rotary crazy

the rx-4 was not a replacement for the rx-3, the rx-5 was not a replacement for the rx-4 and the rx-7 was not a replacement for any of this cars in fact most of this cars were in production at the same time.

the rx-8 is not a replacement for the rx-7 the replacement for the rx-7 will be call RX-7 like the firts gen was replace by the fc and the fd replace the fc.

that its if mazda decides to make another rx-7.the rx-7 prototipe was seen by a lot of people in japan mazda headquarters in 2004 it looks somewhat like the kabura but the front its diferent and its a 2 door but mazda pull the plug on it.

Sephiroth

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Sephiroth

no good. we need a 7 now.

Tirminyl

No. Mazda needs an entry level coupe. All they have are sedans. The only coupe is the 8 and thats not entry level.

playdoh43

a successful entry level coupe will make them way more profit than a successful premium sports car. entry level coupe makes sense and its what should be made.

ZoomZoomH

iTrader: (1)

i think an entry level $20k REAR-WHEEL-DRIVE coupe will really shake up the current FWD-dominant 'sport compact' market, aimed squarely at young people

time to teach the youngin's what a REAL sportscar should feel like

Tirminyl

Exactly. We want Mazda to increase their market share, profit, and customer base so they can in turn give us a 4 rotor super car...or go back to their V12 super car plans. It's all about the big picture

CoreDump

Bingo! We have two winners!. I think Mazda must grow and make more money before a niche high performance coupe make sense to them again. I think right now, an entry level coupe ranks higher in their priority list than a true replacement for the 7.

rotary crazy

and that sporty coupe can be the platform for a hi performance 2 door sport car, 3 models sharing the same platform ( rx-8, miata and kabura) will get the cost of this car way down.

RotaryGoober

Actually I would like them to bring back the Amanti concept of developing a large luxury sedan. It seems that the leading edge of Mazda's styling focus is aimed at the *boy racer* crowd. I understand *zoom zoom* and *soul of a sportscar* ... but it's getting a bit long in the tooth. We will have to wait and see how a Turbo 4 cylinder crossover vehicle hits with the general Rx300, MDX, Pilot buying public... With the Millenia gone Mazda doesn't have a luxury sedan flagship as the other Japanese brands offer. Bring in the high line buyer and interest will flow to the other models. And while they are at it bring in an all Mazda pick up. That one is even longer over due...

ZoomZoomH

iTrader: (1)

no on truck or luxury sedan for Mazda, trying to do that and forgetting their sports car roots almost killed mazda in the mid 90's, you stick to what made your cars unique and appealing

RotaryGoober

Mazda gets in trouble when they try to *high tech* themselves (Millenia KJ, Rx7 FD and possibly the 8, the jury is still out on that one) into the market place. When they stick to staight forward vehicles, (Miata, Millenia KL, and Protege) they do fine. Get rid of the Ford Trucks and Ford auto transmissions and the 90's would have been much better with sales and owner loyality. And while they are at it give the *6* a more conventional look so it will compete head to head with Camry and Accord instead of losing market share to them...

zoom44

the 6 is getting an entire makeover for 2007- bigger and leaner

Deslock

This article claims target weight is less than 2400 pounds (for purposes of comparison, the RX-8 gained ~200 pounds from the RX-EVOLV concept).

I'm mucho disappointed that they dropped the rotary for this, but it's a very interesting vehicle. I'd consider getting one if:

• its weight is under 2500 pounds
• its price is under $20k
• it drives like a Miata (handling, braking, steering, shifter, road feel, etc)
• the front pax seat has an airbag kill switch

Spin9k

OXYMORON - BIGGER and LEANER? That sounds like Detroit speak How'd they gonna do that?

zoom44

sorry i meant leaner visually

CoreDump

Hahaha, well, it is not completely impossible. You can interpret leaner as leaner looking or lighter. Let's say leaner means lighter in this case, I am sure it is possible to create a bigger yet lighter car with today's technology. You know, advanced alloy, computer aided design, stronger welding, etc. In fact I think the current Subaru Legacy is indeed lighter than its predecessor. Not sure if it is bigger, but it looks at least as big as the previous one to me...

The 6 needs to be bigger to compete with Camry and Accord. It would be nice if Mazda manages the keep the weight down.

Apex Eater

Has anyone noticed the windshield? While I really like the looks of this car I can't see it as anything other than an exercise in design. I would to see what happens the first time you get a crack in that window...

Tirminyl

It is a concept car. It is supposed to be wild and crazy and loaded with stuff a production car will never see. Im amazed that so many people expect this car to be production and street legal as a concept car.

^^Not directed to you Apex Eater...I just see those complaints on every single board I visit.

Apex Eater

I agree mdaj, I am suprised at the number of people who think this car will be out in 2008

I have to say though there are parts I would love to see on future cars, the rear view is excellent.

Deslock

There are always changes from concept to production. If the Kabura gets the greenlight, say goodbye to the single piece glass windshield/roof, streamlined interior, tiny mirrors, 19" and 20" wheels, and dashboard gauge cluster (especially the speedometer). That headlight assembly will get toned down. The rear hatch doesn't look accessible enough. Etc.

But this one is exciting because there were rumors a few months back that Mazda's upcoming "RX-3" concept was likely to be headed for production. If that's true, whatever the changes are, they should be mostly aesthetic (unless Mazda reverses their decision about using the rotary).

Tirminyl

Lol, I know. With Mazda you have to add 2 to the year they state. So if they say 2008 then it will release 2010.

CoreDump

Well, the CX-7 concept shown last year became a reality this year. Of course the CX-7 concept looked more production ready than the Kabura, but the Kabura's underpinning uses all existing parts. So if the Kabura indeed gets the green light, I don't think it will take too long for it to be produced. Of course you will see toned down exterior, compeletely different interior, different name, etc. I hope Mazda keeps the 3+1 desgin. As long as they keep the RWD and keep it under 20K (Sicon tC segment, as the designer said towards the end of this interview http://www.caranddriver.com/article....ticle_id=10554). I think Mazda has more plan for the Kabura concept than just showing something cool on the show floor.

playdoh43

i have a feeling they will build it as a entry level coupe, i think hyundai is also trying to convert their next gen tiuron to RWD.

tiggerlee

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet. I searched this thread and came up with nothing.

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edit: Ok so I now see it was mentioned in the other Kabura threads. My bad.