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Old 08-28-2012, 02:22 PM
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I agree, I don't understand why some people don't like the dash on the CX-5 or the 6. Next best, in my opinion, is the Hyundai's dash.

Maybe its too plain for them, and they need it to be covered in buttons and dials that scream "technology". Personally, I would rather do without.

Then again, I like the interiors of Porsche's and BMW's, so what do I know?

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I must say, I like the dash on the 6. All the others illustrated here seem similar to each other like clones. The Mazda one looks pretty good (First impression). Nothing is wrong with the CX-5 dash, it's just a little plain.

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Confirmed, there is a 2.5l...with balance shaft like the 2.5 MZR currently in use.

The SKYACTIV-G 2.5, deployed for the first time in the new Mazda6, offers
maximum torque of 256 Nm/ 3,250 rpm and maximum output of 141 kW / 5,700 rpm. The
SKYACTIV 2.5 also features a balance shaft that contributes to the mitigation of engine
vibration and low noise output.
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Confirmed, there is a 2.5l...with balance shaft like the 2.5 MZR currently in use.

The SKYACTIV-G 2.5, deployed for the first time in the new Mazda6, offers
maximum torque of 256 Nm/ 3,250 rpm and maximum output of 141 kW / 5,700 rpm. The
SKYACTIV 2.5 also features a balance shaft that contributes to the mitigation of engine
vibration and low noise output.
What's it called Ash? In technical Mazda code for nerds like me and you. Is it P5 in relation to the PE engine? Or even PL?

I know you can figure it out fist. I have faith in you .

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Too early Paul...can't find anything...probably P something.
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Mazda officials have revealed new details about the 2013 Mazda6.

Speaking at the Moscow Motor Show, chief designer Akira Tamatani confirmed a coupe is under consideration. He told Autocar, "There is no decision, but I would love to make one." Tamatani added, "The first job is to make the saloon and estate, but from this position a coupe is not so far away."

Program manager Hiroshi Kajiyama also revealed the company is evaluating an all-wheel drive system. He told the magazine, "There are no set plans, but we are studying the possibility of introducing all-wheel drive - it would be a good weapon with which to establish the brand."

In another interview, Kajiyama said a high-performance Mazda6 is also being considered. He declined to go into specifics, but indicated the model could be lighter than the standard car.
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from mazda.de site (official info for Mazda Germany)

Die deutsche Markteinführung aller Versionen (Limousine und Kombi, Benzin- und Dieselmotoren) findet am 2. Februar 2013 bei den Mazda Händlern im Rahmen einer bundesweiten PremierenParty statt.

German launch (they means dealer's launch..for customers and test drive for everyone who ask, in those events the dealers are often open on Sunday)

2february 2013.

Sedan, Wagon, diesel, gasoline....

premiere of Wagon + Diesel range in Paris is also confirmed
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Mazda 6 Wagon

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Now for the COUPE!...soon!

Also confirmed the new 6 Wagon and Sedan on show in Paris also has the 2.2l Clean Diesel Engines...
So there will be 4 engine options (world-wide)
2.2 Diesel (high and low power)
2.0 SA-G Gas
2.5 SA-G Gas
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Mazda now owns a percentage of FORD.

FORD takes 100% managerial control and renames Flat Rock plant.
Now called Flat Rock Assembly Plant FORD.

The plant, which has been a joint venture with Mazda since 1992, continues to be owned by a 50/50 split between Ford and Mazda. No Mazda vehicles will be produced at the facility, according to officials. The plant originally opened in 1987 as Mazda Motor Manufacturing USA.


I guess seeing Mazda still owns 50% I wonder if this plant will make any money for Mazda, net profit wise?

Also Mazda now owns a percentage of FORD.
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Now for the COUPE!...soon!

Also confirmed the new 6 Wagon and Sedan on show in Paris also has the 2.2l Clean Diesel Engines...
So there will be 4 engine options (world-wide)
2.2 Diesel (high and low power)
2.0 SA-G Gas
2.5 SA-G Gas
What do you mean High and Low power?
no SA - D?
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
What do you mean High and Low power?
no SA - D?
There are two 2.2 SA Diesel's available in UK/Europe, one high and one low power.
Or 175 or 150 PS. (don't have the HP calculator with me).
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Yeah its too bad we are not getting the wagon though, they have no plans on bringing it to the USA, which means they want us to buy the pricier CX5, they better bring the CX5 in diesel then...

I'd would love to tow my rx7 racecar with a mazda...
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the US market is not a great environment to sell Wagons.
I think the CX-5 will do MUCH better then a 6 wagon.
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Confirmed, there is a 2.5l...with balance shaft like the 2.5 MZR currently in use.

The SKYACTIV-G 2.5, deployed for the first time in the new Mazda6, offers
maximum torque of 256 Nm/ 3,250 rpm and maximum output of 141 kW / 5,700 rpm. The
SKYACTIV 2.5 also features a balance shaft that contributes to the mitigation of engine
vibration and low noise output.
I hope the do the balance shaft better than Mitsubishi. I had one with a 2.6L and the shaft fell out of place.
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
I hope the do the balance shaft better than Mitsubishi. I had one with a 2.6L and the shaft fell out of place.
Current MZR 2.5l In Mazda 6 4 cylinder has always had a balance shaft without any issues that I know about.
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BTW: I don't think the 6 Wagon has been totally ruled out for North America?
My mail is it will still be sold in the USA (might not be at actual Sedan launch).

All depends on the 'success' of the new 6, if Mazda are flat out churning them out from Hofu you might see a delay.
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Current MZR 2.5l In Mazda 6 4 cylinder has always had a balance shaft without any issues that I know about.
2.3 MZR and turbo DISI have also. 2.2 MZR-CD too...

Nothing about problems of balance shafts.
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Mazda confirms ‘6’ engines for Australia

Mazda Australia has skipped the 2.0-litre version of the petrol engine that will be offered in Europe and Japan (and in the current CX-5), instead continuing with the larger and more powerful petrol unit that will go head to head with similar-sized rivals from Toyota, Honda, Ford, Holden and Subaru.

2.5l SA Petrol
2.2l SA Diesel

2.5l specs..
Part of its new SkyActiv fuel-saving engine family, the 2.5-litre petrol engine generates 138kW of power and 250Nm of torque – 10 per cent and 11 per cent more respectively than the current 125kW 2.5-litre petrol engine in the Mazda6.

Fuel consumption has been slashed by a huge 27 per cent, down from the current 8.8 litres per 100km for the current model with the old 2.5-litre four-cylinder petrol engine to just 6.4L/100km for the new-generation engine of the same size.

The 2.2-litre diesel engine produces 129kW or power and 420Nm of torque in the CX-5, which is less power but more torque than the current Mazda6 diesel (136kW/400Nm).

However, it is unclear if it will be any more fuel-efficient. In the CX5, the diesel uses 5.7L/100km, compared with current Mazda6 diesel’s 5.9L/100km in sedan guise.

ALL models with i-eLooP

The innovative i-Eloop (Intelligent Energy Loop) regenerative system comprises a new 12-25-volt variable voltage alternator connected with a low-resistance electric double-layer capacitor.

When the driver lifts off the accelerator and the vehicle decelerates, the alternator goes into 25-volt mode to charge the capacitor with recaptured kinetic energy within seconds.

A DC/DC converter steps down the electricity from 25V to 12V before it is distributed directly to the vehicle's electrical components, while also charging the car’s 12-volt battery when necessary.

Mazda says the i-Eloop system will be applied to other new models as they come into production.



Confirmed are also the Sedans and Wagons for Australian market, no 2.0l Engines (thank goodness).

IMO the US will still see the 6 Wagon...

Remember the old imported 6 in the US had Sedan, Hatch and Wagon, the Wagon was a steady seller, the ONLY reason why the US made 6 did not have a Wagon was because of tooling costs (making it wider/longer).

There are no obstacles in importing the all new 6 Wagon into the US market.

All we need now is the 2.5l in the CX-5, as it needs it.
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Originally Posted by ASH8
Mazda confirms ‘6’ engines for Australia
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Fuel consumption has been slashed by a huge 27 per cent, down from the current 8.8 litres per 100km for the current model with the old 2.5-litre four-cylinder petrol engine to just 6.4L/100km for the new-generation engine of the same size.

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However, it is unclear if it will be any more fuel-efficient. In the CX5, the diesel uses 5.7L/100km, compared with current Mazda6 diesel’s 5.9L/100km in sedan guise.
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If my math is right... that is 36 mpg for the 2.5 SA-G and 41 mpg for the 2.2 SA-D
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If my math is right... that is 36 mpg for the 2.5 SA-G and 41 mpg for the 2.2 SA-D
That 36 is not good enough to top the competition in the US. The slightly heavier Nissan Altima with 2.5 gets 38 mpg (Of course it has a CVT and will not come close in the fun to drive department). I will expect 46 or better on the diesel 6 although I was hoping to see over 50. We'll see.

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Originally Posted by Mazmart
That 36 is not good enough to top the competition in the US. The slightly heavier Nissan Altima with 2.5 gets 38 mpg (Of course it has a CVT and will not come close in the fun to drive department). I will expect 46 or better on the diesel 6 although I was hoping to see over 50. We'll see.

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Also the new 2013 Honda Accord has a DI 2.4L 185HP 181ft-lb tq mated to a CVT or 6spd manual that gets 36mpg hwy and 27mpg city. The new 3.5L V6 gets an auto and manual with 272hp 252lb-ft tq returning 21/34mpg, making it the most fuel efficient V6 sedan.

SkyA is up against some STIFF competition for the petrol market. Hence the reason I am completely for Mazda releasing the SkyA-D ASAP.
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Originally Posted by Mazmart
That 36 is not good enough to top the competition in the US. The slightly heavier Nissan Altima with 2.5 gets 38 mpg (Of course it has a CVT and will not come close in the fun to drive department). I will expect 46 or better on the diesel 6 although I was hoping to see over 50. We'll see.

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Going on the current 2.5 mzr city mpg of 25 mpg and Mazda's claimed % increases, I would assume the 36 mpg is the CITY mpg, or at least the combined mpg, not the highway mpg. same for the diesel. Given the weight and low cd for the new 6, I would bet the Highway mpg for the 2 engines would be north of 40 for the SA-G and north of 50 for the SA-D.
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BTW, the new 328i with the turbo 4 and 8 speed auto is rated at 36 hwy and 24 city. It goes 0-60 in 5.4 seconds and it weighs over 3400 pounds. Granted it does have a significantly higher starting price, the equipment and build quality makes it reasonable.
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Originally Posted by Mazmart
That 36 is not good enough to top the competition in the US. The slightly heavier Nissan Altima with 2.5 gets 38 mpg (Of course it has a CVT and will not come close in the fun to drive department). I will expect 46 or better on the diesel 6 although I was hoping to see over 50. We'll see.

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the 2.5 according to Nissan Australia gets 9.5l per 100km vs the 8.8l per 100km that Mazda is reporting

the Euro Accord fitted with the 2.4l engine sold in Australia is rated 8.9l per 100 versus 8.8per that Mazda is reporting. someone can go ahead and check the others


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