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alfy28 05-20-2010 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by PerSmitt (Post 3567040)
Here is more on FIA admitting that they will rework the rule:
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/17765.html

Lol i was about to post that. That should put the ferrari fans in check. :rock:

alnielsen 05-20-2010 10:55 AM

Hill: I got hate mail

1996 world champion Damon Hill claims to have received hate mail following the decision to hand
Michael Schumacher a 20s penalty at the end of Sunday's Monaco Grand Prix.


more @ http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=40856

alnielsen 05-20-2010 10:57 AM

Ruptured pipes 'could jeopardise' Canadian Grand Prix

The Canadian Grand Prix is believed to be facing a problem in the form of old water pipes, located beneath the partly-street Circuit de Gilles Villeneuve. The Montreal race is set to make a return to the calendar in the middle of next month after a year off in 2009.

more @ http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-...an-grand-prix/

mike1324a 05-20-2010 11:42 AM

I hope at the very least they give Schumacher back 7th place and a jesture of "oops we the FIA are dumb.... as always". I think the pass on Alonso was a fair one and now the FIA admit it is a grey area. I think thats reason enough for atleast a pardon for schumacher if not awarding him back his 6th place.

PerSmitt 05-20-2010 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by mike1324a (Post 3567372)
I hope at the very least they give Schumacher back 7th place and a jesture of "oops we the FIA are dumb.... as always". I think the pass on Alonso was a fair one and now the FIA admit it is a grey area. I think thats reason enough for atleast a pardon for schumacher if not awarding him back his 6th place.

They cannot do that and should not. Once a rule, albeit dumb, has been set up it has to be followed. Schumacher will end up 12th and now everyone knows how it works. It was simply bad luck that Schumacher was the one who got to suffer for it.

Pololo_RX8 05-20-2010 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by PerSmitt (Post 3567506)
They cannot do that and should not. Once a rule, albeit dumb, has been set up it has to be followed. Schumacher will end up 12th and now everyone knows how it works. It was simply bad luck that Schumacher was the one who got to suffer for it.

Well this will be the first ever for him... He has been the luckiest SOB in F1's history.

And I do agree that the rule had a "grey area" and it needs to be clarified, similar to the difussers last year... remember?

Acording to the rules, no racing if the safety car is still in the last lap. Of course, Schumi as we all know still thinks he could get away with it, like he did multiple times in the past and I am glad Hill is the one that made the decision... Mr Hill, you have my admiration :)

Carlos

PerSmitt 05-21-2010 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by Pololo_RX8 (Post 3567556)
Well this will be the first ever for him... He has been the luckiest SOB in F1's history.

And I do agree that the rule had a "grey area" and it needs to be clarified, similar to the difussers last year... remember?

Yes I remember that. And it was appealed to FIA and was legalized. In 2011 it will be forbidden to decrease the wake after a car. Should have been forbidden already 2010 but FIA is not the fastest pony on the race track.


Originally Posted by Pololo_RX8 (Post 3567556)
Acording to the rules, no racing if the safety car is still in the last lap. Of course, Schumi as we all know still thinks he could get away with it, like he did multiple times in the past

That is the weird part about you Polo, you take truth and twist it. Schumi was ordered to race. Obviously you want to go to the limit of regulations to get an upper hand and I am well aware of some of Schumachers ugly things in the past, but seriously those things are irrelevant here. This was clear as crystal, almost all the teams ordered their drivers to race to the finish line. I am quite certain that Ferrari told Alonso to defend like hell, considering the sliding he did out of the two last turns, otherwise why did he not drive calmly? That Ferrari afterwards said "they knew it was forbidden" well thats just an after construction and the obvious outwards stance they had to take since Alonso was indeed passed.


Originally Posted by Pololo_RX8 (Post 3567556)
and I am glad Hill is the one that made the decision... Mr Hill, you have my admiration :)

As for Hill having a say in this. Hill is helping the stewards to reach a conclusion. He is not some form of final arbiter to say whether or not the stewards are correct. And he will also have to follow the rules. He did not decide to penalize Schumi, he together with the stewards interpreted the rules, thats all. Don't make more out of it that it is.

And the same goes for all idiots who sent hate mail to Hill. They are thinking the same way that it is his fault that Schumacher got demoted to 12th. It is the fault of unclear rules and nothing else...

PerSmitt 05-21-2010 04:36 AM

Ah Ferrari being full of themselves as always:

Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo has again spoken of his unease over the quality of some of the team competing in this season's Formula One Championship.

Earlier this year he remarked that some of the teams would be better off in a "Formula Three competition" and now he had said "this year there are many teams that should be racing in GP2."

Montezemolo added: "In the 60th year of formula one, Ferrari is celebrating its 800th grand prix. Let me say with pride that no one will be able to match this record.

"For us it is a source of great satisfaction and pride because it represents Ferrari has been here even in difficult times, while other teams have come and have gone. I repeat that formula one without Ferrari is not Formula One."


Well he is entitled to his opinion, however as long as it is the most technological cars in the world driven by the best drivers in the world I am happy to call it F1. With or without Ferrari. With or without McLaren.

But noooo, of course it cannot be as good without Ferrari. That kind of attitude disgusts me really. But of course, being humble isn't a part of Ferrari, in any way.

http://en.espnf1.com/ferrari/motorsp...ory/17826.html

alnielsen 05-21-2010 07:41 AM

There was, at one time at least, a rule that you had to be within a certain percentage of the fastest cars time to qualify for the race. There was one team (Minardi ?) that used to have at least one car that couldn't go fast enough to make the grid. Is this rule still in force? If so, then these new teams aren't that slow.

PerSmitt 05-21-2010 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 3568404)
There was, at one time at least, a rule that you had to be within a certain percentage of the fastest cars time to qualify for the race. There was one team (Minardi ?) that used to have at least one car that couldn't go fast enough to make the grid. Is this rule still in force? If so, then these new teams aren't that slow.

The 107% rule is not in effect anymore. I don't know when it was removed but it is removed. However, all the new teams have managed to pass this limit on several (if not all) races so far. So no they are not that slow.

However, GP2 is very competetive nowdays. The GP2 cars are only a few (7-9) seconds slower than F1 cars per lap. The technology is vastly inferior but the regulations permit more allowing the GP2 cars to go fast with inferior technology.

The HRT car is pretty much on par pace-wise with a GP2 car (slightly faster perhaps). But it does conform to F1 spec though obviously :). It would have been hilarious if Dallara would have given HRT a GP2 car saying: here race with this ;)

But what I am trying to say is that the new teams are doing good and all would make it to the grid with the 107% rule intact. It is just that F1 has been so close for years that the drivers have grown unused to (or never experienced) slower cars, and thus there is so much barking about the new teams.

alfy28 05-21-2010 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by PerSmitt (Post 3568315)
Ah Ferrari being full of themselves as always:


"For us it is a source of great satisfaction and pride because it represents Ferrari has been here even in difficult times, while other teams have come and have gone. I repeat that formula one without Ferrari is not Formula One."





http://en.espnf1.com/ferrari/motorsp...ory/17826.html

Well i disagree with you Persmit. I believe ferrari is right,
F1 wouldn’t be F1 if they didn’t have a team (Ferrari) who has engine failures and also supply engines to another team that is having engine failures. So I give him props for stating that. Because I wouldn’t be here making fun of them. So keep doing your thing Ferrari, which is being a asshole.

alfy28 05-22-2010 10:17 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XETRrZHvL4k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DSS2gs3ohY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5xYxO9QiPo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x49FUmMZTO4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CJLm_RXg5k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw7IcNcdIOc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTQBVDV1E7s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la0vQlYOKbs

alnielsen 05-22-2010 08:27 PM

Jersey City's rejection of U.S. Grand Prix may benefit the Catskills
By The Jersey Journal

Jersey City said it did not want the United States Grand Prix and its Formula 1 race cars on a proposed race track at Liberty State Park. So, the Montiecello Motor Club in Upstate New York is jumping at the chance to host the grand prix at the foot of the Catskill Mountains, according to Auto Week.

more @ http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2...on_of_the.html
also @ http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns22280.html
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-...to-welcome-f1/
http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/61...-venue-emerges
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/moto...ne/8697770.stm

This isn't Watkins Glen. This would be a new track for New York state. It seems Bernie is itching to get a GP in the NYC area. Some of the replies in the comments sections are not very hopeful.

http://images.gpupdate.net/newsnew/153997.jpg

alnielsen 05-22-2010 08:35 PM

Pirelli in pole for 2011 F1 tyre supply - report (and more)

A meeting of the Technical Working Group did not result in a decision about F1's tyre supplier for 2011.

Germany's Auto Motor und Sport, however, reports that Pirelli has moved into pole position for the contract, even though recent rumours suggested both the Italian marque and Michelin were offering to supply tyres for 1.5m euros per team.

Earlier this week, representatives of Pirelli met with F1 chief executive Bernie Ecclestone.

Meanwhile, in the wake of the technical directors' meeting, it emerges that the new tyre supplier and the ban on double diffusers will not be the only technical changes for 2011.

The magazine said the main area of attention, apart from the return of KERS, is aerodynamics. Pending the approval of the FIA, the bodywork ahead of the sidepods, and the flow aids under the chassis, are to disappear.

It is also expected that the front wings will be smaller, while the front wing adjustors could be replaced by adjustable rear wings.


http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=369205:F1

Movable rear wings like a Chaparral 2G?
Pirelli is more likely to get the contract over Michelin. Michelin wants to move F1 to use 18" wheels. Pirelli would continue to use the current 13". (How are wheels measured in Europe, english or metric?)

alnielsen 05-23-2010 12:14 AM


Originally Posted by Mazmart (Post 3564746)
What happened to his dad? Is he no longer Lewis' manager? Maybe he needs to be under his guidance a little longer. I don't know; he's 180 deg different from what I saw in the past.

Paul.

I found the answer and your gonna love this site, alfy :rollingla.
http://www.lewishamiltonsucks.com/20...r-anthony.html


Lewis Hamilton: Why I had to sack my father, Anthony

MAILONLINE - Lewis Hamilton admitted on the eve of the Bahrain Grand Prix that he had effectively 'sacked' his father.
After 12 days of pretence that Anthony Hamilton had mutually agreed with his son to cease managing his career, the truth that surfaced on Saturday illustrates the ruthless streak at the heart of the 2008 world champion's character.
'Dad will miss being here,' said Hamilton, 'but it was me who initiated the break. 'He's got other things to focus on, but I don't want my dad to be my manager any more. I will at some stage have a new manager, but I am in no rush.
He's still taking care of a lot of stuff, but he's slowly backing out.'
L3wi5 Hamiltoff's NOTE> WE SURE GONNA MISS HIM... YEAH, RIGHT!:

alfy28 05-23-2010 01:47 AM


Originally Posted by alnielsen (Post 3570438)
I found the answer and your gonna love this site, alfy :rollingla.
http://www.lewishamiltonsucks.com/20...r-anthony.html

LMao that pic of him and Ron Dennis had me rolling.

But Aln you bastard :Peace:

bse50 05-23-2010 10:46 AM

That cracked me up! :)

Pololo_RX8 05-24-2010 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 3570683)
That cracked me up! :)

This is EPIC !!! :) :yelrotflm:yelrotflm I always knew there was something "funky" there... :) lol

Carlos

bse50 05-24-2010 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by Pololo_RX8 (Post 3571623)
This is EPIC !!! :) :yelrotflm:yelrotflm I always knew there was something "funky" there... :) lol

Carlos

:anger:
Lol!

alnielsen 05-25-2010 12:21 AM

Massa's manager in talks with other teams - report

Serious talks about the extension of Felipe Massa's Ferrari contract have begun, according to Finland's Turun Sanomat.

But the newspaper also reports that Brazilian Massa's manager Nicolas Todt has held exploratory talks with other Formula One teams -- perhaps Renault.

more@ http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=369629:F1


'Political' Rome GP saga rolls on

The prospects for a Grand Prix in Rome in the near future looked clouded on Monday.

Bernie Ecclestone said ten days ago that plans for a race in the Italian capital are "moving forward".

more@ http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=369650:F1

bse50 05-25-2010 02:54 AM

There are a lot of reasons that are pushing rome gp back... all of them are stupid :(

PerSmitt 05-25-2010 04:42 AM

I am actually against more city races. The overtaking possibilities are always more limited there than on a regular circuit. Lets be honest, Monaco is boring as hell to watch. The excitement is based in the pit stops and strategies.

It is probably fun like crazy to drive down those streets that fast.

PerSmitt 05-25-2010 06:19 AM

Jackie Stewart is speculating about Mark Webbers chances this year and is positive:

http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsp...ory/18106.html

If Webber dominates over Vettel one more time, then I think that Webber will be very hard to stop this year. I expect Vettel to fight back this weekend and try to retake the crown of red bull.

It certainly will be interesting to watch!

Pololo_RX8 05-25-2010 04:44 PM

Formula ONE returns to USA to a new track in ...
 
AUSTIN!!!! :) :)

Damn, I am stoked!!! F1 returns to the USA to AUSTIN !!:ylsuper::ylsuper:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/moto...ne/8704931.stm

I am taking reservations at home,... :) :)


Awesome NEWS!! I hope it is for real!

Carlos

alnielsen 05-25-2010 05:20 PM

I hope they schedule the race for the spring or fall. Otherwise it will be too hot & humid for drivers and spectators. It's 90F/32C in Chicago now.


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