alfy28

your predictions suck . my prediction is, both ferrari's will be set on fire. hamitlon will have to stop and pull over to **** out the fire for them.

alfy28

btw ty aln for the pit chicks. enjoying the link

Pololo_RX8

Now this was FUNNY!!! LMAO! Thanks man... my coworker just asked me... WTF? why are laughing at?

Damn.. I still miss those Senna, Prost, Mansell, Hill battles... The ones today are nothing compared to those...

BTW, I agree that a good car is important to win races... No wonder Hamilton won the title last year, due to Ferrari's lack of reliability and Alonso's lack of a good car period...

Game on...

alnielsen

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Spot on, If Ferrari's reliability had been better, their drivers would have been fighting for the Driver Championship.

alfy28

lol



I dont know what F1 you are watching, but the past races hamilton has been driving his pants off. especially not making it into q1 but once the races is over he either from 5th-10th place. and that is starting off in the way back of the grid.

you just cant except that the messiah is back and working his way back up to the top . while your precious little masa and alonso are signing up for tryouts for their local cheerleading team

moRotorMotor

Oh snap!

alfy28

Pololo_RX8

Dammn.. these are some ugly cheerleaders!! Point taken ok? lol

Now if we in the US could get some WRC action, that will be awesome...

Carlos

ATL-GP

^^^^Yes, and if i'm not mistaken, it was Barachello that was kicking Button butt last year...in a POS car

ATL-GP

I just choked on my soda

alfy28

aln needs to make list of ferrari f1 fans here. so we can ban them for a week for supporting a team taht is being supported by the antichrist him self.

alnielsen

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It's not possible to ban my self.

alfy28

np, ill send a reques to chrism :P

alfy28

Probably by this time friday, Ferrari fans will be on their Knees, thanking Mercedes/ MClaren for asking for 100mill instead of the 40mil that the Antichrist i mean Mosley wanted

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090528....for-fota-split


[Without a rapid solution to the teams' FIA standoff, Force India and Brawn will be the next current teams to imminently sign up for the 2010 world championship.

It is now believed that the crisis is indeed nearly over, after at a Heathrow meeting on Wednesday, the FOTA alliance apparently agreed a compromise that is likely to be accepted by Max Mosley.

But with Friday still looming as the deadline for next year's entries, any further delays will result in Brawn and Force India - who like Williams see F1 as their core and only business - also breaking ranks and lodging the 2010 paperwork.

It is understood that, when Sir Frank Williams and team CEO Adam Parr were asked to leave the meeting room on Wednesday, Force India and Brawn did not join the other FOTA members in voting to expel the Grove based team.

As reported on Wednesday, however, the FOTA alliance is unlikely to fracture further, with Mercedes' Norbert Haug and McLaren's Martin Whitmarsh receiving much of the credit for the compromise that is now likely to speed towards a handshake deal.

The deal will involve a 100m euro budget cap next year, before Mosley's 45m figure arrives in 2011. As a sweetener for the teams, one more staff member per team - like Red Bull's highly-paid Adrian Newey - can be excluded from the cap in addition to the drivers and boss.

FIA president Mosley told La Gazzetta dello Sport this week: "I am willing to compromise, but only if small and new teams can operate with much lower budgets and are not much slower than the others."

The details of the technical compromises are still sketchy, but it is understood that component and informing sharing, and even the sanctioned use of whole customer cars in 2010, could be among them.

Mosley added: "I am very optimistic about a solution. The big and small teams have very different interests and we have to protect everyone.

"Will Ferrari enter by Friday? I think so. I am optimistic and confident. Ferrari is very important for formula one, but formula one is very important for Ferrari as well," he added.

alnielsen

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Peace in our time?

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=38032

28/05/2009

There is growing belief that the nine remaining teams that comprise FOTA have reached an agreement that will see them submit their entries for the 2010 World Championship, thereby bringing the budget cap row to an end.
It is thought that the teams have agreed a deal which would see a 45m euro budget cap introduced in 2011, while next season the teams would have to get by on around 100m euros.
FOTA has yet to issue an official statement, and these proposals have yet to be accepted by the FIA, however, it is a step in the right direction - away from the brink.
It is thought that the nine remaining teams will submit their entries for the 2010 championship tomorrow (Friday), thereby meeting the FIA's deadline. That said, there are sure to be certain conditions attached, most notably in respect of the FIA's governance of the sport.
While this might be seen as a welcome move by some, it is unlikely to prove popular with those new teams hoping to enter the sport next season, even though there is widespread scepticism as to the authenticity of some of the potential entries.
While USGPE has confirmed it entry, it is thought that David Richards' Prodrive will also be looking at securing one of the three vacant slots on the 2010 grid.

Richards procrastinates F1 entry until the last minute

http://www.f1technical.net/news/12523

Prodrive boss David Richards is waiting until the last possible minute before the deadline to enter the 2010 Formula One World Championsip. After years of teasing that his motorsport group will participate in this series, he continues to take his time and only talk about it, but hopefully this time around he will actually be true to his word.

'Auto Motor und Sport' quoted Richards as saying, "We already have the chassis designed and have started working on the infrastructure. We are watching closely too see what happens."

"Only shortly before the entry deadline for the 2010 season is when we will see Prodrive/Aston Martin join the line-up," he added lastly.

alnielsen

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This article by ITV.com is probably the best written on whats happening today.

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.a...45997&PO=45997

It seems that there are 5 teams seeking to fill 3 team spots on the grid. I hope USF1 gets selected. They did commit publicly very early, the US doesn't presently have a team and they have put down a deposit on Cosworth engines for the coming season.

The French are looking to get back their GP. Fuji & Hungary may go away. Rumor has it that the changes and associated costs to Indy for F1 almost costs Tony George his job as CEO. Don't look for another F1 at the IMS.

Pololo_RX8

ITV is definitely the site I go to for F1 info And in a way, I am glad F1 won't go back to Indy... Bring it to a street circuit type ala Monaco and you have a winner... Of course with so many $##@ rules and regulations in the US, that might be tough

On the other hand, I'd definitely like to have a US team be part of next year's F1. Heck bring even Danika in a swimsuit and I will no longer root for Alonso lol

Carlos

alnielsen

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There is a spot in NYC that they are looking at. A former railroad yard in SE Manhattan. With that location, I doubt that it will be dedicated track. They could configure the streets to make a interesting course. It would probably be mostly in a grid like fashion tho.

alfy28

me too, i dont care for indy track that much. i think they should use the track that they use in SCCA (not sure if that is correct series) in houston i believe. i wish i knew the track name, but i dotn watch that series that much. probably only seen like 2 races from taht series. but i do love the Caddy

also that track that is Long Beach (not sure if that is the correct place) its the one where the movie stars etc use for the stars series (more like bumper car series)

alnielsen

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F1 has tried to run in the south (Dallas, Phoenix & Las Vegas). The temperature was too hot for them.
BTW: When the F1 had the Phoenix GP, Eddie Cheever came in third. His only podium finish.

alnielsen

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Two more new teams filed 2010 entries (Now 7 new teams)
2009-06-01

By Motorsport.com/GMM

Jun.1 (GMM) Two more prospective small entrants are reported to have signed up to compete in next year's Formula One world championship.

While nine of the current teams lodged only conditional entries before last Friday's deadline, former champions Williams as well as new entrants USF1, Campos, Lola, Prodrive and Litespeed confirmed the filing of their official paperwork.

At the weekend, it then emerged that the veteran of nearly 70 grands prix Alex Wurz is bidding to run a team next year, to be called Team Superfund in deference to the Austrian investment company.

Also reportedly hoping for a spot on the 2010 grid is the iconic team name March, which while founded by a group involving Max Mosley in 1969 has been controlled since 1992 by Andrew Fitton.

Should the nine active FOTA teams ultimately be granted berths on next year's grid, then at least half of the hopeful new teams will not be green-lighted by the FIA.

The governing body's 2010 entry list, to feature a maximum of thirteen team names, will be published on June 12.

1 'will die' without new blood – Mosley

Major teams formed from the ashes of the independents
F1-Live.com 01/06/09 11:29

Max Mosley supports the influx of prospective new names to the Formula One entry list. The FIA President is fighting the majority of the sport's current teams over next year's budget cap rules, which have triggered multiple new entries filing entry paperwork for the 2010 world championship.

In a recent media document, Ferrari mocked the names of the prospective entrants, sardonically suggesting a renaming of the sport to 'Formula GP3' would be appropriate.

But while Mosley hopes the more established brands continue next year, he also insists attracting new blood is the right move for the sport.

"No sport is healthy without new people coming in," he said in an interview with the Deutsche Presse Agentur.

"Ferrari forget that the current BMW team started as Sauber, the current Williams team started with Williams buying a March.
Tyrrell started a little team at the end of the sixties that was Honda and is now Brawn.

"Even Enzo Ferrari himself came along in 1948 and started from nothing," said the 69-year-old, who was one of the founding members of March, and after leaving the team in 1977 began his ascent to power alongside Bernie Ecclestone.

"If you stopped those new entrepreneurs coming in Formula One will die. You can't have just a lot of old men running it."
..................

With 7 new teams availible to fill the grid (along with Williams), Mosley seems to have the upper hand in negotiations with FOTA. - alnielsen

alnielsen

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F1: The FIA's Two Choices ???

Posted by: Admin on Jun 01, 2009 - 05:49 AM
http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html...opic=1&catid=1

Rumor
F1: The FIA's Two Choices ?


After a weekend of speculation, the ball is now squarely in Max Mosley's court as the battle over budget caps continues.

Some sections of the media saw the FOTA teams' conditional entries for the 2010 world championship as the easing of their threats to quit the sport.

In fact, the crisis arguably deepened, with Ferrari's Stefano Domenicali clarifying that if the proposed budget cap rules are not binned, "the entries from the nine teams will be invalid".

The Italian team's driver Felipe Massa told the German newspaper Welt am Sonntag: "We will have to wait and see how the FIA reacts."

Similarly, the Italian newspaper Tuttosport observed: "Mosley will either accept the teams' stipulations, or he will not."

The official line is that in the wake of Williams' suspension, all the remaining FOTA teams are united in their opposition to the plans.

But Force India's Adrian Sutil pointed out that the dilemma belongs almost exclusively to the big-spending teams.

Asked about budget caps, he told Germany's Auto Motor und Sport: "Generally I think it's a good idea.

"I don't think we would have to change too much within our team. We would probably keep most of our people and keep doing our work as before."

Sutil added: "For the big teams it is going to be very difficult for them to get along with a tenth of their money."



PaddockTalk Perspective

Let's be very clear....

The FIA has two choices, to try to continue with new teams and the Williams entry or to try to come to some agreement with FOTA.

It is looking more and more like the FIA are going to try to field an entirely new grid, because they aren't interested in Formula One... Only the power that they have with it.

On a side note, any publication that continues to push the concept that ANYTHING was settled on Friday is completely, and foolishly wrong. There has been NO agreement on a budget cap, in fact, quite the opposite has taken place. FOTA rightly insists that the 2010 rules use the 2009 rules as a starting point. In 2009, there is no budget cap.

Even so.... the other key point here is that FOTA want direct control of the 'governance' of the sport. Until this is resolved, we believe there can be no way forward.

To solve it, means Mosley needs to give up power, or quit.

Does anyone actually think the power hungary [sic] dolt actually do either thing willingly ?

alfy28

Hey aln, do you know if ferrari signed up for 2010? for some reason i thought last friday was the deadline for signups.

ATL-GP

I don't want to sound like "Chicken Little"....but I don't like how this sounds:


FIA president Max Mosley has made it clear that the governing body will stand its ground over its controversial 2010 budget cap plan and will not bow to the demands of the Formula One Teams’ Association.

The nine active FOTA members – all of the current F1 grid bar Williams – submitted entries for the 2010 world championship last Friday, but said they were conditional on the planned budget cap being dropped and their influence over the rule-making process being restored via a new Concorde Agreement.

Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali and Toyota’s F1 president John Howett have since issued statements emphasising the teams’ resolve, with Domenicali declaring starkly that the nine entries would be “invalid” if FOTA’s terms are not met.

After keeping his own counsel for several days, Mosley has now thrown down the gauntlet to the nine ‘rebel’ teams – calling on them to set up their own championship if they are unhappy with F1’s current governance.

“I say to them: If you want to make the rules, then go and organise your own championship,” he told Swiss publication Motorsport Aktuell.

“But we have the Formula 1 championship. We draw up the rules for that.

“We’ve been doing that for 60 years and we will continue to do so.”

One of FOTA’s conditions is for a new Concorde Agreement – which would bind the signatory teams to F1 until 2012, but would also take rule-making power away from the FIA World Council – to be signed by June 12, when the governing body will announce the successful 2010 entrants.

But Mosley says there is insufficient time to finalise a new agreement by that date: “You cannot sign an agreement that was drawn up so late by June 12.”

He also suggested FOTA’s conditions are a delaying tactic intended to keep out prospective new teams.

“It’s quite clear that they want to slow down the process of application to the championship so that it will be too late for the new teams,” he said.

A steady stream of new teams – of varying degrees of credibility – have confirmed that their intention to join F1 next year under the budget cap option, as has Williams; while the FIA insists that Ferrari is bound by contractual obligations to compete until 2012.

So although the united stance of the nine FOTA teams gives them a strong negotiating hand, the FIA is holding out the threat that they will lose their places on next year’s grid unless they drop their conditions and sign up to the regulations as they currently stand.

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=46018

alfy28

man i wish ferrari and the other main teams leave f1. I may dislike ferrari in motorsports, but i am not blinded by my dislike for them, ferrari probably brings in about 70%-80% of the fans to watch F1.

if max really think these fans want to watch no name companies race, then these main teams should leave. then we can sit back and laugh at max, because with out the main teams, F1 will lose money.

but since FIA is holding ferrari ***** with the contract, i guess we will have to wait and see what happens.

i hate to say this since i am a ferrari F1 team hater, but i hope ferrari gives max what he deserves which is a middle finger salute.