New Mazda 6 Not Sharing Ford Platform Says News Ltd Paper
08-12-2007 | 06:10 PM
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New Mazda 6 Not Sharing Ford Platform Says News Ltd Paper
According to a News Ltd (Corp) Paper here ...
Mazda says is it a misconception that the New Mazda 6 shares the same platform as the New Ford Mondeo...
No V6 For Australian Spec Mazda 6's built in Japan.
Mazda says is it a misconception that the New Mazda 6 shares the same platform as the New Ford Mondeo...
No V6 For Australian Spec Mazda 6's built in Japan.
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08-12-2007 | 10:57 PM
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i read a comment about this a few days ago. Apparently the Modeo is on a version of the CD platform they call "EUCD"(for Europe i suppose) while the new Mazda6 is on the CD-3 chassis. Another remark mentioned the "EUCD" can not fit a 6cyl- perhaps why it was nopt chosen since they need the 3.5/3.7 to compete in several markets
08-12-2007 | 11:19 PM
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here is an ecellent discussions of the pros/cons , similarities and differences between CD3-2(fusion cuurent 6 et al are on CD3-1) of the 2009 Mazda6 and the EUCD of the Mondeo
http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums...howtopic=15399
http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums...howtopic=15399
08-12-2007 | 11:20 PM
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I guess automakers these days count shortened or lengthened chassis as some sort of "new" platform. In the same way as a new model of their car is boasted as "all new", when in fact, maybe 10% of the parts are truly fresh vs the outgoing model.
Reminds me when I was at the Lexus dealer in the mid 90s and described the ES300 as "just a Camry". One of the salesmen overheard, came over, and exclaimed : "They tell us it has nothing in common with the Toyota." WTF?!
Reminds me when I was at the Lexus dealer in the mid 90s and described the ES300 as "just a Camry". One of the salesmen overheard, came over, and exclaimed : "They tell us it has nothing in common with the Toyota." WTF?!
08-13-2007 | 04:29 AM
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I guess automakers these days count shortened or lengthened chassis as some sort of "new" platform. In the same way as a new model of their car is boasted as "all new", when in fact, maybe 10% of the parts are truly fresh vs the outgoing model.
Reminds me when I was at the Lexus dealer in the mid 90s and described the ES300 as "just a Camry". One of the salesmen overheard, came over, and exclaimed : "They tell us it has nothing in common with the Toyota." WTF?!
Reminds me when I was at the Lexus dealer in the mid 90s and described the ES300 as "just a Camry". One of the salesmen overheard, came over, and exclaimed : "They tell us it has nothing in common with the Toyota." WTF?!
As an ex Mazda Parts Manager I can assure you when Mazda releases an ALL New Model line like the New Mazda 6 there are very few carry over (sharing) parts.
More like 10% (Sometimes Engine) of parts are from the old model and 90% are all new components.
08-13-2007 | 11:52 AM
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08-21-2007 | 11:47 AM
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interesting Mazda6news (and other) from the very reliable and accurate Mark Rechtin at Automotive News (if you look back he is the reporter who actually broke the story of the engine recall BEFORE Mazda's press release)
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...7/1024/podcast
which dovetails nicely from the report in june that Mazda was going to begin building 6cyls in Hiroshima again.
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...070723/136530/
which was covered in this previous thread https://www.rx8club.com/general-automotive-49/mazdas-flexible-mixed-engine-production-cx-9s-new-v6-122391/
The Mazda6 gets a new, larger four-cylinder engine. Also, because Ford does not want to share its 3.5-liter V-6, Mazda will do it one better, using a Hiroshima-sourced 3.7-liter engine that is also in the CX-9. It probably will be mated to a six-speed automatic transmission.
which dovetails nicely from the report in june that Mazda was going to begin building 6cyls in Hiroshima again.
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...070723/136530/
Mazda Produces V-6 Engines and Straight-4 Engines in Mixed-model Assembly Lines
Jul 23, 2007 18:37
Motohiko Hamada, Nikkei Automobile Technology
Mazda Motor Corp. announced that it started the machining process of a new V-6 engine (3.7 liter) and MZR, an existing straight-four engine (1.8-2.3 liter), in the same production lines (mixed-model assembly lines).
They are produced in the engine plant located in South Ward, Hiroshima, where the company's headquarters plant exists.
Mazda manufactures V-6 engines for the first time in four years, or since August 2003. The company started to produce the new V-6 engines in May 2007.
Jul 23, 2007 18:37
Motohiko Hamada, Nikkei Automobile Technology
Mazda Motor Corp. announced that it started the machining process of a new V-6 engine (3.7 liter) and MZR, an existing straight-four engine (1.8-2.3 liter), in the same production lines (mixed-model assembly lines).
They are produced in the engine plant located in South Ward, Hiroshima, where the company's headquarters plant exists.
Mazda manufactures V-6 engines for the first time in four years, or since August 2003. The company started to produce the new V-6 engines in May 2007.
08-21-2007 | 03:56 PM
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I guess Ford changed their mind about sharing its V6. The current CX9 has one in it.
So right now all the Mazda 6 engines will be coming from Japan. Inline 4 and V6. I hope Mazda can handle the volume, its a problem for them.
It seems the ties with Ford is slowly diminishing, axe-ing the tribute line and not using Ford's engines. (However the 3.7L has to be based on Ford's 3.5L)
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So right now all the Mazda 6 engines will be coming from Japan. Inline 4 and V6. I hope Mazda can handle the volume, its a problem for them.
It seems the ties with Ford is slowly diminishing, axe-ing the tribute line and not using Ford's engines. (However the 3.7L has to be based on Ford's 3.5L)
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