The 997 GT3 hasn't been released yet.

 

i saw the cerrera gt at the dc autoshow, it wasnt that impressive looking to me... i thought the F430 was much prettier.

 

I also think the F430 is prettier, but I'd still take the Carrera GT. There's just something very special about the Carrera GT, the F430 just feels like a refresh of the 360 (which it kinda is).

 

When I first saw the Carerra GT in pictures, I thought it was OK but I wasn't that thrilled about it. When I saw one in person my opinion of it completely changed. That is one beautiful car. I do like the F430 but something about looks like a caricature drawing of an F360 to me. I think I'd rather have an F360 but with the 430 engine in it. Of course I wouldn't argue about it if I could own an F430.

 

then it must have been a 996 GT3, because it wasn't a standard Porsche.

 

I'm going 20b in my 8......will kill alll!!!!!!Muahahahahahhahahahahahoohoohoooooohhhho ohoaoaooaahahhahhahhahahahhaahh

ps that gt3 is sick!!!

 

The Porsche aero package for the 997 looks very similar to the GT3

 

saw the f430 too- liked it, but the GT was much more exotic..the f430, IMHO, looks sweet, but a little smooted out on the fenders----- suprising for ferrari= i.e....not as exotic as years past....just my thought..

 

The Enzo is clearly the better looking and better performing car. At that price range, you'd be an idiot to go for second best. People who can afford either car aren't going to be thinking about saving money; if they want the best, they go for the Enzo. Other than that, some rich people buy one of each, but that's beside the point. The Carrera GT is clearly second best to the Enzo. Not one single magazine prefers the Porsche. Mags will refrain from choosing one over the other but you can tell from their writing that they are in awe of the Enzo more so than the Carrera GT.

 

You're overlooking one key fact: it's impossible to buy an Enzo from Ferrari unless you meet a list of prerequisites, whereas the Carrera GT is available to anyone with the cash. If I could buy either and wanted an all out track car to race competitively, I'd probably go with the Enzo because, as you said, it is the better performer and at those price ranges an extra few hundred thousand probably wouldn't force me to eat Ramen for the next few years just to make the payments. However, if I wanted a car for any other reason, the Porsche would be my pick simply because it has a manual transmission. If I'm buying a sports car to drive around and track for fun, I want the one that will give me the most enjoyable experience, which is something that an automatic transmission, no matter how sophisticated, just can't provide. I find it ironic that the car named after Enzo Ferrari is offered solely in automatic despite his dislike of automatics in sports cars.

 

^^ "ditto" . Those are my feelings exactly.

Looks... Carrera GT. Seen plenty of F360 and F430 in Tokyo (even at my office)... styling is like RG said... just another "low end" Ferrari. The Carrera GT is dead sexy and very different from all past Porsche.

 

Well Rhodes was a racist and sexist. Now it's awarded to females and blacks, winners of which typically have lower credentials, which I think is purposely done. That's DOUBLE ironic.

 

Heres a video of the car. It's in German, and kinda repetitive, but offers some good shots of it.
http://coochas.com/porsche/Resources/997GT3vid1.wmv

 

so ya ran out of things to argue over? good job.

anyway, i love the enzo for its incredible performance, but the porsche is just awe-inspiring (moreso than the enzo, i think). one cannot argue (well, you could...) the superiority of the enzo's performance & its desirability (based on the 39x produced, higher exlusivity, etc.), but the carrera would be my choice, if i had the money. like the poor college kid said, its a manual (& a dead sexy one at that). oh yeah, & ill use all the extra money i save to put towards development of parts for my 8! you will bow down...don't deny it!!!

 

Clearly disagree with you. it is probably one of the ugliest Ferraris out right now. But form follows function. If I hit the lotto tomorrow & somebody told me Enzo for $1 million+ or Carrera GT for $400K (these are the street prices). Difference is a whopping .1 sec. in the 1/4 mile. Porsche enginneers said the car would have been 100 lbs. lighter, but they had to strengthen it because of the targa top configuration (not sure I would agree with this, f**k the targa tops & take off the weight). I would go for the Carrera GT.

I really love the new GT3, just wish it had some more ponies. It used to be the GT3 was a match for the Z06 in every measurable category & then some. Now the new Z06 will hand it it's head on a platter in a straightline. I hate this 20 (in this case 40) hp every few years. Or they can do like the upcoming turbo and start using some aluminum parts & drop 90 lbs. off the car.

 

Wow only a matter of time till I see one of them on the road out here lol.

 

Now what we are REALLY waiting for is the 510Hp 997 911 Turbo S. Porsche is dropping the 911 GT2 model for the 997 model year, and the new top 911 is going to be the Turbo S.

 

Meh. If I had to buy a 911, and money wasn't an issue, a turbo wouldn't even cross my mind. That's the starbucks porsche IMO.

 

I can see where your coming from, but in all reality, theres no arguing its dominance. Just sucks that most of them will go to 60y/o that use it to drive around their retirement comunity...

 

"BluEyes" :

What you mean by " the 911 Turbo is the Starbucks Porsche" ???

Divi

 

He means that most of them are bought by people that "hang out at starbucks". Its a stereotype, you get it or you dont.. haha. Cant really explain it. Just most of them will go to waste to people who will only drive it around town and never take it over 75Mph.

 

I wouldn't buy a 911 unless it was a turbo. Of course I can't afford one anyways so the point is moot. If you want the performance of a nonturbo 911 just go buy the Cayman and save a bunch of money.

I do agree that many people buy expensive cars just because they can rather than so they can enjoy them for what they are but this is true with any high dollar car. You'll get a few enthusiasts and the rest will buy them for some hip hop rapper money spending image or because it's the in thing to do if you are rich. I wish I could do that.

 

I have a 2005 996TT and I dont like Coffee !!!!! I drive it hard, like is suppose to be. So it is a wrong generalization-

Divi

 

rx8ultra,

I assume your car is a Turbo S. I thought they did not make just "regular" TT's in 05' & 06'.

I would love to get into an upcoming Turbo S if it was everyday driver car, a GT3 if I had more than 1 car.

 

Indeed. It's a great car, don't get me wrong. To me, it just doesn't have that Porsche soul. It's almost too good of a car. The AWD, the driving aids, the coushy interior and electronic gadgests just take away from the spirit of Porsche, IMO. It doesn't appeal to me like the older 911's and cars like the GT3 do. It seems like it appeals to many people who grab a morning moca frappa latte cappa yada yada coffee. Obviously, not everyone who owns one is like this, many are enthusiasts.