Official 2009 Formula 1 Season Discussion
04-03-2009, 01:46 PM
#426
Power!!
Q & A with Lewis Hamilton
By Jonathan Noble Friday, April 3rd 2009, 10:33 GMT
Lewis Hamilton has been at the centre of a controversy since the Australian Grand Prix, where the McLaren driver and sporting director Dave Ryan faced the FIA stewards to explain an incident with Jarno Trulli during the race.
Over the week, the FIA revealed both men had misled the stewards, leading to Hamilton's disqualification from the event and to heavy criticism in the British media over his antics.
On Friday at Sepang, Hamilton faced the media to offer an apology and to give his view on the whole incident.
Lewis Hamilton: In Melbourne, I had a great race. As soon as I got out the car I had the television interviews at the back of the garage, and straight away I gave them a good account of what happened during the race. Straight after that we were requested by the stewards, and while waiting for the stewards I was instructed and misled by my team manager to withhold information, and that is what I did.
I sincerely apologise to the stewards for wasting their time and for making them look silly. I am very, very sorry for the situation: for my team, for Dave because he has been a good member of the team for many years, and whilst I don't think it was his intention or...he is a good guy.
I went into the meeting, I had no intention of...I just wanted to tell the story and say what happened. I was misled and that is the way it went. I would like to say a big sorry to all my fans who have believed in me, who have supported me for years, who I showed who I am for the past three years, and it is who I am. I am not a liar. I am not a dishonest person. I am a team player.
Every time I have been informed to do something I have done it. This time I realise it was a huge mistake and I am learning from it. It has taken a huge toll on me. I apologise to you guys, I didn't speak to you yesterday, but there was a lot of take in and a lot to deal with. I am here to apologise to everyone and I assure you it won't happen again.
Q. How do you feel about yourself? Do you feel comfortable with yourself about what you have done?
LH: No. This is why I am here. This is why I am sitting here in front of you. This is not an easy thing for anyone to do. To put their hand up, and step back and realise they are in the wrong. But the fact is I was in the wrong. I feel I owe it to my fans and I owe it to my people to let them know. But like I said, I was misled. It is easy to be misled sometimes, and I realise that that is the situation and that is why I am here.
Q. You say you were misled. Can I ask, did you talk to Dave Ryan before you went into the stewards and say, that doesn't stack up with what I have just said or what I believe? And how difficult was it for you to go in knowing that what you were saying was misleading?
LH: The thing is we were rushed. I was still in my suit, and we went straight up. Actually when I came up from the garage, we went straight up the pitlane and we went straight there, and while we were waiting for Jarno to come out, I was instructed.
I honestly acted as a team member. If the team have asked me to do something I have generally done it. I didn't have time to think about it, to think about what I was going to do. I went in and I did it, and I felt awkward. I felt very uncomfortable. I think the stewards could see that, and I guess that is why I am in this position.
To refer to the guy before's question - I've never felt so bad. Try and put yourself in my position and understand that, like I said, I am not a liar. I have not gone through my life being a liar or dishonest. And so for people to say I am dishonest and for the world to think that....what can I say?
Q. You have said it was a matter between you and Dave Ryan. Was anyone else at McLaren involved in the planning for the decision, or was it only you two?
LH: No. It was just me and Dave.
Q. There was nothing wrong with what you did on the circuit. There was nothing wrong with the radio conversation itself. Did you not ask yourself why the hell they [the team] wanted to present this version, and what was the target out of it?
LH: Like I said, I was literally walking in so I didn't have time to really think about it. But for sure afterwards I wasn't completely sure why. We hadn't done anything wrong, we were just going in there to give account of what happened - regardless of if I had third or fourth. Jarno did a fantastic race and I had no need and no intention of giving him the penalty. That was not my aim. That is not something I do. I earn my points and my positions through hard work, and that is not the way I think.
Q. Have you apologised to Jarno, and was it you who pressured the team to sack Ryan [who has been suspended]?
LH: That second part of the question is nothing to do with me. Dave is a great guy and he has worked with the team for many years. He is feeling it just as much as the whole team. I haven't had the chance to speak to Jarno. I did actually see him before we went into the meeting and I said sorry for the situation. But…
Q. When Jarno went off and you passed him correctly, because he was off the track, why was there was any decision at all about letting him back in front? Why didn't you just stay there? Why was there any radio communication?
LH: When the safety car comes out, the team tell you time and time again, no overtaking under yellow flags. So while that has been drummed into you, you are dealing with everything that has been going on.
Jarno went off the track and clearly I went by. I tried to avoid going by, but I went by. Whilst I was sure in my mind that this is not my fault I have gone by him, I had to be sure. I worked this hard to get from dead last on the grid to fourth place, I was sitting in third now and I didn't want to be penalised. I didn't want the hard work to go out the window by getting a penalty, so I had to make sure. It is better to be safe and sound so I asked time and time again.
Q. Is this the worst thing you've ever had to do. And do you fear FIA retribution for the team, which a lot of people have speculated on? The FIA has said it is possible there could be repercussions
LH: For me, the situation is definitely the worst thing I've experienced in my life. That is why I am here. It is right for me as a human being and as a man to stand in front of you all and tell you exactly what went on and put up my hands. I cannot tell you how sorry I am. I'm sorry to my team and my family for the embarrassment. It is a very, very embarrassing situation.
I am sure the FIA will act accordingly and in the right way. I don't know what else is going to happen in the future. For me now, I have to focus on the race and try to move forward from this, learn from it and grow.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74203
By Jonathan Noble Friday, April 3rd 2009, 10:33 GMT
Lewis Hamilton has been at the centre of a controversy since the Australian Grand Prix, where the McLaren driver and sporting director Dave Ryan faced the FIA stewards to explain an incident with Jarno Trulli during the race.
Over the week, the FIA revealed both men had misled the stewards, leading to Hamilton's disqualification from the event and to heavy criticism in the British media over his antics.
On Friday at Sepang, Hamilton faced the media to offer an apology and to give his view on the whole incident.
Lewis Hamilton: In Melbourne, I had a great race. As soon as I got out the car I had the television interviews at the back of the garage, and straight away I gave them a good account of what happened during the race. Straight after that we were requested by the stewards, and while waiting for the stewards I was instructed and misled by my team manager to withhold information, and that is what I did.
I sincerely apologise to the stewards for wasting their time and for making them look silly. I am very, very sorry for the situation: for my team, for Dave because he has been a good member of the team for many years, and whilst I don't think it was his intention or...he is a good guy.
I went into the meeting, I had no intention of...I just wanted to tell the story and say what happened. I was misled and that is the way it went. I would like to say a big sorry to all my fans who have believed in me, who have supported me for years, who I showed who I am for the past three years, and it is who I am. I am not a liar. I am not a dishonest person. I am a team player.
Every time I have been informed to do something I have done it. This time I realise it was a huge mistake and I am learning from it. It has taken a huge toll on me. I apologise to you guys, I didn't speak to you yesterday, but there was a lot of take in and a lot to deal with. I am here to apologise to everyone and I assure you it won't happen again.
Q. How do you feel about yourself? Do you feel comfortable with yourself about what you have done?
LH: No. This is why I am here. This is why I am sitting here in front of you. This is not an easy thing for anyone to do. To put their hand up, and step back and realise they are in the wrong. But the fact is I was in the wrong. I feel I owe it to my fans and I owe it to my people to let them know. But like I said, I was misled. It is easy to be misled sometimes, and I realise that that is the situation and that is why I am here.
Q. You say you were misled. Can I ask, did you talk to Dave Ryan before you went into the stewards and say, that doesn't stack up with what I have just said or what I believe? And how difficult was it for you to go in knowing that what you were saying was misleading?
LH: The thing is we were rushed. I was still in my suit, and we went straight up. Actually when I came up from the garage, we went straight up the pitlane and we went straight there, and while we were waiting for Jarno to come out, I was instructed.
I honestly acted as a team member. If the team have asked me to do something I have generally done it. I didn't have time to think about it, to think about what I was going to do. I went in and I did it, and I felt awkward. I felt very uncomfortable. I think the stewards could see that, and I guess that is why I am in this position.
To refer to the guy before's question - I've never felt so bad. Try and put yourself in my position and understand that, like I said, I am not a liar. I have not gone through my life being a liar or dishonest. And so for people to say I am dishonest and for the world to think that....what can I say?
Q. You have said it was a matter between you and Dave Ryan. Was anyone else at McLaren involved in the planning for the decision, or was it only you two?
LH: No. It was just me and Dave.
Q. There was nothing wrong with what you did on the circuit. There was nothing wrong with the radio conversation itself. Did you not ask yourself why the hell they [the team] wanted to present this version, and what was the target out of it?
LH: Like I said, I was literally walking in so I didn't have time to really think about it. But for sure afterwards I wasn't completely sure why. We hadn't done anything wrong, we were just going in there to give account of what happened - regardless of if I had third or fourth. Jarno did a fantastic race and I had no need and no intention of giving him the penalty. That was not my aim. That is not something I do. I earn my points and my positions through hard work, and that is not the way I think.
Q. Have you apologised to Jarno, and was it you who pressured the team to sack Ryan [who has been suspended]?
LH: That second part of the question is nothing to do with me. Dave is a great guy and he has worked with the team for many years. He is feeling it just as much as the whole team. I haven't had the chance to speak to Jarno. I did actually see him before we went into the meeting and I said sorry for the situation. But…
Q. When Jarno went off and you passed him correctly, because he was off the track, why was there was any decision at all about letting him back in front? Why didn't you just stay there? Why was there any radio communication?
LH: When the safety car comes out, the team tell you time and time again, no overtaking under yellow flags. So while that has been drummed into you, you are dealing with everything that has been going on.
Jarno went off the track and clearly I went by. I tried to avoid going by, but I went by. Whilst I was sure in my mind that this is not my fault I have gone by him, I had to be sure. I worked this hard to get from dead last on the grid to fourth place, I was sitting in third now and I didn't want to be penalised. I didn't want the hard work to go out the window by getting a penalty, so I had to make sure. It is better to be safe and sound so I asked time and time again.
Q. Is this the worst thing you've ever had to do. And do you fear FIA retribution for the team, which a lot of people have speculated on? The FIA has said it is possible there could be repercussions
LH: For me, the situation is definitely the worst thing I've experienced in my life. That is why I am here. It is right for me as a human being and as a man to stand in front of you all and tell you exactly what went on and put up my hands. I cannot tell you how sorry I am. I'm sorry to my team and my family for the embarrassment. It is a very, very embarrassing situation.
I am sure the FIA will act accordingly and in the right way. I don't know what else is going to happen in the future. For me now, I have to focus on the race and try to move forward from this, learn from it and grow.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74203
All in all a stupid mistake that gets to the heart of the matter that more transparency in data and communications will lead to less teams trying to mislead judges.
I have to say I'm happy with this penalty to the team for lying.
04-03-2009, 02:07 PM
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That about sums it up. I can totally understand where Hamilton is coming from. He trusts his team has a bigger view of the situation than he does and trusted the team manager to instruct him in what to say and he told him to do the wrong thing. Part of growing up I suppose and questioning his manager in the future. Next time I'm sure he'll question harder. It sounds like the right person is getting penalized for it (Dave).
All in all a stupid mistake that gets to the heart of the matter that more transparency in data and communications will lead to less teams trying to mislead judges.
I have to say I'm happy with this penalty to the team for lying.
All in all a stupid mistake that gets to the heart of the matter that more transparency in data and communications will lead to less teams trying to mislead judges.
I have to say I'm happy with this penalty to the team for lying.
its like if me and a friend went out partying, and his GF wanted to know where we went. my friend tells me to only mention place A but do not mention place b ( strip club etc) what would i do. i would only mention place A and hope i dont get caught covering up for my friend. In hamilton case it has do with racing, but same concept. he was told by his boss to say certain things and leave out other info. I dont know any one who would go up against their team boss in the same room.
but am happy that hamilton was stripped of his points ,and i am a huge hamilton fa). I hope hamilton and his team gets to move on.
04-03-2009, 10:15 PM
#429
for starters, my comments are just crap talk, which should be taken as jokes. which is why i ediit my comment to your whole comment is a joke.
as for your comment about alonso, you admire him being a total brat? i mean the guy was pissed because hamilton drove faster and wanted to win. you admire somone who wanted his team member to be 2nd because he wanted to be 1st when his team member was out driving him? what i admire is Kimi for not acting like alonso , due to massa out driving him (kimi).
btw what does alonso being latin have to do with anything. arton senna was my favorite driver, and he is latin from what i last remember him as
also like to add, when it comes to F1 all my crap talk is just crap talk. its fun for me to pick on ferrari fans ,even though i have nothing against them. i find them to be the sheeps of f1 . (JK btw)
as for your comment about alonso, you admire him being a total brat? i mean the guy was pissed because hamilton drove faster and wanted to win. you admire somone who wanted his team member to be 2nd because he wanted to be 1st when his team member was out driving him? what i admire is Kimi for not acting like alonso , due to massa out driving him (kimi).
btw what does alonso being latin have to do with anything. arton senna was my favorite driver, and he is latin from what i last remember him as
also like to add, when it comes to F1 all my crap talk is just crap talk. its fun for me to pick on ferrari fans ,even though i have nothing against them. i find them to be the sheeps of f1 . (JK btw)
Jokes is fine... Finally we agree on something! Ayrton was the BEST EVER! and I still remember how my whole country was in shock when he died.
BTW, I am not a Ferrari fan... I just don't like McLaren period and I do admire Alonso for having the ***** to do what he did. To me, he is the best driver nowdays...cocky? suuure... who isn't in F1, well except for Barrichello
Carlos
BTW, I am not a Ferrari fan... I just don't like McLaren period and I do admire Alonso for having the ***** to do what he did. To me, he is the best driver nowdays...cocky? suuure... who isn't in F1, well except for Barrichello
Carlos
04-05-2009, 12:12 AM
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Speaking of Alfy. Where is a paintshop picture of Massa sitting snugly in the pits when bumped to 16th in Q1?
I find it hilarious that Ferrari still dares to be so arrogant and believe they are so fast even when they know the car is not good enough. Granted a 1-2 on the last training is a hope-giver, but seriously, where did they think they got that speed without including any new part from the Friday training?
I did not think people could be arrogant enough to believe that you can go from a mid pack runner to the top with just settings. That's like saying: We can setup our car and all you others can't.
Well Massa in P16 or something in the start (i don't know how many penalties FIA will handout today) ought to give an interesting race.
Vettel in P13 (after an unfair 10 grid penalty) will also spice up the race.
I'm rooting for Trulli in this one though. I hope he has the speed to challenge Button. Battles on the track are all nice, but battles for P1 is awesome.
I find it hilarious that Ferrari still dares to be so arrogant and believe they are so fast even when they know the car is not good enough. Granted a 1-2 on the last training is a hope-giver, but seriously, where did they think they got that speed without including any new part from the Friday training?
I did not think people could be arrogant enough to believe that you can go from a mid pack runner to the top with just settings. That's like saying: We can setup our car and all you others can't.
Well Massa in P16 or something in the start (i don't know how many penalties FIA will handout today) ought to give an interesting race.
Vettel in P13 (after an unfair 10 grid penalty) will also spice up the race.
I'm rooting for Trulli in this one though. I hope he has the speed to challenge Button. Battles on the track are all nice, but battles for P1 is awesome.
04-05-2009, 10:02 AM
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What pointy ears?
And so was the latter part of the race ... I lost track of everyone's position as soon as the mad scramble for the slick-wet-intermediate-wet tires were going on
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04-05-2009, 10:25 AM
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Have a laptop next to you while watching and have the live timings from formula1.com and you can see everything that happens. We have slow commentators in Sweden so me and my friend who watch together keep spotting things before the commentators.
On the live timing you see all sector times of all drivers and the order of the pack at any time in the race. It is very recommended.
On the live timing you see all sector times of all drivers and the order of the pack at any time in the race. It is very recommended.
04-06-2009, 12:06 AM
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04-06-2009, 09:43 AM
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04-06-2009, 10:15 AM
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well i believe 2013 is my last year watching F1 lol. what would be the point for F1 if they want to move to a standard engine. That what Indy is for lol. i understand they are trying to cut price. oh well, max and Eccelstone your doing a awesome job destroying F1.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090406....a-world-engine
Mosley reveals plans for FIA 'world engine'
April 6, 2009 5:01 PM
Filed Under: F1, Motorsport
Max Mosley has revealed plans for a "world engine" that in 2013 would be capable of powering FIA categories including formula one, world rally and F2.
On a visit last weekend to the rally of Portugal he said: "It would work in turbocharged form for F1 and then all the way down to naturally aspirated form for the lesser categories and in a turbocharged or naturally aspirated form for the world rally championship."
The FIA president said the planning phase of the project is in its "very early days", with the car manufacturers to be involved.
In the case of F1, he said "peripheral areas" of the engine will be open for development, including KERS and other energy recovery systems to be introduced.
Asked for further information, he said energy could be collected not only from braking heat as at present, but "from exhausts and even from the cooling system".
Referring to the universal FIA engine, he added: "If we can - and I'm not sure we can - find a way of combining all forms of motor sport in that system then this would be useful because of the huge sums spent on motor sport."
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090406....a-world-engine
Mosley reveals plans for FIA 'world engine'
April 6, 2009 5:01 PM
Filed Under: F1, Motorsport
Max Mosley has revealed plans for a "world engine" that in 2013 would be capable of powering FIA categories including formula one, world rally and F2.
On a visit last weekend to the rally of Portugal he said: "It would work in turbocharged form for F1 and then all the way down to naturally aspirated form for the lesser categories and in a turbocharged or naturally aspirated form for the world rally championship."
The FIA president said the planning phase of the project is in its "very early days", with the car manufacturers to be involved.
In the case of F1, he said "peripheral areas" of the engine will be open for development, including KERS and other energy recovery systems to be introduced.
Asked for further information, he said energy could be collected not only from braking heat as at present, but "from exhausts and even from the cooling system".
Referring to the universal FIA engine, he added: "If we can - and I'm not sure we can - find a way of combining all forms of motor sport in that system then this would be useful because of the huge sums spent on motor sport."
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04-06-2009, 11:32 AM
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Power!!
It's unfortunate that the last half of the race was rained out but definitely warranted. F1 catering to the European TV scheduling it in the late afternoon when it rains buckets AT THE SAME TIME EVERY DAY. Nice job knowing it's going to rain and then get dark and doing it anyway. 
It was interesting to see the tire scramble at the end. Nice work to TIMO Glock and Rosberg on tire choice! "We are ze Germans and we alvays make ze correct tire choice."
Listening to Nico's accent on the podium I couldn't help but think of the Nihilists from The big Lebowski. I wonder if Jensen started getting WWII images being chased by Germans all weekend.
Alfy any possibility of a photoshop of that?
It was interesting to see the tire scramble at the end. Nice work to TIMO Glock and Rosberg on tire choice! "We are ze Germans and we alvays make ze correct tire choice."
Listening to Nico's accent on the podium I couldn't help but think of the Nihilists from The big Lebowski. I wonder if Jensen started getting WWII images being chased by Germans all weekend.
Alfy any possibility of a photoshop of that?
04-06-2009, 12:41 PM
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A rotary would be perfect for a "World Engine" add/subtract rotors depending on the class. It will even run N.A. or turbo. You could use various different port locations depending on power desired.
But, how can he expect to use a "World Engine" in rally. All of those cars are based on stock/street cars. It doesn't even come close to being practical for a spec engine.
But, how can he expect to use a "World Engine" in rally. All of those cars are based on stock/street cars. It doesn't even come close to being practical for a spec engine.
04-06-2009, 12:48 PM
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[QUOTE=shaunv74;2954293]It's unfortunate that the last half of the race was rained out but definitely warranted. F1 catering to the European TV scheduling it in the late afternoon when it rains buckets AT THE SAME TIME EVERY DAY. Nice job knowing it's going to rain and then get dark and doing it anyway.
It was interesting to see the tire scramble at the end. Nice work to TIMO Glock and Rosberg on tire choice! "We are ze Germans and we alvays make ze correct tire choice."
Listening to Nico's accent on the podium I couldn't help but think of the Nihilists from The big Lebowski. I wonder if Jensen started getting WWII images being chased by Germans all weekend.
Alfy any possibility of a photoshop of that?[/QUOTE]
lol not sure i will use WW2 images. but i do have a idea lol, just by the comment i bolded first on your commen about germans.
It was interesting to see the tire scramble at the end. Nice work to TIMO Glock and Rosberg on tire choice! "We are ze Germans and we alvays make ze correct tire choice."
Listening to Nico's accent on the podium I couldn't help but think of the Nihilists from The big Lebowski. I wonder if Jensen started getting WWII images being chased by Germans all weekend.
Alfy any possibility of a photoshop of that?[/QUOTE]
lol not sure i will use WW2 images. but i do have a idea lol, just by the comment i bolded first on your commen about germans.
04-06-2009, 01:10 PM
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http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090406....r-in-f1---ralf
amilton 'not the first liar' in F1 - Ralf
April 6, 2009 12:20 PM
Filed Under: F1
Ralf Schumacher in Malaysia poured water on the 'lie-gate' saga, suggesting economy with the truth is not a rare commodity in formula one.
The former six-time grand prix winner was at Sepang last weekend, filling in for Niki Lauda as a pundit for German TV.
He therefore witnessed the scandal unfold first hand, from when the stewards disqualified Lewis Hamilton to the suspension of Dave Ryan.
It is now likely that the matter will be referred to the World Motor Sport Council, where sanctions against McLaren could be applied.
The German newspaper Bild am Sonntag asked Schumacher, who raced full-time in F1 for a decade until 2007, if he ever lied in his capacity as a driver.
"I could not say that, in my active time (in F1), that I would not have acted in the same situation in the same way (as Hamilton).
"You are together with your team," Schumacher, 34, said, "and together you say what you have to say."
Ralf said he does not condone lying "but on the other hand Lewis was surely not the first" to do so.
amilton 'not the first liar' in F1 - Ralf
April 6, 2009 12:20 PM
Filed Under: F1
Ralf Schumacher in Malaysia poured water on the 'lie-gate' saga, suggesting economy with the truth is not a rare commodity in formula one.
The former six-time grand prix winner was at Sepang last weekend, filling in for Niki Lauda as a pundit for German TV.
He therefore witnessed the scandal unfold first hand, from when the stewards disqualified Lewis Hamilton to the suspension of Dave Ryan.
It is now likely that the matter will be referred to the World Motor Sport Council, where sanctions against McLaren could be applied.
The German newspaper Bild am Sonntag asked Schumacher, who raced full-time in F1 for a decade until 2007, if he ever lied in his capacity as a driver.
"I could not say that, in my active time (in F1), that I would not have acted in the same situation in the same way (as Hamilton).
"You are together with your team," Schumacher, 34, said, "and together you say what you have to say."
Ralf said he does not condone lying "but on the other hand Lewis was surely not the first" to do so.
04-06-2009, 09:53 PM
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There is talk that Mercedes may leave F1. That would directly affect McLaren, the customer teams and F1 in general.
Mercedes' F1 commitment back under cloud
“We are clearly unhappy with the situation'' 06/04/09 16:18
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...06161822.shtml
Also, it is likely that McLaren will be facing the same type of scrutiny that they had to endure under the spy scandal.
Mercedes' F1 commitment back under cloud
“We are clearly unhappy with the situation'' 06/04/09 16:18
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...06161822.shtml
Also, it is likely that McLaren will be facing the same type of scrutiny that they had to endure under the spy scandal.
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04-07-2009, 04:52 PM
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74348
McLaren parts company with Ryan
By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, April 7th 2009, 15:55 GMT
McLaren said on Tuesday it has parted company with sporting director Dave Ryan, while vowing to work with the FIA ahead of the World Motor Sport Council hearing later this month.
The Woking-based team has been summoned to appear before the WMSC on April 29 to answer charges that it brought the sport into disrepute after lying to race stewards at the Australian Grand Prix - and then at a second hearing in Malaysia last week.
Stating that it wanted to work with the FIA for the best interests of F1, McLaren also confirmed that Ryan, who was suspended for his involvement in the matter last Friday, had now parted company with the team.
"McLaren acknowledges receipt of an invitation to appear at an FIA World Motor Sport Council meeting in Paris on April 29, received this afternoon," said McLaren in a statement issued on Tuesday.
"We undertake to co-operate fully with all WMSC processes, and welcome the opportunity to work with the FIA in the best interests of Formula 1.
"This afternoon McLaren and its former sporting director, Dave Ryan, have formally parted company. As a result, he is no longer an employee of any of the constituent companies of the McLaren Group."
McLaren parts company with Ryan
By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, April 7th 2009, 15:55 GMT
McLaren said on Tuesday it has parted company with sporting director Dave Ryan, while vowing to work with the FIA ahead of the World Motor Sport Council hearing later this month.
The Woking-based team has been summoned to appear before the WMSC on April 29 to answer charges that it brought the sport into disrepute after lying to race stewards at the Australian Grand Prix - and then at a second hearing in Malaysia last week.
Stating that it wanted to work with the FIA for the best interests of F1, McLaren also confirmed that Ryan, who was suspended for his involvement in the matter last Friday, had now parted company with the team.
"McLaren acknowledges receipt of an invitation to appear at an FIA World Motor Sport Council meeting in Paris on April 29, received this afternoon," said McLaren in a statement issued on Tuesday.
"We undertake to co-operate fully with all WMSC processes, and welcome the opportunity to work with the FIA in the best interests of Formula 1.
"This afternoon McLaren and its former sporting director, Dave Ryan, have formally parted company. As a result, he is no longer an employee of any of the constituent companies of the McLaren Group."
04-07-2009, 06:59 PM
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On a lighter note. I am following the BBC's F1 coverage because there are no commercial breaks. Just thought I'd share this little intro BBC had for the first race in Melbourne.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYTwmKOHcGY
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYTwmKOHcGY
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04-08-2009, 10:34 AM
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i wonder how honda feels right now, since toyota and their old team is doing really well so far.
i bet they are kicking themselves right about now. http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090408....f1-exit--brawn
Honda 'frustrated' after F1 exit - Brawn
April 8, 2009 2:00 AM
Filed Under: F1, Honda
Honda is "frustrated" to have abandoned formula one on the eve of almost guaranteed success, new team owner Ross Brawn insists.
The Briton is now leading the Brackley based camp following a management buyout, having bought it from the struggling Honda Motor Co. for a symbolic 1 British pound.
"I'm sure they were very frustrated at having to withdraw," Brawn, 54, told the Bloomberg news agency.
"I've had many notes from senior people at Honda, so they are frustrated because obviously the team has moved forward, but it was a necessity for their business."
The team netted embarrassing results in the last two years, but during 2008 invested millions of Honda dollars setting the groundwork for the current BGP001 chassis.
With Mercedes power, the 'Brawn GP' car collected both poles and both wins from the opening two grands prix of 2009.
F1 chief executive Bernie Ecclestone is surprised the Japanese manufacturer did not realise it had overseen the design of a winning car before pulling out.
"They'd spent an awful lot of money, hadn't gotten anywhere and probably didn't realise the potential," he said last weekend in Malaysia.
"I'm sure if they had, they wouldn't have gone because all this would have been Honda otherwise."
A Honda spokeswoman declined to comment.
i bet they are kicking themselves right about now. http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090408....f1-exit--brawn
Honda 'frustrated' after F1 exit - Brawn
April 8, 2009 2:00 AM
Filed Under: F1, Honda
Honda is "frustrated" to have abandoned formula one on the eve of almost guaranteed success, new team owner Ross Brawn insists.
The Briton is now leading the Brackley based camp following a management buyout, having bought it from the struggling Honda Motor Co. for a symbolic 1 British pound.
"I'm sure they were very frustrated at having to withdraw," Brawn, 54, told the Bloomberg news agency.
"I've had many notes from senior people at Honda, so they are frustrated because obviously the team has moved forward, but it was a necessity for their business."
The team netted embarrassing results in the last two years, but during 2008 invested millions of Honda dollars setting the groundwork for the current BGP001 chassis.
With Mercedes power, the 'Brawn GP' car collected both poles and both wins from the opening two grands prix of 2009.
F1 chief executive Bernie Ecclestone is surprised the Japanese manufacturer did not realise it had overseen the design of a winning car before pulling out.
"They'd spent an awful lot of money, hadn't gotten anywhere and probably didn't realise the potential," he said last weekend in Malaysia.
"I'm sure if they had, they wouldn't have gone because all this would have been Honda otherwise."
A Honda spokeswoman declined to comment.
04-08-2009, 04:46 PM
#449
http://www.f1technical.net/news/12099
Italian fans want Alonso in a Ferrari
In a recent survey conducted by the Italian newspaper 'La Gazzetta dello Sport' nearly 42% of the voters chose Fernando Alonso as their favourite driver for a seat with Ferrari, interestingly beating out the current driver pair of Felipe Massa and Kimi Raikkonen. Furthermore, it is highly speculated that Alonso already signed a contract with Scuderia as Raikkonen's contract expires in 2010.
1. Fernando Alonso 42%
2. Robert Kubica 24.6%
3. Felipe Massa 16.8%
4. Kimi Raikkonen 8.9%
5. Lewis Hamilton 8.2%
Italian fans want Alonso in a Ferrari
In a recent survey conducted by the Italian newspaper 'La Gazzetta dello Sport' nearly 42% of the voters chose Fernando Alonso as their favourite driver for a seat with Ferrari, interestingly beating out the current driver pair of Felipe Massa and Kimi Raikkonen. Furthermore, it is highly speculated that Alonso already signed a contract with Scuderia as Raikkonen's contract expires in 2010.
1. Fernando Alonso 42%
2. Robert Kubica 24.6%
3. Felipe Massa 16.8%
4. Kimi Raikkonen 8.9%
5. Lewis Hamilton 8.2%
04-08-2009, 04:47 PM
#450
http://www.f1technical.net/news/12098
F1 teams should leave the FIA and FOM - Legault
The current way Formula One is operated is not good for the teams, and they could actually be better off on their own, says Normand Legault, promoter for the Canadian GP. If the teams were to abandon the FIA and the FOM, they would be able to run their own series and increase their individual revenues, instead of giving 50% to Formula One Management group, run by Bernie Ecclestone.
"The teams could leave tomorrow morning," Legault told Canadian newspaper 'La Presse', "They could call it the Grand Prix World Championship. If you have Ferrari, BMW, Williams, if you have Lewis Hamilton, that seems pretty much like the real thing."
Also talking about the revenue split between the teams and the FOM, "In F1, the guy who manages the business costs you 50 percent of your revenues."
This issue has long been on the teams' agendas, as they are frequently debating with the FOM as to whether there should be an increase in their share of the revenues, something Ecclestone is strongly against.
F1 teams should leave the FIA and FOM - Legault
The current way Formula One is operated is not good for the teams, and they could actually be better off on their own, says Normand Legault, promoter for the Canadian GP. If the teams were to abandon the FIA and the FOM, they would be able to run their own series and increase their individual revenues, instead of giving 50% to Formula One Management group, run by Bernie Ecclestone.
"The teams could leave tomorrow morning," Legault told Canadian newspaper 'La Presse', "They could call it the Grand Prix World Championship. If you have Ferrari, BMW, Williams, if you have Lewis Hamilton, that seems pretty much like the real thing."
Also talking about the revenue split between the teams and the FOM, "In F1, the guy who manages the business costs you 50 percent of your revenues."
This issue has long been on the teams' agendas, as they are frequently debating with the FOM as to whether there should be an increase in their share of the revenues, something Ecclestone is strongly against.