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Oh and I will really get to eat those words if Alonso does win tomorrow ;)
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rofl!
Vettel won't have to pass Hamilton since he is still prone to making mistakes while under close pressure imho. Interesting race tomorrow, that's for sure! |
The start of the race will be very exciting. I know that Lewis will want to take the lead into the first corner. I also know that Mark doesn't like to give up real estate either. Great action and I'm looking forward to it. I hope they don't take each other out, leaving Jenson and Seb to rule in Istanbul.
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Originally Posted by Mazmart
(Post 3578914)
The start of the race will be very exciting. I know that Lewis will want to take the lead into the first corner. I also know that Mark doesn't like to give up real estate either. Great action and I'm looking forward to it. I hope they don't take each other out, leaving Jenson and Seb to rule in Istanbul.
Although Webber will most likely outpace Hamilton like hell in sector 2. We will see, the first few laps should get hot. |
Anthony Hamilton
Here's the lucrative business Lewis' dad has undertaken; sanctioned by Bernie and the FIA as well:
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/10/a...ep-drivers-ac/ Paul. |
oh my... where is alonso?
there you are! P12! lol |
THAT MUST NOT HAPPEN!
Technically the collision was Vettel's fault, but still Webber could have avoided it too. |
An excellent pass from Alonso when passing Petrov. It was harsh and unfortunately Petrov got a flat tire, but still inspired driving.
But the most inspired driving was from the McLaren cars. Hamilton's hunt through the race and Hamilton vs Button in the end of the race. THAT is racing! |
Who is your daddy ferrari fans?
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Originally Posted by alfy28
(Post 3579575)
Who is your daddy ferrari fans?
I am extatic after such an exciting race. Quite the opposite to boring Monaco. |
wow Webber was so mad in the interview
...and I saw that little smile from Lewis after Webber stopped talking lol |
Great race and great driving from button and hamilton!
Vettel has gott balls bust still need to learn how to be cold, pretty much like hamilton was in his first years. McLaren didn't deserve a 1-2 finish but this is racing and i'm glad to see so many competitors for this year's title! |
Originally Posted by bse50
(Post 3579705)
Great race and great driving from button and hamilton!
Vettel has gott balls bust still need to learn how to be cold, pretty much like hamilton was in his first years. McLaren didn't deserve a 1-2 finish but this is racing and i'm glad to see so many competitors for this year's title! |
one? I need a warehouse of tissues!
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Originally Posted by bse50
(Post 3579798)
one? I need a warehouse of tissues!
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Originally Posted by bse50
(Post 3579705)
Great race and great driving from button and hamilton!
Vettel has gott balls bust still need to learn how to be cold, pretty much like hamilton was in his first years. McLaren didn't deserve a 1-2 finish but this is racing and i'm glad to see so many competitors for this year's title! The 'pass' from Vettel on Webber was both malicious, dangerous, intentional and outrageous, you just can't do that..and they are Team mates! Incredible driving by Webber to get back to finish 3rd, I bet you know there will never be any future pleasantries between the two Red Bull guys..that has been destroyed. And IMO Vetttel has just lost most/any respect he had with other teams. Would not be surprised to see "official" action over this incident. |
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Originally Posted by alfy28
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lol. but yah i was this way about 2 weeks ago, so I feel your pain brother.
https://www.rx8club.com/attachment.p...6&d=1275257833 Attachment 157016 And I should also resize it.. too lazy to do so though. Sorry readers :D |
Originally Posted by PerSmitt
(Post 3579567)
THAT MUST NOT HAPPEN!
Technically the collision was Vettel's fault, but still Webber could have avoided it too. Not even Aytron Senna was that STUPID, and Pissel will NEVER match Senna's Brilliance. |
Vettel admitted while being interviewed by the italian television that he did a mistake while concentrating on the braking point.
Something that had to do with the steering maneuvre that lead to him jamming the aussie :) He's still a young guy and is trying hard to stay on top. I do agree that an experienced driver should not risk this much (safety wise) but in the end it's racing! |
Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 3579816)
Have seen the incident between Webber and Vettel a few times, but not the Webber Interview.
The 'pass' from Vettel on Webber was both malicious, dangerous, intentional and outrageous, you just can't do that..and they are Team mates!
Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 3579816)
Incredible driving by Webber to get back to finish 3rd, I bet you know there will never be any future pleasantries between the two Red Bull guys..that has been destroyed.
Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 3579816)
And IMO Vetttel has just lost most/any respect he had with other teams.
Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 3579816)
Would not be surprised to see "official" action over this incident.
Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 3579820)
WHAT!!!..are you Blind....Webber was minding his own Business HAD the RACING LINE and Vettel Sharply Jabbed his steering wheel turning into Webber " in a passing move...but VESSEL was not even close to passing"...OUTRAGEOUS!;)
Oh and it is also possible Vettel thought Webber would take out height for the turn and thought there was enough room to move a bit to the right. What you can ask yourself is: Do you think Vettel crashed on purpose when he had every chance to get passed his team mate? Vettel had the inner line, he was ahead, victory was his and then this accident happened.
Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 3579820)
Not even Aytron Senna was that STUPID, and Pissel will NEVER match Senna's Brilliance.
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Originally Posted by PerSmitt
(Post 3580100)
No you are wrong on all accounts there. It was a bold move that went awry. It happens, get over it.
What was so incredible about the drive? Are you referring to before or after the crash. Before the crash, yes to get such a lead on Schumacher. After the crash he just drove into the pits, got a new nose cone and new tires (i think) and was never threatened. There was nothing spectacular about his drive after the crash. Good thing the other teams and drivers are a bit more sensible than you. It was a race incident. Uhm, no. Seriously you should learn to calm down... It is quite possible Vettel did not even notice he turned the steering wheel. He was past Webber and focused on the breaking point. You know it would never have happened if Webber hadn't been driving like a slow sauce up ahead like he did at that time. Vettel had been outclassing Webber the last 5 minutes on the track up to the passing point. Oh and it is also possible Vettel thought Webber would take out height for the turn and thought there was enough room to move a bit to the right. What you can ask yourself is: Do you think Vettel crashed on purpose when he had every chance to get passed his team mate? Vettel had the inner line, he was ahead, victory was his and then this accident happened. Once again, race incident... get over yourself... you are almost as bad a fanboi as Polo.... or me ;) Umm.. Anway..First Vettel Was NOT past Webber as HIS rear Tyre Ran into the Side (Approx Webber back rest location). Vettel actually Turned Into (right) of Webber to Crash into him when a Left hand Sweep was immediately ahead?? why..He was NOT even past Webber. He obviously thought he was... Webber was leading after 30 odd laps, with 17 to go Webber kept his racing line..why should he yield, as I said Vettel was not clear of him.? Yes, Vettel had a try for the lead, it did not work, it shows his INEXPERIENCE as a Racing Driver....simple. IMO he was reckless, and most motoring experts and commentators believe he should apologise to his team mate. |
Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 3580144)
You don't know me at all do you..you turnip puller..;)
Umm.. Anway..First Vettel Was NOT past Webber as HIS rear Tyre Ran into the Side (Approx Webber back rest location).
Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 3580144)
Vettel actually Turned Into (right) of Webber to Crash into him when a Left hand Sweep was immediately ahead?? why..He was NOT even past Webber.
He obviously thought he was... Webber was leading after 30 odd laps, with 17 to go Webber kept his racing line..why should he yield, as I said Vettel was not clear of him.? Vettel had to drive that fast and try to pass otherwise he would be passed by Hamilton. This is verified by Red Bull: http://www.formula1.com/news/intervi...0/5/10855.html
Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 3580144)
Yes, Vettel had a try for the lead, it did not work, it shows his INEXPERIENCE as a Racing Driver....simple.
Originally Posted by ASH8
(Post 3580144)
IMO he was reckless, and most motoring experts and commentators believe he should apologise to his team mate.
Red Bull will be very firm with its two drivers now and tell them in no uncertain terms that it was both their faults and that it SHALL NOT happen again in the future. I wouldn't want to be either Vettel or Webber in that debriefing. |
Sporting rivalries often cause unnecessary discord amongst good mates (Friends). It was a decent race with a fair amount of action. Vettel deserves the criticism due to a decision that showed poor judgement on more than one level including not thinking about his team. This may be remembered as the critical point in why neither of them becomes world champion this year.
Here's a perspective you won't hear elswhere: Are the McLarens in fact not as close to the Red Bulls in performance? With the British boys having to conserve fuel at the end of the race, it makes you wonder; if the Red Bull incident hadn't taken place, would they have finished with a decent lead due to McLaren backing off? In other words, did the McLarens gamble with a slightly reduced fuel load in order to equal the speed? Paul. |
LOL wonder if Ferrari is eating ther own words now
:smoker: At first I didnt like Ferrari bad mouthing the new teams, but now i am very happy that they did. Because looks Ferrari should learn to keep their mouth such and worry about their own team car. :cwm27:
On the occasion of Ferrari's 800th grand prix, Tony Fernandes made sure the Italian team's celebratory champagne tasted sour. After proving the strongest of the three new teams in 2010, the Lotus team boss stared mockingly at the qualifying timesheets in Turkey and recalled the pre-season words of Luca di Montezemolo. The Ferrari president had derided the new teams, accusing them of reducing F1 to little more than a glorified junior series. But Lotus is now closing on the tail of the established teams, including Force India whose Tonio Liuzzi was just 1.2 seconds clear of Jarno Trulli at Istanbul Park. And "The team who has done 7 races (is) 2.4 seconds slower than the team who has done 800 races. Wonder if Luca still thinks we are rubbish," Fernandes wrote on his Twitter. Ferrari began the season with one of the favoured cars, but a worried Fernando Alonso said in Turkey that the F10 is now "far behind" Red Bull and McLaren, outpaced by Mercedes and at risk of falling away from his old team Renault. "We need to roll our sleeves up even higher," team boss Stefano Domenicali told Finland's Turun Sanomat after Alonso suggested the car has not been developed quickly enough. "In Valencia we will have a strongly updated package," he promised. http://www.worldcarfans.com/11005312...sh---fernandes |
Originally Posted by Mazmart
(Post 3580209)
Sporting rivalries often cause unnecessary discord amongst good mates (Friends). It was a decent race with a fair amount of action. Vettel deserves the criticism due to a decision that showed poor judgement on more than one level including not thinking about his team. This may be remembered as the critical point in why neither of them becomes world champion this year.
Here's a perspective you won't hear elswhere: Are the McLarens in fact not as close to the Red Bulls in performance? With the British boys having to conserve fuel at the end of the race, it makes you wonder; if the Red Bull incident hadn't taken place, would they have finished with a decent lead due to McLaren backing off? In other words, did the McLarens gamble with a slightly reduced fuel load in order to equal the speed? Paul. After all the McLaren pace was not slower than Webber after the accident. But I am afraid we will never know just how bad it was with fuel. Red Bull is working to resolve their internal conflict: http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsp...ory/19097.html McLaren are also trying mental games to get the upper hand on Red Bull. And Lewis Hamilton took a dig at Webber and Vettel by pointing out that he and Button did not collide when they similarly diced for position in Turkey. "That's why we are world champions. I am proud to have him [Button] as my teammate." http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsp...ory/19056.html This season is just getting better and better! |
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