of the product seems good. This might explain why so many people think Toyota sedans are good looking cars...
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Mustangs have been around for years and they have VERY loyal consumers. There are people that have 2 or more mustangs per house hold. It is one of those cars that people grew up riding in and want to relive the experience of when they were younger.
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Originally Posted by spork
Premium midsize car: Kia Amanti
Whoa? The Amanti is more desired than say the Acura TL?
Whoa? The Amanti is more desired than say the Acura TL?
Canadian $$$
Kia Amanti starts @ $35995
Acura TL starts @ $41000
differences are probably similar on the american side of the border (i would assume)
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Mustang is a nice little ride that is great for it's value.
I'd still stick with the Rotary though... more fun to drive, and gets more looks. Kinda sad to pull up next to another Mustang and see a 70 year old grandma driving one.
Zoom zoom.
I'd still stick with the Rotary though... more fun to drive, and gets more looks. Kinda sad to pull up next to another Mustang and see a 70 year old grandma driving one.
Zoom zoom.
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Originally Posted by Outlaws eXtreme
Mustang is a nice little ride that is great for it's value.
I'd still stick with the Rotary though... more fun to drive, and gets more looks. Kinda sad to pull up next to another Mustang and see a 70 year old grandma driving one.
Zoom zoom.
I'd still stick with the Rotary though... more fun to drive, and gets more looks. Kinda sad to pull up next to another Mustang and see a 70 year old grandma driving one.
Zoom zoom.
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Originally Posted by cas2themoe
Funny that you say that. I see about 10 new mustangs a day where I live and about 7/10 are driven by 40+. But out of all those that I do see, only 1 or 2 are a GT's, most are just the base model. BOOOOOOOOOOO
Funny that you say that. I see about 10 new mustangs a day where I live and about 7/10 are driven by 40+. But out of all those that I do see, only 1 or 2 are a GT's, most are just the base model. BOOOOOOOOOOO
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Originally Posted by NgoRX8
True that. Everytime I see the 05 mustang I read the bak for the GT symbol or the front for the fogs. I usually don't see those.
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Originally Posted by justice4RX8
:D I have a MUSTANG, AND IT'S ALOT BETTER THEN THE RX8. I did wont one but changed my mind. To many problem's WITH THE RX8. I LOVE MY MUSTANG!!!!!
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A couple weeks ago a guy at work bought a brand new Mustang GT. Knowing that I'm a car guru he tossed me the keys and told me to go take it for a spin.
I gave it hell but it really didn't impress me. I guess I just expected more. After hopping back in my 8 I felt right at home and reassured that I made the right decision.
Don't get me wrong the Mustang is a nice car, but its not for everyone. I, for one, would rather be in a lighter, higher revving, and nicer looking car such as the RX-8 or even the S2000.
I gave it hell but it really didn't impress me. I guess I just expected more. After hopping back in my 8 I felt right at home and reassured that I made the right decision.
Don't get me wrong the Mustang is a nice car, but its not for everyone. I, for one, would rather be in a lighter, higher revving, and nicer looking car such as the RX-8 or even the S2000.
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Originally Posted by spork
The discontinued Pontiac Aztek placed third, after the Nissan Xterra, in the "Entry SUV" category.
Originally Posted by NgoRX8
True that. Everytime I see the 05 mustang I read the bak for the GT symbol or the front for the fogs. I usually don't see those.
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Originally Posted by snizzle
Yeah it's strange, i've always wondered why anyone would buy a V6 Mustang. The GT is in short supply from what I understand. Also, the fogs really do add to the appearance of the car.