Mazda Googles Pontiac AHAHAHA!
01-31-2006, 11:13 AM
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all the reviews I have read said that the miata felt nimbler but the pontaic was faster around what ever corse they set up. so I dont think its that the other magz had differnt results just that the enjoy the miata becsue it feels so good.
01-31-2006, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Hutchroro
all the reviews I have read said that the miata felt nimbler but the pontaic was faster around what ever corse they set up. so I dont think its that the other magz had differnt results just that the enjoy the miata becsue it feels so good.
01-31-2006, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Spin9k
Unfortunately NOT less nimble (see GRM test).
Truth be told, I went & did a test drive (alone) with a MX5 top of the line version about a month ago. To boot, I even got paid some money by Mazda to do that. And although at the time I didn't say much about it, ("Nice car, fancy key, thanks!) ) I had the feeling of experiencing the "Emporer's new clothes".
IOW "where's the meat"? or "is that all there is?" was what I came away with. Yea it had nice turn in, but the shifter was rubbery & vague (compared to my RP short shifter), the view from the seat bas bathtub-like (compared to my stock 8 seat), the suspension/tire feel was bouncy rubber band soft and floaty, "Yes bouncy-floaty" and not just a little (compared to my 8 with WL Sways and RT-615s).
I got back in my 8 and left the dealership feeling like I truly had the 'real sports car from Mazda'. My slightly modded 8 may not be perfect, but compared to the stock MX5 - give me a break - not in 1,000,000 years would I swap.
The GRMS said that aftermarket suspension guys would be making a killing on the 'new Miata' and they are spot on.
Truth be told, I went & did a test drive (alone) with a MX5 top of the line version about a month ago. To boot, I even got paid some money by Mazda to do that. And although at the time I didn't say much about it, ("Nice car, fancy key, thanks!) ) I had the feeling of experiencing the "Emporer's new clothes".
IOW "where's the meat"? or "is that all there is?" was what I came away with. Yea it had nice turn in, but the shifter was rubbery & vague (compared to my RP short shifter), the view from the seat bas bathtub-like (compared to my stock 8 seat), the suspension/tire feel was bouncy rubber band soft and floaty, "Yes bouncy-floaty" and not just a little (compared to my 8 with WL Sways and RT-615s).
I got back in my 8 and left the dealership feeling like I truly had the 'real sports car from Mazda'. My slightly modded 8 may not be perfect, but compared to the stock MX5 - give me a break - not in 1,000,000 years would I swap.
The GRMS said that aftermarket suspension guys would be making a killing on the 'new Miata' and they are spot on.
I've read at least 3 others that say otherwise, and give the MX-5 faster times in pretty much everything.
I guess only time will tell once people start racing their Solstices.
01-31-2006, 12:45 PM
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i drove one of the new mx5s at the zoom-zoom live event here a few months back and incredibly underwhelmed by it, especially when compared to the rx8. the mx5 had considerably less "get-up and go" and i was surprised by the amount of body roll that it had.
from talking to other people at the event, the reviews were mixed. some greatly enjoyed the rx8 more and others enjoyed the mx5 more...and most of those were simply because the mx5 was a vert.
i'd still like to drive a solstice/sky. it'd be interesting to see how they compare. and on a side note, i like the styling of the sky much more than the solstice.
from talking to other people at the event, the reviews were mixed. some greatly enjoyed the rx8 more and others enjoyed the mx5 more...and most of those were simply because the mx5 was a vert.
i'd still like to drive a solstice/sky. it'd be interesting to see how they compare. and on a side note, i like the styling of the sky much more than the solstice.
01-31-2006, 01:41 PM
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BRILLIANT marketing by Mazda!
GM Marketing has got to be so pissed.
GM Marketing has got to be so pissed.
01-31-2006, 01:51 PM
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When I drove the Mx5 at the zoomzoomlive thing, the car felt really fun and tossable. It was very enjoyable car to play around with compared to the Solstice. Solstice wasn't a bad car for terrible handler, it just didn't feel as fun though. Didn't get a chance to play with the Solstice on a closed track but street driving, it wasn't really as lively.
01-31-2006, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cleoent
i just googled pontiac and nothing mazda comes up, has pontiac done something?
01-31-2006, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
i thought i started a thread about marketing tactics- cant seem to find it. anyone seen it around here?
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01-31-2006, 02:31 PM
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i googled jjust "pontiac" just now and got this
http://www.google.com/search?client=...=Google+Search
2nd premium ad in the blue top section is the mazda ad
http://www.google.com/search?client=...=Google+Search
2nd premium ad in the blue top section is the mazda ad
01-31-2006, 02:46 PM
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hmm...i was just refreshing the page, and when the mazda ad wasn't present on the top sponsored ad area, but was in the side bar sponsored area. and when it was present in the top, it wasn't in the side...but it was there everytime, in one of the two locations.
02-02-2006, 10:52 AM
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well to take my thread furthur askew i offer this MX-5 vs Solstice comparo
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fsb/f...02/01/8368211/
i think its quite clear that the 2 cars are close enough objectively that it comes down to the subjective preferences of the reviewers which they pick.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fsb/f...02/01/8368211/
But the Solstice was hurried to market after its debut at the 2003 Detroit auto show, and that shows in the execution: The cloth top is a bit more cumbersome, and there is practically no trunk space. Though the formula for the MX-5 hasn't changed much over the years, it has been subtly, flawlessly refined.
Americans are fortunate to have two such appealing sports cars arrive on the market at the same time, but only the MX-5 is seductive enough that I would consider moving to the suburbs merely to have the pleasure of driving one to work every day.
Americans are fortunate to have two such appealing sports cars arrive on the market at the same time, but only the MX-5 is seductive enough that I would consider moving to the suburbs merely to have the pleasure of driving one to work every day.
02-02-2006, 11:28 AM
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02-02-2006, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bascho
No dual exhaust!??!?!
02-02-2006, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bascho
Is anyone mass producing them? Has anyone ever seen a V8 MX-5 in action? I bet that thing is fast as ****
I've seen some custom conversions.
02-02-2006, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by snizzle
Yes, similiar conversions have been done with the GM V8 and the Miata.
Is anyone mass producing them? Has anyone ever seen a V8 MX-5 in action? I bet that thing is fast as ****
02-02-2006, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
i think its quite clear that the 2 cars are close enough objectively that it comes down to the subjective preferences of the reviewers which they pick.
in terms of subjective styling, both inside and out, I prefer the Miata though. the front of the Solstice looks like it's going to shave me (!).
I'll reserve judgement for the Sky until I can experience it first-hand.
02-03-2006, 09:25 AM
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Both cars are evenly matched but too small for me. Why can't they bump them up to the size fo the 8? Reviews I've read say the Miata is more fun to drive. The Soltice has lunch box trunk space when top is down. I"ve boycotted GM since the 80's and will never buy one as long as there is a comparable import. I'd take the Miata first anyday. You know it's a great car with a history.
Hats off to Mazda's marketing savy. That is a cool trick they did.
Hats off to Mazda's marketing savy. That is a cool trick they did.
02-03-2006, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Roaddemon
Both cars are evenly matched but too small for me. Why can't they bump them up to the size fo the 8?
02-03-2006, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
you want a Kabura! see berns comments here https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...24#post1225824