Official 2009 Formula 1 Season Discussion
05-18-2009, 01:08 PM
#576
New Teams for 2010 & 2011 Round-Up
Info on a possible new French team:
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...18130902.shtml
The news is that formation of a team is in trouble and I haven't even heard of their possible existence before?
Richards not committing to 2010 team entry (this would be Prodrive or Aston Martin):
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...18150547.shtml
Racing Engineering (Spain) hoping to enter F1 in 2011
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...ter-f1-in-2011
A Spanish group was looking into buying the Honda team when it was for sale with the dream of hiring Alonso as a driver.
Q & A with USF1's Ken Anderson
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75428
Not much new. Possible drivers names floated. Timelines defined.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...18130902.shtml
The news is that formation of a team is in trouble and I haven't even heard of their possible existence before?
Richards not committing to 2010 team entry (this would be Prodrive or Aston Martin):
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...18150547.shtml
Racing Engineering (Spain) hoping to enter F1 in 2011
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...ter-f1-in-2011
A Spanish group was looking into buying the Honda team when it was for sale with the dream of hiring Alonso as a driver.
Q & A with USF1's Ken Anderson
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75428
Not much new. Possible drivers names floated. Timelines defined.
05-19-2009, 12:32 PM
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Michael Shcu and Alonso now voice their thoughts on the whole cap.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090519....ri-quit-threat
Michael Schumacher, who won five consecutive world championships for the Italian team, has voiced his support for Ferrari amid its battle with formula one's ruling body.
The 40-year-old German, who stopped racing at the end of 2006 but remained with the Maranello based team as a part-time advisor, echoed the backing already proffered by Ferrari's current drivers Felipe Massa and Kimi Raikkonen.
"I am in complete agreement with my team," Schumacher is quoted as saying by the Spanish sports daily Marca.
He said the ball is in the FIA's court to settle the dispute.
"Ferrari is very important to formula one, because without Ferrari, the championship would be a second-class competition.
"There must be an agreement that makes it possible for the Scuderia to remain. F1 without Ferrari seems unimaginable to me," added Schumacher.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090519....-teams--alonso
The FIA should weigh considerations about formula one's future rules with the wishes of its existing teams, according to Fernando Alonso.
Speaking at a sponsor event on Tuesday, the Spaniard - whose employer Renault has threatened to quit the sport over the budget cap row - said he has sympathy for the rebel teams' position.
Ferrari, Red Bull and Toyota have also clearly threatened to walk away over the FIA row, and Alonso believes their concerns should be listened to seriously.
"What has made formula one the spectacle it is are the great teams," the 27-year-old told the Spanish newspaper Diario AS.
"For that reason it is not right to leave them to one side in favour of trying to get three new teams to come in," Alonso said.
For fear of more Honda-like departures, Max Mosley is proposing the imposition of low budget caps from next year, while raising the number of vacant two-car teams from 12 to 13.
"In the Premier League it would be unthinkable to have vacancies so there has to be something wrong," the FIA president said.
Alonso, however, believes the fear of turning off F1's existing names should at least be considered over the desire for new, smaller outfits.
"It is not that the big teams don't want them (new teams), but you can't just try everything so they can come in and then lose seven of the teams that made formula one what it is," he said.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090519....ri-quit-threat
Michael Schumacher, who won five consecutive world championships for the Italian team, has voiced his support for Ferrari amid its battle with formula one's ruling body.
The 40-year-old German, who stopped racing at the end of 2006 but remained with the Maranello based team as a part-time advisor, echoed the backing already proffered by Ferrari's current drivers Felipe Massa and Kimi Raikkonen.
"I am in complete agreement with my team," Schumacher is quoted as saying by the Spanish sports daily Marca.
He said the ball is in the FIA's court to settle the dispute.
"Ferrari is very important to formula one, because without Ferrari, the championship would be a second-class competition.
"There must be an agreement that makes it possible for the Scuderia to remain. F1 without Ferrari seems unimaginable to me," added Schumacher.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090519....-teams--alonso
The FIA should weigh considerations about formula one's future rules with the wishes of its existing teams, according to Fernando Alonso.
Speaking at a sponsor event on Tuesday, the Spaniard - whose employer Renault has threatened to quit the sport over the budget cap row - said he has sympathy for the rebel teams' position.
Ferrari, Red Bull and Toyota have also clearly threatened to walk away over the FIA row, and Alonso believes their concerns should be listened to seriously.
"What has made formula one the spectacle it is are the great teams," the 27-year-old told the Spanish newspaper Diario AS.
"For that reason it is not right to leave them to one side in favour of trying to get three new teams to come in," Alonso said.
For fear of more Honda-like departures, Max Mosley is proposing the imposition of low budget caps from next year, while raising the number of vacant two-car teams from 12 to 13.
"In the Premier League it would be unthinkable to have vacancies so there has to be something wrong," the FIA president said.
Alonso, however, believes the fear of turning off F1's existing names should at least be considered over the desire for new, smaller outfits.
"It is not that the big teams don't want them (new teams), but you can't just try everything so they can come in and then lose seven of the teams that made formula one what it is," he said.
05-20-2009, 12:02 AM
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Right now we have really competent and competitive teams. To enter Q3 you must be less than 6 tenth of a second from the winner of Q2. The fierce competition is created because almost all teams have a lot of experience in F1 and can create equally fast cars.
Take in a couple of new teams and we will have more spread in the pack. More spread will be less action and more boring races.
Take in a couple of new teams and we will have more spread in the pack. More spread will be less action and more boring races.
05-20-2009, 06:58 AM
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Four new teams confirm F1 plans
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75440
By Jonathan Noble Wednesday, May 20th 2009, 10:25 GMT
Formula 1 parc fermeFormer grand prix boss Nick Wirth, sportscar team Epsilon Euskadi, leading race car engineering company Ray Mallock Limited and GP2 outfit Campos Racing have joined the list of outfits confirming plans to compete in Formula 1 next year, AUTOSPORT has learned.
Although only a handful of outfits have gone public with their intention to make the step into F1 in 2010, a more expanded list of candidates emerged from the French courts on Tuesday during the hearing to discuss Ferrari's bid to get an injunction on next year's rules.
As part of the defence from the FIA that such an injunction would wreck the plans of new teams to make the jump to F1, AUTOSPORT understands that a number of letters were presented from new teams saying that any delay to them getting the go-ahead for 2010 plans would force them to abandon their efforts.
According to sources, the list of teams that were looking at moving to F1 were Lola, USF1, Wirth Research, Epsilon Euskadi, RML, Formtech, Campos Racing and iSport.
Another two outfits have also expressed an interest in moving up to F1. British F3 team Litespeed issued a statement declaring its intention to apply for an entry, while Prodrive has also admitted to be considering the move.
However, in recent days Prodrive boss David Richards has suggested that uncertainty over the 2010 regulations was forcing him to consider a rethink about his plans.
"The new regulations announced by the FIA are very much in line with what we were expecting and, I believe, have the potential to allow a team to be commercially viable and competitive on a far more realistic budget," he told GPWeek.
"However, we are very concerned about the controversy these proposals have created with the existing teams and the uncertainty that this has created."
Bernie Ecclestone has also talked about a second team from the United States expressing an interest.
FIA president Max Mosley made it clear last week that the governing body was unwilling to compromise on its plans for a £40 million voluntary budget cap because it was vital that new teams came into F1.
"If we wait any longer, we won't have any new teams because it is too late for them to come," he said. "I think there was an element among the FOTA teams hoping to delay until the point where there could be no new teams.
"I think we now have 11 organisations that say they want to come in, of whom seven are serious. So it will be interesting to see what happens."
Should Ferrari's injunction application be successful, then it will mean that all the 2010 regulations introduced by the FIA last month will be on hold - including the fact that the entry list for the 2010 championship closes on May 29.
With the matter likely to go to appeal whichever side wins, the delay in the entry list closure will buy manufacturer teams more time to propose alternative regulations to the FIA - even though it could force new entrants to abandon efforts.
A decision from the French courts is expected at 2pm local time on Wednesday.
By Jonathan Noble Wednesday, May 20th 2009, 10:25 GMT
Formula 1 parc fermeFormer grand prix boss Nick Wirth, sportscar team Epsilon Euskadi, leading race car engineering company Ray Mallock Limited and GP2 outfit Campos Racing have joined the list of outfits confirming plans to compete in Formula 1 next year, AUTOSPORT has learned.
Although only a handful of outfits have gone public with their intention to make the step into F1 in 2010, a more expanded list of candidates emerged from the French courts on Tuesday during the hearing to discuss Ferrari's bid to get an injunction on next year's rules.
As part of the defence from the FIA that such an injunction would wreck the plans of new teams to make the jump to F1, AUTOSPORT understands that a number of letters were presented from new teams saying that any delay to them getting the go-ahead for 2010 plans would force them to abandon their efforts.
According to sources, the list of teams that were looking at moving to F1 were Lola, USF1, Wirth Research, Epsilon Euskadi, RML, Formtech, Campos Racing and iSport.
Another two outfits have also expressed an interest in moving up to F1. British F3 team Litespeed issued a statement declaring its intention to apply for an entry, while Prodrive has also admitted to be considering the move.
However, in recent days Prodrive boss David Richards has suggested that uncertainty over the 2010 regulations was forcing him to consider a rethink about his plans.
"The new regulations announced by the FIA are very much in line with what we were expecting and, I believe, have the potential to allow a team to be commercially viable and competitive on a far more realistic budget," he told GPWeek.
"However, we are very concerned about the controversy these proposals have created with the existing teams and the uncertainty that this has created."
Bernie Ecclestone has also talked about a second team from the United States expressing an interest.
FIA president Max Mosley made it clear last week that the governing body was unwilling to compromise on its plans for a £40 million voluntary budget cap because it was vital that new teams came into F1.
"If we wait any longer, we won't have any new teams because it is too late for them to come," he said. "I think there was an element among the FOTA teams hoping to delay until the point where there could be no new teams.
"I think we now have 11 organisations that say they want to come in, of whom seven are serious. So it will be interesting to see what happens."
Should Ferrari's injunction application be successful, then it will mean that all the 2010 regulations introduced by the FIA last month will be on hold - including the fact that the entry list for the 2010 championship closes on May 29.
With the matter likely to go to appeal whichever side wins, the delay in the entry list closure will buy manufacturer teams more time to propose alternative regulations to the FIA - even though it could force new entrants to abandon efforts.
A decision from the French courts is expected at 2pm local time on Wednesday.
05-20-2009, 07:06 AM
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Right now we have really competent and competitive teams. To enter Q3 you must be less than 6 tenth of a second from the winner of Q2. The fierce competition is created because almost all teams have a lot of experience in F1 and can create equally fast cars.
Take in a couple of new teams and we will have more spread in the pack. More spread will be less action and more boring races.
Take in a couple of new teams and we will have more spread in the pack. More spread will be less action and more boring races.
In other news, there are more rumors of Alonso moving to Ferrari.
05-20-2009, 07:52 AM
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Breaking News: Court Rejects Ferrari's Bid to Stop F1 Budget Caps
http://sports.myway.com/news/05202009/v1741.html
AP May 20, 8:26 AM (ET)
PARIS (AP) -A French court has dismissed Ferrari's bid to stop Formula One's budget cap plans.
Ferrari was seeking a court injunction against governing body FIA's plans to introduce a voluntary $60 million budget cap starting next season.
Judge Jacques Gondrand de Robert rejection the appeal on Wednesday.
AP May 20, 8:26 AM (ET)
PARIS (AP) -A French court has dismissed Ferrari's bid to stop Formula One's budget cap plans.
Ferrari was seeking a court injunction against governing body FIA's plans to introduce a voluntary $60 million budget cap starting next season.
Judge Jacques Gondrand de Robert rejection the appeal on Wednesday.
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05-20-2009, 08:52 AM
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I hope ferrari leaves and joins the P class for lemans. every one knows that i do no like ferrari (motorsport that is) but i applaud them for trying. i really wish mclaren would step up to the plate and voice their opinions. but guess with the whole liegate deal, they are staying quiet.
j am really hoping that alot of teams leave F1. just to teach the FIA that theese teams are the reason why ppl buy tickets. I dont know what LOLA is capable of, all i know is they make shells for cars. so do they think ppl are going ot buy tickets to watch LOLA race? i dont even know who USf1 is lol. any how , i woud of like to see wht prodrive does in F1, they are awesome in the Rally series.
j am really hoping that alot of teams leave F1. just to teach the FIA that theese teams are the reason why ppl buy tickets. I dont know what LOLA is capable of, all i know is they make shells for cars. so do they think ppl are going ot buy tickets to watch LOLA race? i dont even know who USf1 is lol. any how , i woud of like to see wht prodrive does in F1, they are awesome in the Rally series.
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05-20-2009, 09:02 AM
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I hope ferrari leaves and joins the P class for lemans. every one knows that i do no like ferrari (motorsport that is) but i applaud them for trying. i really wish mclaren would step up to the plate and voice their opinions. but guess with the whole liegate deal, they are staying quiet.
05-20-2009, 09:19 AM
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Mercedes is getting tired of the problems with McLaren and the rumors are they are thinking about getting out of F1. Thats 3 (or 4?) teams that will be losing engines. If Ferrari leaves, were will their 2 other teams get engines from. Of course, Red Bull is talking about pulling out anyway. Can you say Cosworth spec engine. Isn't this what the FIA wanted all along?
F1 is becoming a huge joke. its sad that FIA is destroying my favorite series. there is no other series (besides Lemans) that i would wake up at 5am or stay up till 4am just to watch it live.
then when FIA announced that they just want one engine for the series, i thought they wehre on crack. what would be the point of having Toyota, Ferrari , mclaren in the series. yah they can modified the engine some, but it wouldnt be the same. i watch F1 to see ferrari vs mclaren and toyota vs honda (now its toyota vs who ever lol). i love seeing engine from company A vs engine from company B , C, etc. ,
if alot of fans of F1 dislikes the new changes to F1, what makes FIA think they will make more money with the new changes. more teams on track that no one reallys cares for is not the answer.
what fan is going to buy tickets just to watch Lola race? those fans buy tickets to watch Ferrari and other car companies race against each other.. maybe i am jumping ahead of my self. but i do know that i wont be into f1 that much next year i like watching teams work hard on their cars. not saying that budget cap would be any diffferent, but i feel that it wouldnt allow any adavance for technolgy..
I really hope that Ferrari joins Lemans, would love to see Toyota and BMW in the series also. i like GT part of the series, but nothing cant beat watching the P class cars waving in out of traffic due to the slow GT cars.. probably why i like wathcing Rolex series for the DP cars.
oh well i think i had my venting lol.
glad taht all of us F1 fans here feel the same. maybe this will be the last year that Aln brings awesome news about F1 to read about.
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05-20-2009, 12:28 PM
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usually i would say Ferrari is being arrogant as usual. but in tihs case i agree with them. the big teams spent so much money and hard work to get where they are at now. that all that work has gone down the drain.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090520....10-f1-hopefuls
Ferrari reacts scornfully on 2010 F1 hopefuls
May 20, 2009 7:34 PM
Filed Under: F1, Ferrari
Having lost its bid to have the 2010 rules declared invalid, Ferrari openly mocked a band of teams wanting to enter formula one next year.
In addition to the teams already revealed by the media as clamouring for a budget-capped spot on the 2010 grid, names including Wirth Research, Epsilon Euskadi, RML and Formtech were leaked as likely to make the May 29 deadline for an official entry.
As already reported, letters from the hopeful teams formed part of the FIA's defence in the Paris hearing.
"Can a world championship with teams like them - with due respect - have the same value as today's formula one, where Ferrari, the big car manufacturers and teams, who created the history of this sport, compete?" a statement posted by Ferrari said.
"Wouldn't it be more appropriate to call it Formula GP3?" the Maranello based marque
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090520....10-f1-hopefuls
Ferrari reacts scornfully on 2010 F1 hopefuls
May 20, 2009 7:34 PM
Filed Under: F1, Ferrari
Having lost its bid to have the 2010 rules declared invalid, Ferrari openly mocked a band of teams wanting to enter formula one next year.
In addition to the teams already revealed by the media as clamouring for a budget-capped spot on the 2010 grid, names including Wirth Research, Epsilon Euskadi, RML and Formtech were leaked as likely to make the May 29 deadline for an official entry.
As already reported, letters from the hopeful teams formed part of the FIA's defence in the Paris hearing.
"Can a world championship with teams like them - with due respect - have the same value as today's formula one, where Ferrari, the big car manufacturers and teams, who created the history of this sport, compete?" a statement posted by Ferrari said.
"Wouldn't it be more appropriate to call it Formula GP3?" the Maranello based marque
05-20-2009, 04:35 PM
#587
Top teams, drivers, to exit decimated F1
Words of warning from Raikkonen and Alonso 20/05/09 20:59
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...20205936.shtml
The big teams' quit threats are not being taken seriously by all, but top drivers in Monte Carlo on Wednesday warned that Formula One could ‘disappear’ amid its latest crisis.
The iconic Ferrari, enraged by the FIA's budget cap intentions, has been accused of self-interest and dramatic posturing, but its Finnish driver Kimi Raikkonen told reporters: "I'm pretty sure we are going to disappear from Formula One."
The 29-year-old, who won the drivers' title with the Maranello marque two years ago, said he is committed to staying with Ferrari in 2010.
"They will find something for me to do since they still have a contract with me. They are racing in many other categories," said Raikkonen.
Renault's Fernando Alonso, who before Raikkonen won the previous two world championships, also warned that the very fate of the premier category of single seater racing hinges on the outcome of this dispute.
"If everything is not settled, Formula One is finished and the sport will turn into GP2 with a little more pace, but there won't be any interest in it as an event," the Spaniard said.
Alonso said if a solution is not found, F1 will not only be lacking its biggest and most famous team names.
"I don't want to drive for a small team," he warned, and he said he will not be alone in looking elsewhere for a new premier series.
"If the seven teams go, Formula One disappears. With unknown drivers, it's over. You'll lose the ten best drivers in the world," said Alonso.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...20205936.shtml
The big teams' quit threats are not being taken seriously by all, but top drivers in Monte Carlo on Wednesday warned that Formula One could ‘disappear’ amid its latest crisis.
The iconic Ferrari, enraged by the FIA's budget cap intentions, has been accused of self-interest and dramatic posturing, but its Finnish driver Kimi Raikkonen told reporters: "I'm pretty sure we are going to disappear from Formula One."
The 29-year-old, who won the drivers' title with the Maranello marque two years ago, said he is committed to staying with Ferrari in 2010.
"They will find something for me to do since they still have a contract with me. They are racing in many other categories," said Raikkonen.
Renault's Fernando Alonso, who before Raikkonen won the previous two world championships, also warned that the very fate of the premier category of single seater racing hinges on the outcome of this dispute.
"If everything is not settled, Formula One is finished and the sport will turn into GP2 with a little more pace, but there won't be any interest in it as an event," the Spaniard said.
Alonso said if a solution is not found, F1 will not only be lacking its biggest and most famous team names.
"I don't want to drive for a small team," he warned, and he said he will not be alone in looking elsewhere for a new premier series.
"If the seven teams go, Formula One disappears. With unknown drivers, it's over. You'll lose the ten best drivers in the world," said Alonso.
05-21-2009, 01:15 PM
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http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...-legal-action/
Ferrari threatens more legal action
20 May 2009
Ferrari has again stated that more legal action could be taken after losing out in an appeal against the FIA through French law courts on Wednesday. The Italian marque, firmly against the 2010 budget cap, has again stressed that it will be pulling out of Formula One at the end of 2009 in the event of the new rule not being modified.
The reigning constructors' Champions elected to take action through French courts - with a negative verdict resulting for the team - on Wednesday; the Scuderia, the only name to have been in the sport since its inauguration in 1950, claimed that a 'right of veto' should have been sufficient to halt the introduction of the cap for next year.
'The Court believed that the right of veto should have been exercised during the (FIA) World Council meetings of 17th March and 29th April,' the statement read. It went on to state that 'Such a decision, which is not prejudicial to the outcome of the matter, allows the FIA to impose on those teams entered in the 2010 World Championship, regulations that have been drawn up unilaterally without respecting the agreed procedures.'
With the courts having denied the veto and dubbing it as 'not valid' on Wednesday, the Italian team is now considering further action ahead of next Friday's deadline for entries to the 2010 World Championship. The team has also reminded that it will depart F1 at the end of 2009 unless a rapid stand down of the budget cap occurs:
'Ferrari will not enter its cars in a competition that, with the planned scenario in place, would see a watering down of the characteristics that have endowed Formula 1 with the status of the most important motor sport series and that have specifically led to the Maranello marque's uninterrupted participation in the world championship since 1950. In this situation, Ferrari will continue to compete in races of a calibre worthy of the marque, matching its level of innovation and technological research.'
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Ferrari's drivers, and those other teams leaving F1, should wave good bye to the fans on the cool down lap after the race on Sunday to make a point that they are leaving.
Ferrari threatens more legal action
20 May 2009
Ferrari has again stated that more legal action could be taken after losing out in an appeal against the FIA through French law courts on Wednesday. The Italian marque, firmly against the 2010 budget cap, has again stressed that it will be pulling out of Formula One at the end of 2009 in the event of the new rule not being modified.
The reigning constructors' Champions elected to take action through French courts - with a negative verdict resulting for the team - on Wednesday; the Scuderia, the only name to have been in the sport since its inauguration in 1950, claimed that a 'right of veto' should have been sufficient to halt the introduction of the cap for next year.
'The Court believed that the right of veto should have been exercised during the (FIA) World Council meetings of 17th March and 29th April,' the statement read. It went on to state that 'Such a decision, which is not prejudicial to the outcome of the matter, allows the FIA to impose on those teams entered in the 2010 World Championship, regulations that have been drawn up unilaterally without respecting the agreed procedures.'
With the courts having denied the veto and dubbing it as 'not valid' on Wednesday, the Italian team is now considering further action ahead of next Friday's deadline for entries to the 2010 World Championship. The team has also reminded that it will depart F1 at the end of 2009 unless a rapid stand down of the budget cap occurs:
'Ferrari will not enter its cars in a competition that, with the planned scenario in place, would see a watering down of the characteristics that have endowed Formula 1 with the status of the most important motor sport series and that have specifically led to the Maranello marque's uninterrupted participation in the world championship since 1950. In this situation, Ferrari will continue to compete in races of a calibre worthy of the marque, matching its level of innovation and technological research.'
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Ferrari's drivers, and those other teams leaving F1, should wave good bye to the fans on the cool down lap after the race on Sunday to make a point that they are leaving.
05-21-2009, 01:59 PM
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I knew you will come around... I just had to give you some time.
I am so displeased with this whole fiasco... Seriously, the more I think about this, the more I understand Ferrari's position as well as Renault, Toyota and even Red Bull...
Think about it... How would you feel that if at work, after years of development and looong nights, where you have proven your value, 3 new kids come over and decide that they now have the same rights as you do and demand that you limit what you do because they are just starting... I don't think you'd like that too much... right?
This season is definitely going on the books...
Carlos
05-21-2009, 02:06 PM
#591
I don't think this has anything to do with new team per say. This is Max Mosley (the masochistic ****, ya I said that) and the FIA. They are worried that the teams will continue to increase costs to the point were eventually no one will be able to afford to race.
Instead, they have come up with regulations that will kill it off now.
Instead, they have come up with regulations that will kill it off now.
05-21-2009, 02:21 PM
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05-21-2009, 03:00 PM
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I don't think this has anything to do with new team per say. This is Max Mosley (the masochistic ****, ya I said that) and the FIA. They are worried that the teams will continue to increase costs to the point were eventually no one will be able to afford to race.
Instead, they have come up with regulations that will kill it off now.
Instead, they have come up with regulations that will kill it off now.
***...
05-21-2009, 03:15 PM
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I don't want to get sidetracked too much but there was a solution to that problem which involved putting in a chicane to keep the speed down. All the teams and Bernie were okay with it. Only Max said "no." Forcing all the cars to not race. It was his call that caused that to happen ultimately. He could have saved that race for the people but that's not what he cares about. He just wanted a 1 tire series and now he has it.