Official 2010 Formula 1 Season Discussion
02-12-2010, 09:42 AM
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Cosworth 'better' than Toyota's F1 engine - Hulkenberg
Nico Hulkenberg has admitted that returning engine supplier Cosworth's V8 unit feels "better" and "stronger" than the Toyota power plant.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=357294:F1
Nico Hulkenberg has admitted that returning engine supplier Cosworth's V8 unit feels "better" and "stronger" than the Toyota power plant.
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=357294:F1
02-12-2010, 12:42 PM
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Lotus launches 2010 car in London
Lotus became the latest Formula 1 team to launch its 2010 challenger, as the wraps officially came off the new car in London on Friday.
More at: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81458
Also: http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=39938
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-...127-in-london/
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81458
Lotus became the latest Formula 1 team to launch its 2010 challenger, as the wraps officially came off the new car in London on Friday.
More at: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81458
Also: http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=39938
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-...127-in-london/
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81458
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02-12-2010, 09:24 PM
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A war is brewin at the ferrari camp, and Polo is stuck in the middle. Whose side will he take, the ever so flamer like Alonoso, or the smooth operator Massa. Stay tune to next , when we find out the answer.
I would post the article, but posting from the droid.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11002122...ish-media-spat
I would post the article, but posting from the droid.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11002122...ish-media-spat
02-13-2010, 12:36 PM
#282
Michelin ponders a return to Formula One
Michelin is in talks with the FIA about a possible return to Formula One after withdrawing from the sport at the end of 2006.
With Bridgestone pulling out as the sport's official sole supplier at the end of 2010, Michelin's Jean-Dominique Senard said formal discussions with the governing body were underway.
"We might consider returning but there are some very clear conditions," Senard said in an interview in Paris. He said the tyre rules need changing to "show the performance they can bring, notably in terms of fuel saving and CO2 reductions".
An FIA spokesman declined to comment.
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/8743.html
Michelin is in talks with the FIA about a possible return to Formula One after withdrawing from the sport at the end of 2006.
With Bridgestone pulling out as the sport's official sole supplier at the end of 2010, Michelin's Jean-Dominique Senard said formal discussions with the governing body were underway.
"We might consider returning but there are some very clear conditions," Senard said in an interview in Paris. He said the tyre rules need changing to "show the performance they can bring, notably in terms of fuel saving and CO2 reductions".
An FIA spokesman declined to comment.
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/8743.html
02-15-2010, 10:37 AM
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POLO is going to be really excited about this articl3e.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...0/2/10437.html
Lewis Hamilton clocked the fastest time of the week around Jerez on Saturday as the four-day test drew to a close in Spain. With the track dry for the majority of the day, the McLaren star set a best lap of 1m 19.533s late in the final hour, putting him over half a second clear of closest rival, Force India’s Adrian Sutil.
Hamilton spent the early part of the day running through an aero mapping programme, with distinctive measuring rakes fitted to the car, before evaluating brake and brake materials while also working on weight distribution. His best lap came on his final run on a fresh set of dry tyres.
Sutil ran through systems checks, set-up evaluation and tyre comparisons to bring Force India’s total test mileage with the new VJM03 to more than 1,200km.
“Set-up wise, we were pretty good already and the car balance is not so far away,” said the German. “We also tried a couple of longer runs and saving the tyres seems to be the key point as we could set some quick times on the early laps but then the tyres dropped off towards the end of the runs. We weren't going for a time, just trying to get as much information as possible at this stage to feed back into the programme for next week.”
Rubens Barrichello was third fastest for Williams, the team focussing on set-up and systems work before a gearbox problem brought a slightly premature end to their day. The issue is now being investigated.
“The car has performed well these past two days and we’ve discovered some interesting things which will help us move it forward,” said the Brazilian driver. “I was hoping to go for a performance run at the end of the day because the car felt good, but unfortunately my session was cut short. There’s work to do in terms of improving performance, but I’m happy with the results that are coming out.”
Renault reported improvements in the performance and driveability of the R30 as Robert Kubica went fourth fastest. "We were unlucky again with the weather this morning but it was dry in the afternoon and we managed to improve the car quite a bit,” said the Pole. “Each day of testing the car feels better and the progress we have made this week confirms that we are moving in the right direction."
Michael Schumacher set the fifth fastest time of the day as he returned to the cockpit of Mercedes’ MGP W01. "We completed everything that we wanted and were able to increase our understanding of the car a step further so overall it's been positive,” stated the German. “It's very tough to understand the order of the teams just yet as everyone can play so much with the fuel loads. So there is a lot of speculation going on but it's very interesting!"
A fuel pump failure in the afternoon cost Red Bull around three hours of dry running time, but Sebastian Vettel still managed 90 laps on his way to sixth in the time sheets. Ian Morgan, the team’s head of race engineering said: “It’s been a productive first week with the RB6, despite the weather and lack of dry conditions. We’re pleased with the car overall, it’s showing a lot of promise.”
Felipe Massa was again on duty for Ferrari, completing a long run in the morning and then concentrating on tyre comparison work in the afternoon. The Brazilian was seventh quickest in the F10.
Eighth spot went to Pedro de la Rosa in the BMW Sauber C29. "In the morning we started with a long-run of 20 laps on intermediate tyres,” explained Giampaolo Dall'Ara, the team’s head of track engineering. “We then worked on the mechanical set- up of the car. Around half past two we swapped into a tyre comparison programme and in the end we carried out some aero tests. Because of the difficult weather situation this week in Jerez we are a little below expectations in terms of mileage but we still managed to cover all our topics and had no major technical problems."
For Virgin, it was the first real opportunity to gauge the relative performance of the VR-01 in the dry, as Lucas di Grassi completed 63 laps en route to ninth place. “The car was behaving much better after the work we did since yesterday and I think what we have achieved today is a very good start for our team,” said the Brazilian.
Technical director Nick Wirth added: “It is very pleasing to end our first test on such a positive note, having finally achieved some solid running in dry conditions. We have remained focused on the job list in hand and given that we have been working with a representative fuel load to evaluate various set-ups, our lap time and rate of progress is encouraging at this very early stage.”
Completing Saturday’s line-up was Jaime Alguersuari in the Toro Rosso. The Spaniard carried out race set-up work, using the soft and medium Bridgestone tyres, and a back-to-back comparison of some aero parts.
“I’m pleased with how these two days of testing went,” said Alguersuari. “It was very useful to drive the car with different fuel loads and in different track conditions, in the dry, in the wet and ‘intermediate’ conditions. Overall, it has been a positive week for me and also for the team.”
Testing resumes at Jerez next week, with another four-day session commencing on Wednesday February 17.
Unofficial Saturday times from Jerez:
1. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 1:19.583, 113 Laps
2. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 1:20.180, 84 Laps
3. Rubens Barrichello, Williams, 1:20.341, 90 Laps
4. Robert Kubica, Renault, 1:20.358, 86 Laps
5. Michael Schumacher, Mercedes GP, 1:20.613, 84 Laps
6. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1:21.203, 90 Laps
7. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 1:21.486, 160 Laps
8. Pedro de la Rosa, BMW Sauber, 1:22.134, 105 Laps
9. Lucas di Grassi, Virgin, 1:22.912, 63 Laps
10. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 1:24.072, 98 Laps
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...0/2/10437.html
Lewis Hamilton clocked the fastest time of the week around Jerez on Saturday as the four-day test drew to a close in Spain. With the track dry for the majority of the day, the McLaren star set a best lap of 1m 19.533s late in the final hour, putting him over half a second clear of closest rival, Force India’s Adrian Sutil.
Hamilton spent the early part of the day running through an aero mapping programme, with distinctive measuring rakes fitted to the car, before evaluating brake and brake materials while also working on weight distribution. His best lap came on his final run on a fresh set of dry tyres.
Sutil ran through systems checks, set-up evaluation and tyre comparisons to bring Force India’s total test mileage with the new VJM03 to more than 1,200km.
“Set-up wise, we were pretty good already and the car balance is not so far away,” said the German. “We also tried a couple of longer runs and saving the tyres seems to be the key point as we could set some quick times on the early laps but then the tyres dropped off towards the end of the runs. We weren't going for a time, just trying to get as much information as possible at this stage to feed back into the programme for next week.”
Rubens Barrichello was third fastest for Williams, the team focussing on set-up and systems work before a gearbox problem brought a slightly premature end to their day. The issue is now being investigated.
“The car has performed well these past two days and we’ve discovered some interesting things which will help us move it forward,” said the Brazilian driver. “I was hoping to go for a performance run at the end of the day because the car felt good, but unfortunately my session was cut short. There’s work to do in terms of improving performance, but I’m happy with the results that are coming out.”
Renault reported improvements in the performance and driveability of the R30 as Robert Kubica went fourth fastest. "We were unlucky again with the weather this morning but it was dry in the afternoon and we managed to improve the car quite a bit,” said the Pole. “Each day of testing the car feels better and the progress we have made this week confirms that we are moving in the right direction."
Michael Schumacher set the fifth fastest time of the day as he returned to the cockpit of Mercedes’ MGP W01. "We completed everything that we wanted and were able to increase our understanding of the car a step further so overall it's been positive,” stated the German. “It's very tough to understand the order of the teams just yet as everyone can play so much with the fuel loads. So there is a lot of speculation going on but it's very interesting!"
A fuel pump failure in the afternoon cost Red Bull around three hours of dry running time, but Sebastian Vettel still managed 90 laps on his way to sixth in the time sheets. Ian Morgan, the team’s head of race engineering said: “It’s been a productive first week with the RB6, despite the weather and lack of dry conditions. We’re pleased with the car overall, it’s showing a lot of promise.”
Felipe Massa was again on duty for Ferrari, completing a long run in the morning and then concentrating on tyre comparison work in the afternoon. The Brazilian was seventh quickest in the F10.
Eighth spot went to Pedro de la Rosa in the BMW Sauber C29. "In the morning we started with a long-run of 20 laps on intermediate tyres,” explained Giampaolo Dall'Ara, the team’s head of track engineering. “We then worked on the mechanical set- up of the car. Around half past two we swapped into a tyre comparison programme and in the end we carried out some aero tests. Because of the difficult weather situation this week in Jerez we are a little below expectations in terms of mileage but we still managed to cover all our topics and had no major technical problems."
For Virgin, it was the first real opportunity to gauge the relative performance of the VR-01 in the dry, as Lucas di Grassi completed 63 laps en route to ninth place. “The car was behaving much better after the work we did since yesterday and I think what we have achieved today is a very good start for our team,” said the Brazilian.
Technical director Nick Wirth added: “It is very pleasing to end our first test on such a positive note, having finally achieved some solid running in dry conditions. We have remained focused on the job list in hand and given that we have been working with a representative fuel load to evaluate various set-ups, our lap time and rate of progress is encouraging at this very early stage.”
Completing Saturday’s line-up was Jaime Alguersuari in the Toro Rosso. The Spaniard carried out race set-up work, using the soft and medium Bridgestone tyres, and a back-to-back comparison of some aero parts.
“I’m pleased with how these two days of testing went,” said Alguersuari. “It was very useful to drive the car with different fuel loads and in different track conditions, in the dry, in the wet and ‘intermediate’ conditions. Overall, it has been a positive week for me and also for the team.”
Testing resumes at Jerez next week, with another four-day session commencing on Wednesday February 17.
Unofficial Saturday times from Jerez:
1. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 1:19.583, 113 Laps
2. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 1:20.180, 84 Laps
3. Rubens Barrichello, Williams, 1:20.341, 90 Laps
4. Robert Kubica, Renault, 1:20.358, 86 Laps
5. Michael Schumacher, Mercedes GP, 1:20.613, 84 Laps
6. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 1:21.203, 90 Laps
7. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 1:21.486, 160 Laps
8. Pedro de la Rosa, BMW Sauber, 1:22.134, 105 Laps
9. Lucas di Grassi, Virgin, 1:22.912, 63 Laps
10. Jaime Alguersuari, Toro Rosso, 1:24.072, 98 Laps
02-16-2010, 02:36 PM
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A war is brewin at the ferrari camp, and Polo is stuck in the middle. Whose side will he take, the ever so flamer like Alonoso, or the smooth operator Massa. Stay tune to next , when we find out the answer.
I would post the article, but posting from the droid.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11002122...ish-media-spat
I would post the article, but posting from the droid.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11002122...ish-media-spat
I know Massa must feel all the pressure now but heck it's life... If you don't have what it takes, move on...
I still think the Ferrari team will do good this year. The problem will lie when Luca will have to choose who is #1, and I believe Massa already knows that answer.
Carlos
02-16-2010, 03:17 PM
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Damn... This is completely uncalled for!!. At the end of the day, if I was to choose between Alonso and Massa, I'll choose Alonso anytime. He has come together as a driver and as a person.
I know Massa must feel all the pressure now but heck it's life... If you don't have what it takes, move on...
I still think the Ferrari team will do good this year. The problem will lie when Luca will have to choose who is #1, and I believe Massa already knows that answer.
Carlos
I know Massa must feel all the pressure now but heck it's life... If you don't have what it takes, move on...
I still think the Ferrari team will do good this year. The problem will lie when Luca will have to choose who is #1, and I believe Massa already knows that answer.
Carlos
Ferrari should of gotten rid of Massa, and kept Kimi
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02-16-2010, 05:05 PM
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I feel so sorry for you bro. it must be really hard to take sides. But the good news is, I think they both are getting along, I think it’s just media hype. But at least we know that , you have straight eye, for the queer guy.
Ferrari should of gotten rid of Massa, and kept Kimi
Ferrari should of gotten rid of Massa, and kept Kimi
Massa seems like the nicer person of the two. I'll always think of Fernando as a ruthless backstabber. Even his manager got it from him when he wasn't told of the move to McLaren until it was already done. And the spygate episode, wow! He was one of the people getting the ill-gotten information. It makes you wonder with the Picquet crash if he didn't know more about that as well.
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02-16-2010, 05:40 PM
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What if Massa kicks Alonso's ***?
Massa seems like the nicer person of the two. I'll always think of Fernando as a ruthless backstabber. Even his manager got it from him when he wasn't told of the move to McLaren until it was already done. And the spygate episode, wow! He was one of the people getting the ill-gotten information. It makes you wonder with the Picquet crash if he didn't know more about that as well.
Paul.
Massa seems like the nicer person of the two. I'll always think of Fernando as a ruthless backstabber. Even his manager got it from him when he wasn't told of the move to McLaren until it was already done. And the spygate episode, wow! He was one of the people getting the ill-gotten information. It makes you wonder with the Picquet crash if he didn't know more about that as well.
Paul.
Funny enough, for all his ruthless reputation, Michael Schumacher was and still is very loyal to the people that got him there. Alonso definitely does not have that.
02-16-2010, 06:03 PM
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Alonso has been involved in two of the three big scandals that involved actual racing in F1 in recent years (that would be Spygate and Crashgate; he did miss Liegate - incidentally Hamilton is also 2 for 3). Alonso is the complete package when it comes to being a driver, but you just feel that he'd sell you down the river if it meant a better shot at success.
Funny enough, for all his ruthless reputation, Michael Schumacher was and still is very loyal to the people that got him there. Alonso definitely does not have that.
Funny enough, for all his ruthless reputation, Michael Schumacher was and still is very loyal to the people that got him there. Alonso definitely does not have that.
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02-16-2010, 09:40 PM
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I admire Michael as a driver. I never liked Ferrari until he started driving for them. I actually hated Ferrari for the seemingly unlimited money they had to spend on the sport. I laughed at them in ridicule, much like Alfy, on their inability to perform. Presently, I continue with a mild support because there hasn't been another driver/team that excited me. With Michael back, I may become a strong Mercedes fan.
I agree that Alonso is always out for #1. I thought that his chasing to get a ride with the number 1 team, while unsuccessful, taught him a little humility.
I agree that Alonso is always out for #1. I thought that his chasing to get a ride with the number 1 team, while unsuccessful, taught him a little humility.
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02-17-2010, 12:52 AM
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02-17-2010, 05:41 AM
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It does not look too bright for USF1. We will see if they actually make it to a race or not.
Further doubt has been cast over the future of US F1 after a key member of its management is believed to have left the squad.
It is reported Brian Bonner, the head of business development, is no longer working with US F1, amid further rumours that other staff are growing impatient about not being paid. There is also speculation that YouTube founder Chad Hurley has pulled the plug on his backing of the outfit, with some reports suggesting he is in talks with rivals Campos and F1 hopefuls Stefan GP about joining forces.
On Tuesday it emerged that US F1's base, in which it is a tenant until 2014, is up for sale for US$3 million. However, in a statement the team denied there was any cause for concern. "US F1 has a long term lease on the building so there are no worries there," a spokesman said. "It is absolutely US F1's intention to compete this season."
But time is running short as, with just under a month until the first race of the season, it has yet to announce a second driver to partner Jose Maria Lopez and has not set a firm date to launch its car. Meanwhile 11 of its competitors are testing in Jerez this week and Stefan GP, which has its own testing schedule planned, is ready to step in should a place on the grid become available.
Speaking to ESPNF1 Lotus technical chief Mike Gascoyne said it was incomprehensible how a Formula One team could be a serious prospect for this season without having a firm launch schedule.
"It was quite funny for us to hear some of the new teams saying they didn't know when they would fire up," Gascoyne said. "We knew from the day we submitted the entry when we could be ready. If you are a proper outfit, with a proper design and production schedule, you know exactly when you have to do these things."
http://en.espnf1.com/teamus/motorsport/story/8900.html
Further doubt has been cast over the future of US F1 after a key member of its management is believed to have left the squad.
It is reported Brian Bonner, the head of business development, is no longer working with US F1, amid further rumours that other staff are growing impatient about not being paid. There is also speculation that YouTube founder Chad Hurley has pulled the plug on his backing of the outfit, with some reports suggesting he is in talks with rivals Campos and F1 hopefuls Stefan GP about joining forces.
On Tuesday it emerged that US F1's base, in which it is a tenant until 2014, is up for sale for US$3 million. However, in a statement the team denied there was any cause for concern. "US F1 has a long term lease on the building so there are no worries there," a spokesman said. "It is absolutely US F1's intention to compete this season."
But time is running short as, with just under a month until the first race of the season, it has yet to announce a second driver to partner Jose Maria Lopez and has not set a firm date to launch its car. Meanwhile 11 of its competitors are testing in Jerez this week and Stefan GP, which has its own testing schedule planned, is ready to step in should a place on the grid become available.
Speaking to ESPNF1 Lotus technical chief Mike Gascoyne said it was incomprehensible how a Formula One team could be a serious prospect for this season without having a firm launch schedule.
"It was quite funny for us to hear some of the new teams saying they didn't know when they would fire up," Gascoyne said. "We knew from the day we submitted the entry when we could be ready. If you are a proper outfit, with a proper design and production schedule, you know exactly when you have to do these things."
http://en.espnf1.com/teamus/motorsport/story/8900.html
02-17-2010, 10:17 AM
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What if Massa kicks Alonso's ***?
Massa seems like the nicer person of the two. I'll always think of Fernando as a ruthless backstabber. Even his manager got it from him when he wasn't told of the move to McLaren until it was already done. And the spygate episode, wow! He was one of the people getting the ill-gotten information. It makes you wonder with the Picquet crash if he didn't know more about that as well.
Paul.
Massa seems like the nicer person of the two. I'll always think of Fernando as a ruthless backstabber. Even his manager got it from him when he wasn't told of the move to McLaren until it was already done. And the spygate episode, wow! He was one of the people getting the ill-gotten information. It makes you wonder with the Picquet crash if he didn't know more about that as well.
Paul.
Personally I do like massa, but I like Kimi more. To be honest, I still wish it was massa/kimi.
Even though Alonoso has changed, ever since he want back to Renault. I still cant find my self respecting the arsehole. Yah he may have a nice smile, but he has horns growing out of his head.
And i just cant see my self, liking the antichrist. Hamilton (christ) extended his arm to reform Alonso, but due to his antichrist ways, Hamilton had no choice but to abolish him back to hell.
02-17-2010, 10:21 AM
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I cant picture my camp being destroyed by Aln, he might take you and other followers away from me, and I cant fight the ferrari camp alone. Who would do my evil bidding agains Polo and Bse and all the other flamer's?
02-17-2010, 10:40 AM
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oh craP, i posted outside of PM. Now they know that I am a false prophet.
But yah, it sucks being a fanboy . i have to act like i hate their drivers lol
But the only driver i do not like is, Alonso. and that is fact
when it comes to F1, i just love joking. it reminds me of the times growing up in japan, with my fellow friends. who are huge f1 fans, and ferrari fans. so playing with you guys, makes me think of them.
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02-17-2010, 04:40 PM
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Arigato Alfy San.
This is indeed a fun place to hang out, tell each other like it is and not get too wrapped up in all the political BS a forum could foster.
Funny I guess I am an "Antrichrist" follower as Alonso is my favorite driver! and even funnier that the ONLY guy I completely dislike and could care less of is Hamilton!
I don't need no "stinking" PMs to share what I think like "others" here... lol lol I tell it like it is... and YES I LOVE FERRARI!!! Heck I still have a piece of the Monza track in a nice vase from 1998 when Ferrari won 1-2 (Shumi-Irvine).
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02-18-2010, 07:05 AM
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WTF is up with USF1!?!?!?! This on again off again mess is so amateure. One good thing, my boy JV might be back!!! I'd love to see him and Schuy duke it out again
02-18-2010, 07:14 AM
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As a European it is kind of fun to remember how USF1 went out saying: We will do this with American technology and American talents and show the world just how good we are and how we can do this much smarter than anyone else.
Well I must admit that I am chuckling a bit considering that of the new teams USF1 was the team making the most noise of how great and how smart their engineering would be. Well we will see soon if they reach the grid at all.
And yes I know the main problem is sponsor money, not the engineering but still it shows once again that you should be careful before saying you are the best...
Well I must admit that I am chuckling a bit considering that of the new teams USF1 was the team making the most noise of how great and how smart their engineering would be. Well we will see soon if they reach the grid at all.
And yes I know the main problem is sponsor money, not the engineering but still it shows once again that you should be careful before saying you are the best...
02-18-2010, 07:33 AM
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I only believe half of what we hear in the press is true and I don't know which half.
Another rumor has YouTube's Hurley leaving USF1 and taking his money to Campos. They are in a better financial situation? No
Update:
Their website is down this morning.
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=39961
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They won't make the grid... Typical barking of the US teams... "They are so much better.. and everyone else is a loser"... I find it funny when people here say "Baseball World Series"... when the ONLY teams are US teams...and even "NFL Super Bowl", "the most watched event in the world"... BS!! They forget that the ONLY people that like "Handball" (not football) are americans...the rest of the world that also live in the USA, loves Futbol-Soccer and THAT IS the most watched event in the world!
Sorry for venting... Going back to F1... lol
Carlos