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Originally Posted by JeRKy 8 Owner
Here's a former RX-8 owner's take on the Mazdaspeed 6:
This post came from http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showt...hp?t=123616428
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This issue has been around for decades: sporty cars vs muscle cars. Yes, sports cars have improved in the HP department and sedans have improved in the handling department, but the two still haven't quite met (I'm old enough to remember sports cars that rarely reached 100 HP while muscle car sedans had as much as 425 HP, or more).
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#29
wish I could have an '03 body style Mazda 6, with AWD turbo....
The hood is also incredibly heavy, so going to an FMIC would also let you swap it with a CF one and shave off about 40-50 lbs (according to owners). Just get that painted at the same time.
Then you'd be left with a completely stock looking 03/04, that weighs about 75 less then a standard mps 6 (even more so if you drop the stupid heavy 18's for lightweight 17's), and hauls complete ***.
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While I have not driven a Mazdaspeed 6, I did have a WRX for 3.5 years and it was a great car in the wet, especially in the scenario of big HP RWD cars trying to keep up! However, I feel that I can carry more speed and actually make better time in the 8 than I could in the WRX. The 8 is deceptively fast, in that you don't feel the pull, but when you look at the Speedo you are almost always going faster than you think.
I have had a run in with some Mustang GT's and sure the 8 can not match their accleration, but it can move quick enough to keep them in site and then out brake them and take turns a heck of a lot faster, some of this is based on the driver as was discussed earlier in the thread and some on the car. I have had some experience with racing schools and high performance driving scenarios and I think that this coupled with the abilities of the 8 does translate to certain gains in real world driving. Your results may vary, but I feel that the 8 is a superb sports car and will always put a smile on the face of the owner at the end of every day. Now if my wife wanted a Mazdaspeed 6, I think I would allow that!
I have had a run in with some Mustang GT's and sure the 8 can not match their accleration, but it can move quick enough to keep them in site and then out brake them and take turns a heck of a lot faster, some of this is based on the driver as was discussed earlier in the thread and some on the car. I have had some experience with racing schools and high performance driving scenarios and I think that this coupled with the abilities of the 8 does translate to certain gains in real world driving. Your results may vary, but I feel that the 8 is a superb sports car and will always put a smile on the face of the owner at the end of every day. Now if my wife wanted a Mazdaspeed 6, I think I would allow that!
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Originally Posted by mdaj
Here is the same former 8 owner impressions after break-in- http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showp...70&postcount=5
#33
I like this quote in the one guys signature. Smart.
And, is the leather on the head rest all loosey goosey here?
Originally Posted by showtege
I hit 110-130 all the time. Just because your car cant handel going that fast or you as the driver dont have the skillz to go that fast is no reason to be a *** hole. Maby if you wernt smoking weed or have weed in your car like a "idiot" you wouldnt be so perinoid about going fast. And if you think proteges arnt made to go fast than you dont watch GT or SCCA racing very often.
Why dont you by some Enzite to make your ***** larger than you might have the ballz to go 130.
Why dont you by some Enzite to make your ***** larger than you might have the ballz to go 130.
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Haven't read through the whole thread but isn't this Mazda's plan:
2003 - Mazda 6
2004 - RX-8, Mazda 3
2005 - Mazdaspeed Miata
2006 - Mazdaspeed 6
2007 - Mazdaspeed 3
2008 - Mazdaspeed RX-8
2003 - Mazda 6
2004 - RX-8, Mazda 3
2005 - Mazdaspeed Miata
2006 - Mazdaspeed 6
2007 - Mazdaspeed 3
2008 - Mazdaspeed RX-8
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Hrm, lets see...
1.) That white interior will look like *** in no time
2.) He's totally full of **** about the Benz
3.) He's a moron for making claims about acceleration before he's even broken the car in and redlined it
4.) I don't think we'll ever see a Mazdaspeed RX-8, at least not one with FI
5.) The stock wheels are awful, then the guy goes out and buys Motegi's, nice choice, when do the neons and chrome gasdoor go in?
1.) That white interior will look like *** in no time
2.) He's totally full of **** about the Benz
3.) He's a moron for making claims about acceleration before he's even broken the car in and redlined it
4.) I don't think we'll ever see a Mazdaspeed RX-8, at least not one with FI
5.) The stock wheels are awful, then the guy goes out and buys Motegi's, nice choice, when do the neons and chrome gasdoor go in?
#39
Whoa, I missed a whole bunch of his posts. Apparently he thinks the 8 is almost a full second faster than the MS6 to 60,
Then he quote the MS6 0-60 as 6.1, which would mean the 8 does it in the low 5's!!! Could this guy be more full of ****?
f you don't believe me, just check out the factory 0-60 times, the RX-8 is almost a full second faster.
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
Whoa, I missed a whole bunch of his posts. Apparently he thinks the 8 is almost a full second faster than the MS6 to 60,
Then he quote the MS6 0-60 as 6.1, which would mean the 8 does it in the low 5's!!! Could this guy be more full of ****?
Then he quote the MS6 0-60 as 6.1, which would mean the 8 does it in the low 5's!!! Could this guy be more full of ****?
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taken from here: http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdr...azdaspeed6.htm
"Acceleration is awesome. As tested by the Automobile Journalists Association of Canada (AJAC) at the recent Car of the Year "Testfest", the Mazdaspeed6 had a 0 to 100 km/h time of just 5.5 seconds – quicker than an Audi A4 3.2, BMW 330i, and Lexus IS350 - and 0.1 seconds faster than the smaller, lighter Subaru WRX. AJAC didn't test the Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Limited this year, but Subaru's official 0 to 60 mph time is 5.7 seconds.
From 80 to 120 km/h, the Mazdaspeed6 took just 4.3 seconds, quicker than all of its rivals."
and
"The brakes are phenomenal. In independent AJAC braking tests from 100 km/h to 0 km/h, the Mazdaspeed6 stopped in 35.2 metres, 2 metres shorter than a 2006 Corvette Z06!"
awesome!
"Acceleration is awesome. As tested by the Automobile Journalists Association of Canada (AJAC) at the recent Car of the Year "Testfest", the Mazdaspeed6 had a 0 to 100 km/h time of just 5.5 seconds – quicker than an Audi A4 3.2, BMW 330i, and Lexus IS350 - and 0.1 seconds faster than the smaller, lighter Subaru WRX. AJAC didn't test the Subaru Legacy 2.5 GT Limited this year, but Subaru's official 0 to 60 mph time is 5.7 seconds.
From 80 to 120 km/h, the Mazdaspeed6 took just 4.3 seconds, quicker than all of its rivals."
and
"The brakes are phenomenal. In independent AJAC braking tests from 100 km/h to 0 km/h, the Mazdaspeed6 stopped in 35.2 metres, 2 metres shorter than a 2006 Corvette Z06!"
awesome!
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"The brakes are phenomenal. In independent AJAC braking tests from 100 km/h to 0 km/h, the Mazdaspeed6 stopped in 35.2 metres, 2 metres shorter than a 2006 Corvette Z06!"
What does brake testing mean anyway? At least as far as I know there are no new cars that are not capable to block the wheels (no ABS) when braking very hard. So it's really a tire test and not a brake test.
I doubt the 6 has better tires or more rubber per weight than the Corvette.
#44
I own a plain ol Mazda6(well the wife does, while I have the 8) and this Mazdaspeed 6 is going to be a great car if the one I have is any indication imo. I could see myself in it for sure and we shouldn't feel a bit jealous. The same argument everyone uses as to why they like the 8 better then streetlight to streetlight performance applies because handling will not compare. But the Mazda 6 is a headturner also and I cannot wait to get behind the wheel. I am so far under on her 6 I may talk her into trading up. A Mazdaspeed6 and a RX8 in the garage. I ain't hating on anything Mazda puts out.
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Originally Posted by TexasKyle
Is anyone else irritated that the '06 has 274 turbocharged HP while we, the faithful, CRY for some sort of FI for our 8 from Mazda? I love my car, forever and a day. Please...no..."If you want a MazdaSpeed6 then go get one and shut up" crap. Just saying....aren't WE supposed to be Mazda's "Sports" car? Now a "Family" car made by our very own Mazda can even out class us. Just makes me sad....
Oh, and not that I want it on a 8, but it has AWD too.......for about 28K. What are we? Chopped liver?
The Rotary Gods (not to be confused with out very own RotaryGod) are not smiling on us!
Oh, and not that I want it on a 8, but it has AWD too.......for about 28K. What are we? Chopped liver?
The Rotary Gods (not to be confused with out very own RotaryGod) are not smiling on us!
#49
Ya I kinda of doubt that a MPS 6 could ever outbrake a C6 Z06, especially since the Z06 is both lighter, and has considerably more rubber on the ground.
The MPS 6 is a great car, but its not capable of defeating the laws of physics, no matter how many smilies you use.
The MPS 6 is a great car, but its not capable of defeating the laws of physics, no matter how many smilies you use.
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Originally Posted by neit_jnf
"Acceleration is awesome. As tested by the Automobile Journalists Association of Canada (AJAC) at the recent Car of the Year "Testfest", the Mazdaspeed6 had a 0 to 100 km/h time of just 5.5 seconds – quicker than an Audi A4 3.2, BMW 330i, and Lexus IS350
I still want to see what C&D and Motortrend score the Mazdaspeed 6 before I accept the canucks' ratings.