Official 2010 Formula 1 Season Discussion
05-15-2010, 12:22 PM
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You know, it's funny; in evaluating the talent of various drivers vs their cars it can be a bit tough to say who is better than who. As far as Hamilton beating Alonso regularly when they were in the same chassis; was that due to Alonso contributing so much to development and Hamilton being shown favoritism or can Lewis beat Fernando on most days in an equal chassis? If the rules hadn't changed regarding front tire sizes would Lewis and Michael do better due to more aggressive late braking vs tire degradation (I'm not as interested in watching so tactical of a tire maintenance game vs drivers out driving each other). Kubica is proven talent and Vettel has shown over and over again that he can get the job done and makes a few mistakes like everyone else. Massa is obviously above average. Rosberg is showing his talent as is Webber. Michael has lost a step but I will not count him out as he learns the modern cars. Kovaleinen is obviously not as good as Hamilton. Rubens still has it and can win in a competitive chassis but he's not THE best driver in the bunch. Petrov and Kobayahi are diamonds in the rough with Petrov really needing to keep it together, relax and concentrate (Hard to do). I think Button is quite good to excellent but can be beaten by quite a few drivers depending on circumstance. BTW, the Red Bull chassis is amazing although a little fragile perhaps.
My 2 cents.
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My 2 cents.
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05-16-2010, 09:09 AM
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That was a very unorthodox move at the end from Schumacher. Really cool if it was legal. I think it was legal but the race stewards are going to look at the replays.
05-16-2010, 11:53 AM
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05-16-2010, 12:12 PM
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Apparently the pass was not legal. It was fully legal according to last year regulations. However, a new rule has been added and it has now been clarified.
More here: http://en.espnf1.com/monaco/motorsport/story/17477.html
The new rule - 40.13 - states: "If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pitlane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking."
More here: http://en.espnf1.com/monaco/motorsport/story/17477.html
The new rule - 40.13 - states: "If the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pitlane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking."
05-16-2010, 12:37 PM
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Alonso and Ferrari had it together for this race. Everything was done to get their best possible finish.
This one wasn't. The things that made this race interesting was a great driver starting last (hence overtaking even at Monaco), blown engines, crashes & pretty good camera work.
This one wasn't. The things that made this race interesting was a great driver starting last (hence overtaking even at Monaco), blown engines, crashes & pretty good camera work.
05-16-2010, 04:26 PM
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how did barrichello not get a penalty for throwing out the steering wheel like that???
and wtf? how did schumacher get penalized for passing alonso?? he passed him after the first safety car line after alonso was having a little wheelspin passing the line. i don't get it
and wtf? how did schumacher get penalized for passing alonso?? he passed him after the first safety car line after alonso was having a little wheelspin passing the line. i don't get it
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05-16-2010, 06:36 PM
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I just saw a news report, Schumacher got a 20 second penalty for the Alonso pass. This moves him from 6th to 12th place.
Under rule 40.13, which states that "if the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pitlane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking,"
Normally this would be a stop & go type of penalty. However, since it was at the end of the race, a time penalty was accessed.
There is no word about penalties for Barrichello.
Under rule 40.13, which states that "if the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pitlane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking,"
Normally this would be a stop & go type of penalty. However, since it was at the end of the race, a time penalty was accessed.
There is no word about penalties for Barrichello.
05-16-2010, 09:05 PM
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05-17-2010, 01:22 AM
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I just saw a news report, Schumacher got a 20 second penalty for the Alonso pass. This moves him from 6th to 12th place.
Under rule 40.13, which states that "if the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pitlane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking,"
Normally this would be a stop & go type of penalty. However, since it was at the end of the race, a time penalty was accessed.
Under rule 40.13, which states that "if the race ends whilst the safety car is deployed it will enter the pitlane at the end of the last lap and the cars will take the chequered flag as normal without overtaking,"
Normally this would be a stop & go type of penalty. However, since it was at the end of the race, a time penalty was accessed.
Besides since this rule only applies when the safety car goes back in on the last lap I have a hard time seeing how this would ever incur a stop & go
And yes I love picking on you, Aln
05-17-2010, 01:27 AM
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Oh and Mercedes obviously appeals.
http://en.espnf1.com/monaco/motorsport/story/17501.html
I can only agree with Mercedes.
http://en.espnf1.com/monaco/motorsport/story/17501.html
I can only agree with Mercedes.
05-17-2010, 02:31 AM
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GO MARK WEBBER...Go you good thing!!!....
AUSSIE< AUSSIE >AUSSIE....Oi Oi Oi...!!!
He deserves ALL the success he can get, Great Driver... Now with Fast and Reliable cars...FINALLY!
AUSSIE< AUSSIE >AUSSIE....Oi Oi Oi...!!!
He deserves ALL the success he can get, Great Driver... Now with Fast and Reliable cars...FINALLY!
05-17-2010, 02:44 AM
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It was a brilliant drive from Mark the last two races. But really I think Vettel will own him again soon enough. We will see how this turns out...
05-17-2010, 07:38 AM
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05-17-2010, 08:12 AM
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