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To help out with funding, that's not a bad idea to have Audi/Volkswagon's help.

But yes, I believe this has been posted before.

 

Audi cant even make their own engines reliable.

 

I would have to disagree with that,
My friend has an S4 with 277,000 miles on it and it runs like a champ.
And how many VWs have like 500,000 miles on them.

 

Ive heard many audi engines burning oil.

 

my buddies 07 vw gti burns more oil than my rx8 does in between oil changes which started at 29k

 

Our 09 A6 burns about a quart every 2k miles. It also had to have the valves replaced at 10k....

 

+1.



Took this pic in my S4 a couple months ago and it still runs strong at 22 psi. There are a lot of similar stories or stories of higher mileage. The engines are pretty reliable, there's just a lot of other little things that can go wrong that will affect the engine operation until repaired. Many of those things are problems that don't show up until higher mileage anyways.

 

Whoa ! Audi owners !

ok, question for you (and other Audi owners)

You said Audi's are very reliable, I believe ya. but do you know if it applies to all Audi lines? Cuz I am thinking of getting a 2004 A8L with 75K on odo. what I'm afraid is the COST and complexity to replace broken parts. Cuz I read the 4.2 FSI engine will take ya about 2 hours just to replace an oil filter, cuz it's buried under the intake manifold.

Or you can just tell me what ya know about Audi would ya ?



mod : I probably shouldn't ask those stuff in this section of the forum BUT its an Mazda-Audi related thread, guess it don't matter right ?

 

I can't help you out too much outside of the B5 S4 or A4, honestly. I know there's quite a few "small things" that can go wrong that end up costing quite a bit when they all add up. A lot of people warn people to be ready to spend a lot if they plan on getting into the B5 S4. That said, I've only had a few minor things come up and they've been the kind of things that will go wrong on most cars. The B5's had a tendency to have sensors go bad which can get pricey, but I guess I've been lucky thus far. I'd check out audizine in the specific model sections. The B5 S4 requires the engine to be pulled to replace the turbos, which can be a huge pain in the *** when the turbos give out. Stuff like that will vary from model to model. I don't think the A4's had that problem but I'm not sure about that. Changing oil on my car is extremely easy... the oil pan and filter are basically right behind the bumper underneath the car. The filter is in somewhat of a tight spot but it really only makes it a little more difficult to fit a filter tool (if necessary) and even that's not much of a problem to deal with.

 

theres a customer that comes in and has a 99 chevy malibu with 320k on it. Does that make the chevy malibu a reliable car? hell no. Intake gaskets, rods knock waterpumps and they burn oil all the time. Thats not even including all the suspension problems also.

 

Just keep in mind that VW in America and Europe is totally different. It breaks down more on America, but also don't forget how much it breaks in Europe, and it's allot but people still drive them, pay more and they get less compared to others.

Audi is better with engines, although they share some TDI and petrol engines, but they are better made than VW crap. Audi breaks too, as well as any other brand, but if you love it, than you will repair it.

Partnership with Audi would be nice, as long as Audi injects the funding, keeping the Mazda to do their research and building

 

^^ well said

 

The engines are consistently reliable which is the point I was making. There are related components that are common problems, but most of that wont stop it from running, just not in optimal condition. I'd say a majority of the B5 S4's that I've seen are at or above 100k miles and still on the original engine. Plenty of other parts have been replaced for performance reasons or for repairs, but the engines are usually original. Most of the engine rebuilds I've seen have been for performance reasons. The stock rods are likely to bend at around 500 hp so those are kind of a requirement for anything beyond a basic build.

 

Audi's going rotary...wow

 

They already were rotary. NSU invented it, Audi bought them, and then VW bought Audi. Granted that's the kind of comparison Ford used when boasting about all of their incredible classic cars and included the Jaguar E-type and Aston DB9. They can't do that anymore.

 

^^^ +1 Smart man you are

 

i'm sorry ... it just tickles me that people on a rotary-engined car forum are slamming another car manufacturer because they're unrelaible and that they burn oil. this can't be scripted.



on a more serious note, Audi has always been one of my favorite marques. i didn't care much for a lot of their cars in the late 80s, but those aside, they've been one of my favorites since the original Quattro. i have an APB in my garage that i plan to find a home in a B5 or C4. with maintenance, i can at least speak for models based on those two chassis' as being reliable.

 

I know right! I was like I wonder if I can think of another company/motor people say that about...

 

How does removing the spark plugs make sealing the combustion chamber any easier ?

 

 

Ever look at the carbon stripe at the spark plug holes on the rotor housing ....

 

/\ yeah . Wouldn't have thought that spot was a major barrier to sealing though ....

 

Picture the apex seal over the top of the sparkplug hole. Gas is free to make a little V turn and go right past the seal. Built-in leak! This will have a bigger effect on a smaller than 13b engine, because the sparkplug hole size remains the same even though the chamber size is reduced, meaning the leak grows proportionately larger.