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Old 03-20-2007, 10:45 PM
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Mazda to increase production by 15% and sell Hydrogen/Electric Hybrid by 2008

TOKYO (XFN-ASIA) - Mazda Motor Corp plans to increase by fiscal 2008 domestic production by about 15 pct from the fiscal 2006 level and introduce a hydrogen-electric hybrid vehicle by that year, the Nikkei business daily

reported without citing sources.

Mazda will give details of plans to increase production capacity and focus resources on green vehicles in its medium-term business plan to start in the year to March 2008, which will be announced tomorrow.

The Nikkei said Mazda plans to run its two domestic plants at full capacity. At its Yamaguchi Prefecture factory, it is set to upgrade painting equipment, which has been an obstacle to increasing output. Domestic production, which is estimated at 990,000 units for fiscal 2006, is to rise to 1.05 mln in fiscal 2007 and reach 1.15 mln in the following financial year.

As it says the business plan will be out tomorrow. I hadnt heard the paint booth was such a bottle neck. I guess its the last to get their more eco -freindly 3 layer wet paint system

http://www.sme.org/cgi-bin/get-press...021387&TE&&SME

for brillo so he can get the paper http://www.sae.org/technical/papers/2004-01-1668

http://www.greenbiz.com/news/news_th...m?NewsID=26587
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I hadnt heard the paint booth was such a bottle neck.
You would think, that as horrible as Mazda paint is, that it would come out of the factory at a wicked-fast pace!
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hydrogen-electric by 2008?!?!? thats pretty crazy, and it should be the hydrogen renesis! it'll def be a JDM only car... and even so, who would buy such a car?
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It will be the New Mazda 6 Hydo/Electric.
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...rticleID=37031
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I have only visited one plant, the NUMMI in the Bay Area. Tacomas and Corollas spend nearly half of their 24 hour production being painted. It takes a long time to make it perfect; the rest of the stuff is quite simple. But then again, Toyota is known for its production line, so maybe they have streamlined the process more than others.
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links to the new mid term plan

and id just like to Empasize this part of the plan

(4) Rotary engines
- Introduce a new generation gasoline rotary engine with enhanced power and fuel efficiency toward the start of the decade beginning in 2010.



http://www.carpages.co.uk/mazda/mazda-plan-22-03-07.asp

http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html...icle&sid=50877

and i particularly like the headline from Jalopnik

Mazda Says Screw You USA And Europe, Seeks 23% Increase In Global Sales
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yay! RX9 in 2011 or 2012!!!!!! how exciting!
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and that would be the Hydrogen/Hybrid Mazda5/Premacy


(3) Material technologies and production technologies
- Expand the applications of carbon neutral bioplastics that were developed in collaboration with government, industry and academia. Utilize bioplastics in the Premacy Hydrogen RE Hybrid that is scheduled to begin commercial leasing in 2008.
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Originally Posted by zoom44
(4) Rotary engines
- Introduce a new generation gasoline rotary engine with enhanced power and fuel efficiency toward the start of the decade beginning in 2010.


Is Mazda listening?
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Originally Posted by zoom44
links to the new mid term plan

and id just like to Empasize this part of the plan

(4) Rotary engines
- Introduce a new generation gasoline rotary engine with enhanced power and fuel efficiency toward the start of the decade beginning in 2010.

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WHAT WHAT WHAT?!?!?!??!?!?

it does say GASOLINE rotary engine!

oh, and what about this:
(3) Automatic transmissions
- Introduce a new automatic transmission with improved fuel efficiency and performance comparable to that of a manual transmission toward the start of the decade beginning in 2010.

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GREAT news Zoom!! I know 2010 seem realy far out but it's about when I'll be ready for my RX-9.

I know "enhanced power" can mean one of a million things but it's nice to continue seeing signs from Mazda that the rotary will live on. (hydrogen, TC, SC, who knows.... )
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Does this mean their just holding out on the MS8 until it can be hydrogen powered?


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Wonderful news from Mazda.

I just hope our renesis gets a technological update before 2010 though.

For those who think the rotary is going to die...

Cheers

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INTERESTING....But....personally I just cant see how Mazda are going to more than halve the RENESIS 'CO2' emmissions...without a duel fuel or hybrid as IMO it is impossible on just gasoline alone...

Even BMW boss said that NONE of Europe's luxury brands can meet the NEW 2010 regulations...

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...9013/1528/FREE

"BMW"s Norbert Reithofer claims there "isn't a single luxury manufacturer" that could meet the 2010 emissions plan ".

As far as the "Screw You" Info, YES , Mazda NA growth/sales has been PATHETIC, when compared to all other nations, China is an obvious massive growth market for Mazda.

Much of the rest of the news is not that NEW, we already know of the Mazda 5 RE Hydro..

What is interesting is the claim that Mazda are going to improve HP of their Hydro rotaries by 40% and better KPL economy... well they need to as the present generation is just not commercially viable, or consumer acceptable.

The rest of the news has either already happened or just Promo-FLUFF..
The "improved" 4 Banger economy engines sound interesting and the domestic Idle Stop System.

But very interesting Charlie..
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I hope Mazda finally gets the sales in NA that it deserves. It builds much more interesting cars than Toyota, GM, Chrysler and Ford.
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Originally Posted by CarAndDriver
I hope Mazda finally gets the sales in NA that it deserves. It builds much more interesting cars than Toyota, GM, Chrysler and Ford.
Yeah, this is what I cant understand the product is there...so what is up with MNAO Marketing...or are the Dealers that bad!....something is not right.

Mazda US should be selling at least 400,000 units a year.
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Oh yeah!
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great news for us rotary fans tho

ps your avatar's too distracting mazdamaniac... lol
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best news I've heard in a long time. I'm kinda glade it's 2010, by then I'll be ready for another car. If it came out now, I think I'd be pissed off.
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Yeah no crap! I need time to finish paying off my 8 bc this puppy's not going anywhere! Then I want to get an FD and buy my kid a used Corolla (she's gonna kill me!). Wait- I need a bigger garage! Where will I fit a 7, 8 and 9? Good excuse for a new house, too! Alright... time for me to wake up.
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I bet we will see a 2009MY (at some point late next year) Mazdaspeed TC RX8 before they introduce the next "rotary engine", with a limited production run, there is really now downside for Mazda.

I want to hear about the Kabura, I've always felt if we didn't see a prototype car this year that the odds of production go down, we have one more "concept" yet to be seen this year, let us hope its a polished prototype MX-3 at the Toyoko Autoshow.
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intresting but i think i will wait for more news to pass judgement, tired of all this build up for nothing.
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I just finished reading the article. It seems to me that they really wanna develop the rotary engine for burning hydrogen. From the enthusiasts' pov, wtf, we dont care. Hydrogen imo will only get more attention in the future, even tho it really sucks as an ICE fuel. no doubt there will be more funding put into hydrogen research, and if mazda's focus is to develop a hydrogen RE, this research WILL benefit gasoline rotary engines. for example, if they look into a 15B 3-rotor configuration for hydrogen, i am sure the cost to do more research on one that burns gasoline will be MUCH MUCH lower.

Edit: They might even getting fundings from an outside source, ie. Japanese government. Mazda should be ahead in hydrogen development in Japan, RE gives them a huge advantage.
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Originally Posted by brillo
I want to hear about the Kabura, I've always felt if we didn't see a prototype car this year that the odds of production go down, we have one more "concept" yet to be seen this year, let us hope its a polished prototype MX-3 at the Toyoko Autoshow.
Me too. Mazda said the Kabura was "protoype-only" when it came out and would decide based on reaction if they're going to produce it. I think reception has been positive, and they should put an RE in there. I think/hope it would sell like the first RX-7.
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What really caught my eye was this goal!
- Achieve a weight reduction of approximately 100 kg for the new Mazda2/Demio due for launch in 2007, as compared to the current model.
http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html...icle&sid=50877
Thats 220lbs! If Mazda can do that on the 2 then hopefully apply that same technology to all of their models, thats huge.


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