NO Plan for New Rotary....THE END...maybe.
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No petroleum only rotary ?
Hey ASH8 I feel your pain with gas over $5 in Aussie land and EU, but even despite recent huge gas price rises in the USA, gas speculators don't see us going quite that high here.
As the USA is Mazda's single largest market country outside Japan, they can sell a petroleum-only rotary car here if it has 300hp AND gets 20% better economy than the RX8. Remember other car manufacturers from around the world still sell gas cars in the USA that have comparable gas mileage to what Mazda proposes for their next rotary RX9. Yes these manufacturers will offer hybrids and diesels, as will Mazda have to offer, but they will still sell gas-powered performance sedans and sports cars here. Don't expect to see corvettes and mustangs , camaros and chargers become hybrid overnight. Porsche is working on a hybrid sports car, but they will still probably sell a gas 911 here.
Maybe in Australia gas rotary sports cars won't be available or saleable, but Mazda is banking on selling one in the USA. The Australian market is not the same as the American market.
As the USA is Mazda's single largest market country outside Japan, they can sell a petroleum-only rotary car here if it has 300hp AND gets 20% better economy than the RX8. Remember other car manufacturers from around the world still sell gas cars in the USA that have comparable gas mileage to what Mazda proposes for their next rotary RX9. Yes these manufacturers will offer hybrids and diesels, as will Mazda have to offer, but they will still sell gas-powered performance sedans and sports cars here. Don't expect to see corvettes and mustangs , camaros and chargers become hybrid overnight. Porsche is working on a hybrid sports car, but they will still probably sell a gas 911 here.
Maybe in Australia gas rotary sports cars won't be available or saleable, but Mazda is banking on selling one in the USA. The Australian market is not the same as the American market.
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Apparently he does not get Mazda magazine (they produce) which shows the Shinari concept, and states Mazda is Developing the next RX. There is no date on production yet as they want to ensure that the car meets/exceeds standards. Mazda uses the Rotary as a niche and with out it they are just a good car company not an innovative company. PS Audi is planning to use a Rotary in their Hybrid A-1 E TRON I think the cars called? GM also has speculation that they might pick up a rotary for the Volt as it will allow them a better weight balance and take up less room.
ROTARY is not dead just in slow production thanks to a bad economy as it was in the USA before 2003-2004. I for one will be buying the new RX when ever it debuts (will not trade in my 8 and hope to get a 7 with in the year)
ROTARY is not dead just in slow production thanks to a bad economy as it was in the USA before 2003-2004. I for one will be buying the new RX when ever it debuts (will not trade in my 8 and hope to get a 7 with in the year)
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Zero11534 You are so right on the money here. I had also previously heard about the Audi use of a rotary in their upcoming hybrid. Seems a natural for weight and balance in the Volt also. I heard the Audi will be a single rotor. Probably a single rotor in the Volt too.
I also will buy the new RX when it comes out, while keeping my 40th anniversary RX8.
I also will buy the new RX when it comes out, while keeping my 40th anniversary RX8.
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just imagine, what the rotary could have been if all automakers invested time and money in to R&D , the engine would be even more awesome then it already is.. Iol okay i'm having a moment brb gonna guy buy some gas
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Zero11534 You are so right on the money here. I had also previously heard about the Audi use of a rotary in their upcoming hybrid. Seems a natural for weight and balance in the Volt also. I heard the Audi will be a single rotor. Probably a single rotor in the Volt too.
I also will buy the new RX when it comes out, while keeping my 40th anniversary RX8.
I also will buy the new RX when it comes out, while keeping my 40th anniversary RX8.
Mazda is always tight lid on their products, as we all saw what happened when they boast before one comes out (aka the RX8 HP/TQ rating's) consumer cried horrid about it until Mazda had to refund and change the standard. If that had been any other car it would have been a simple here is the correction. One final point is the NEW Mazda Rotary race car, if they were done with the Rotary's they wouldn't dump so much into the technology's for the car, they would build a piston motor for the auto instead. I for one Love my RX8 and despite it's short comings is one of the best handling 4dr sports cars on the market (oh wait prob one of the only ones)
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I saw the etron at CES and spent some time with it and an Audi engineer that was on hand. we have threads here from before talking about the design of the rotor(LDR) and who is producing it etc.
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Okay, latest teaser (From 2 different credible sources):
Mazda is making more than 300 hp from the 1600 cc rotary and they are still dealing with emissions obstacles.
Rumor has it that they are still intending to bring us a new car. I would guess that we are not but months away from some announcement.
Paul.
Mazda is making more than 300 hp from the 1600 cc rotary and they are still dealing with emissions obstacles.
Rumor has it that they are still intending to bring us a new car. I would guess that we are not but months away from some announcement.
Paul.
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thanks for the news , Paul...
for who have the possibility to give in its hands the latest number of Japanese Magazine "Best Car" (the issue is 2011 5/26) on the first page there is a PS of shinari w/freestyle doors and the title: "scoop, latest info on RX-7, RX-8 and Roadster"
maybe there is something interesting inside.
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for who have the possibility to give in its hands the latest number of Japanese Magazine "Best Car" (the issue is 2011 5/26) on the first page there is a PS of shinari w/freestyle doors and the title: "scoop, latest info on RX-7, RX-8 and Roadster"
maybe there is something interesting inside.
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Okay, latest teaser (From 2 different credible sources):
Mazda is making more than 300 hp from the 1600 cc rotary and they are still dealing with emissions obstacles.
Rumor has it that they are still intending to bring us a new car. I would guess that we are not but months away from some announcement.
Paul.
Mazda is making more than 300 hp from the 1600 cc rotary and they are still dealing with emissions obstacles.
Rumor has it that they are still intending to bring us a new car. I would guess that we are not but months away from some announcement.
Paul.
thanks for the update.
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Just out of curiosity, what was the weight and hp of the MazdaSpeed Miata?
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#346
Not really banned. Mazda were not allowed to sell any new RX-8's when the (ridiculous) Euro VI emmissions rules came in last year.
Its the same for Honda and their Type-R. What I cannot understand is how Aston Martin, Ferrari etc. get around this?
The R3 is unfortunately a rare sight on the roads here in the UK. Any post 2006 RX-8 in the UK costs over £400 a year to tax couple that with the cost of servicing, fuel and the increased cost of living people would rather go out and buy a little eco hatchback.. such a shame.
Still. I have a (dreaded?) 2004 RX-8 which means I pay a little over £200 a year for road tax! Nobody will make me part with her. No other car has made me smile so much! Lets hope Mazda keep the spirit of driving alive.
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Mazda Rx-8 was euro IV compliant since its launch in Europe (at that time was the highest certification available).
from 1/1/11 is MANDATORY to be Euro V compliant for new cars.Rx-8 is "out of businness"in Eu because is expensive and complicated to adapt renesis to €5.
I don't know for AM, but Ferrari's line-up is Euro V compliant.
An eventually new rotary (ex. 16-x) is necessary to be Euro-VI compliant to remain in sale a decent number of years (euro VI is MANDATORY 1/1/2015)
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