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Old 03-29-2010 | 12:27 PM
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MS3 Competition...kind of

Ok, so it's only in Europeon markets (of course), and limited production to 500...but still...345 hp?! That's a mean hatchback! I know it's fwd, but I would think that amount of hp and high torque would mean closer to a 5 second 0-60, not 5.6 like article says.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-focus-rs500.html

Edit: the rear window is super angled...almost like a tc or rsx kind-of-hatch, not as upright as the ms3, or the standard focus from what i remember. weird; aerodymanic reason i'm sure.

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Old 03-29-2010 | 12:42 PM
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I'll take a Cosworth Escort. Too bad we never got those though, kicks the **** out of a SVT Focus. But hey, it's still a Focus.

But this bitch is bad though.


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Old 03-29-2010 | 01:07 PM
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yeah, i think they did a great job on the "mean" factor. thanks for adding the pic 9k!
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Such a shame Ford keeps these cars out of the US Market. They would sell well here and never understood their decision.
Old 03-30-2010 | 12:56 AM
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We get cheap speed in other forms much much cheaper than overseas. Examples camaro, vette, stang, goat. I understand different car different class etc. But if ford brought this model here to replace the new focus im sre this car could easily cost 25-30k. A base model v6 stang in germany for instance is very pricey as well. We're talking ford Europe, not the shittier one we all know. Sucks; I saw quite a few Fords in mexico we dont get. Monaro and the Focus were sharp
Old 03-30-2010 | 09:12 AM
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Umm, this car would not sell well in the States.

MS3 is targeted at a younger crowd who's taking out their first auto loan, which with a decent job out of college isn't too hard to take out a loan for $25,000.

Regular Focus RS translates into about $38,000 USD if converted from Euro, which I'm sure will drop to about $30,000 to $35,000 because of the economy, Ford badge, etc etc.

Price tag alone will hinder the sale. I'm not saying the young adults of America wouldn't welcome a 300+ HP FWD aftermarket wet dream, but I'm just saying able to afford one would be a totally different story.

As to people that can afford the price tag? Chances are those older folks will stick with a traditional RWD sports cars like the 370Z, Z4 and Boxters of the world..
Old 03-30-2010 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MICHGoBlue
Umm, this car would not sell well in the States.

MS3 is targeted at a younger crowd who's taking out their first auto loan, which with a decent job out of college isn't too hard to take out a loan for $25,000.

Regular Focus RS translates into about $38,000 USD if converted from Euro, which I'm sure will drop to about $30,000 to $35,000 because of the economy, Ford badge, etc etc.

Price tag alone will hinder the sale. I'm not saying the young adults of America wouldn't welcome a 300+ HP FWD aftermarket wet dream, but I'm just saying able to afford one would be a totally different story.

As to people that can afford the price tag? Chances are those older folks will stick with a traditional RWD sports cars like the 370Z, Z4 and Boxters of the world..

It would be ALOT less than 30k-35k in USD. Remember premium pricing for euro cannot be adapted for the US market.
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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
It would be ALOT less than 30k-35k in USD. Remember premium pricing for euro cannot be adapted for the US market.
How can it be a lot less than 30-35 grand? Besides the top notch build quality, a few new technologies were also introduced in the Focus RS like its front wheel steering system that tames the violent torque steer that plagues the MS3? I mean, 30 thousand dollars is a great bang for the buck when it comes to what you get in this car.

Unless Ford wants to take losses just so they have a marquee performance vehicle to appeal the younger demographics for brand image and publicity, and hoping for brand loyalty when the boomers age.
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euro fords to me have always looked cool
Old 03-30-2010 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MICHGoBlue
How can it be a lot less than 30-35 grand? Besides the top notch build quality, a few new technologies were also introduced in the Focus RS like its front wheel steering system that tames the violent torque steer that plagues the MS3? I mean, 30 thousand dollars is a great bang for the buck when it comes to what you get in this car.

Unless Ford wants to take losses just so they have a marquee performance vehicle to appeal the younger demographics for brand image and publicity, and hoping for brand loyalty when the boomers age.
The euro 5 door tdi Volks GTI is about 22,000 pounds which trades to about $32,000 usd. But the same car is sold here for $22,000, nearly a 33% less. The tech doesn't really matter (and as per top gears test doesn't really work.)

I would imagine the Focus RS here for about $25,000 starting prices. The limited version we see in this thread maybe 28K.
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it'd be great if they had the 3, ms3, and then a decked out limited edition ms3 something, like the r3 is to the 8 maybe, only with a bump in hp, etc.
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If the limited edition was RWD, that thing would sell like hotcakes and outsell likely both the 3 and MS 3

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Old 03-30-2010 | 08:47 PM
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^yeah, totally

if i was in the market for a fun/fast dd with space, i'd get a hatch in a heartbeat...and if this thing was here, i'd get it over the ms3 no question.

i think there's def a market for it, just look at the subi crowd. why ford things they can't get into that niche is beyond me. well, i guess b/c anything else will cut into mustang sales maybe, but that just seems dumb to me.
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Dang that's a hot hatch.
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