Official 2010 Formula 1 Season Discussion
10-07-2010, 01:09 PM
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Team that has pumping out new packages almost every week- Red Bull
Team that that pulled its self back up - Ferrari
Team with less engine fails- Mclaren
Driver who is the fastest during qualify- Vettel
Driver who kept his cool most of the time - Hamilton
Driver who is consistant- Webber/Jenson
Driver who cries the most on the track - Alonso
Driver who drives awesome, but needed to wee weee on his team mate - Alonso
Driver who has the most delusional fan base - Alonso
Driver with the most controversy due to GATES (spygate, crashgate, Team order Gate, dancing in a dressgate)- Alonso.
Team that that pulled its self back up - Ferrari
Team with less engine fails- Mclaren
Driver who is the fastest during qualify- Vettel
Driver who kept his cool most of the time - Hamilton
Driver who is consistant- Webber/Jenson
Driver who cries the most on the track - Alonso
Driver who drives awesome, but needed to wee weee on his team mate - Alonso
Driver who has the most delusional fan base - Alonso
Driver with the most controversy due to GATES (spygate, crashgate, Team order Gate, dancing in a dressgate)- Alonso.
I'd say Schumacher has kept his cool better than anyone else. He takes everyone out, gets blasted for sucking every weekend, yet still is as calm and collected as it gets every time he's interviewed. I ******* hate Schumacher so it pains me to give him credit.
I'd tend to argue Hamiltons fan base being as delusional as Alonsos though. Just read PlanetF1 if you need an example. Hamilton can do absolutely no wrong on that site and his fans agree with that (they're still saying it's Webber's fault at Singapore). Not saying you are that way (and I'm definitely a realist when it comes to Alonso as well), just saying I'm not so sure Alonso wins in that category anymore.
As far as Ferraris media release goes, I think they're just being wise about what words they use. Massa was definitely a co #1 at the beginning of the season, and even now he's still a #1 - The #1 support guy for Alonso.
10-07-2010, 01:16 PM
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As far as Ferraris media release goes, I think they're just being wise about what words they use. Massa was definitely a co #1 at the beginning of the season, and even now he's still a #1 - The #1 support guy for Alonso. ...ewwwwwww, LOL
10-07-2010, 01:34 PM
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He's totally keeping his cool as he crashes into the side of Massa or comes over on Webber. I agree.
I'd say Schumacher has kept his cool better than anyone else. He takes everyone out, gets blasted for sucking every weekend, yet still is as calm and collected as it gets every time he's interviewed. I ******* hate Schumacher so it pains me to give him credit.
I'd tend to argue Hamiltons fan base being as delusional as Alonsos though. Just read PlanetF1 if you need an example. Hamilton can do absolutely no wrong on that site and his fans agree with that (they're still saying it's Webber's fault at Singapore). Not saying you are that way (and I'm definitely a realist when it comes to Alonso as well), just saying I'm not so sure Alonso wins in that category anymore.
As far as Ferraris media release goes, I think they're just being wise about what words they use. Massa was definitely a co #1 at the beginning of the season, and even now he's still a #1 - The #1 support guy for Alonso.
I'd say Schumacher has kept his cool better than anyone else. He takes everyone out, gets blasted for sucking every weekend, yet still is as calm and collected as it gets every time he's interviewed. I ******* hate Schumacher so it pains me to give him credit.
I'd tend to argue Hamiltons fan base being as delusional as Alonsos though. Just read PlanetF1 if you need an example. Hamilton can do absolutely no wrong on that site and his fans agree with that (they're still saying it's Webber's fault at Singapore). Not saying you are that way (and I'm definitely a realist when it comes to Alonso as well), just saying I'm not so sure Alonso wins in that category anymore.
As far as Ferraris media release goes, I think they're just being wise about what words they use. Massa was definitely a co #1 at the beginning of the season, and even now he's still a #1 - The #1 support guy for Alonso.
As for the crash, I think its just part of racing, i didnt blame webber or Hamilton. I just seen it as them dueling it out , and one driver left unscathed.
Its not like when a driver (vet) just crashes into a driver before the turn.
Ferrari must look at Brazilian drivers as second class. First Ruben now Massa , that is so sad so sad indeed.
10-07-2010, 01:45 PM
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No idea of Polo, but I have no problem admitting when Alonso fucked up. He did it at Spa, and he sounded like a complete jackass when he was whining on the radio as well.
That said I agree with Ferrari ordering Massa to let him pass in Germany. Does it suck for the fans? Absolutely. Does it prevent another Webber/Vettel fiasco? You're god damn right it did. I think Massa has been more aggressive at preventing Alonso from getting around him all season than he has with anyone else after all.
That said I agree with Ferrari ordering Massa to let him pass in Germany. Does it suck for the fans? Absolutely. Does it prevent another Webber/Vettel fiasco? You're god damn right it did. I think Massa has been more aggressive at preventing Alonso from getting around him all season than he has with anyone else after all.
10-07-2010, 04:24 PM
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Does is suck for the fans? I say no. If you have a car/driver that are unable to unleash their full potential, that is what sucks. I am for team orders in that case. If it was simply Alonso being favored over Massa, then that would be wrong. Also, telling the #2 driver to holdup the other competitors is wrong too.
10-07-2010, 06:00 PM
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Does is suck for the fans? I say no. If you have a car/driver that are unable to unleash their full potential, that is what sucks. I am for team orders in that case. If it was simply Alonso being favored over Massa, then that would be wrong. Also, telling the #2 driver to holdup the other competitors is wrong too.
While we're talking about team orders:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7IiR6Mgwyk
Ferrari could learn a lesson or two from these guys. lol
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10-07-2010, 08:30 PM
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Does is suck for the fans? I say no. If you have a car/driver that are unable to unleash their full potential, that is what sucks. I am for team orders in that case. If it was simply Alonso being favored over Massa, then that would be wrong. Also, telling the #2 driver to holdup the other competitors is wrong too.
It artificially creates champions (we'll see if Alonso's pass on Massa makes the difference on him becoming champion or not)
And it also artificially deflates a drivers resume. A driver isn't going to be able to explain "yeah I know I only scored 10 points last year but I would have scored 25 except for team orders." To a perspective new team. It ultimately affects their perceived worth, salary, and their career standings. I don't think you get paid top dollar and are picked to drive a Ferrari based on whether or not you'll be a good #2 or team orders man. That's not why they picked Alonso.
10-07-2010, 11:01 PM
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Ultimately I think team orders suck for the drivers.
It artificially creates champions (we'll see if Alonso's pass on Massa makes the difference on him becoming champion or not)
And it also artificially deflates a drivers resume. A driver isn't going to be able to explain "yeah I know I only scored 10 points last year but I would have scored 25 except for team orders." To a perspective new team. It ultimately affects their perceived worth, salary, and their career standings. I don't think you get paid top dollar and are picked to drive a Ferrari based on whether or not you'll be a good #2 or team orders man. That's not why they picked Alonso.
It artificially creates champions (we'll see if Alonso's pass on Massa makes the difference on him becoming champion or not)
And it also artificially deflates a drivers resume. A driver isn't going to be able to explain "yeah I know I only scored 10 points last year but I would have scored 25 except for team orders." To a perspective new team. It ultimately affects their perceived worth, salary, and their career standings. I don't think you get paid top dollar and are picked to drive a Ferrari based on whether or not you'll be a good #2 or team orders man. That's not why they picked Alonso.
10-07-2010, 11:24 PM
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Prac One: Another crash for Hamilton
more @ http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/64...h-for-Hamilton
Just before the halfway point of the session, and with only nine laps to his name, Hamilton crashed his MP4-25 at the second Degner, having bottomed out at the first. The impact caused heavy damage to his car and to McLaren's testing duties for the morning.
With the Brit, who was second quickest at the time of his accident, out of the running, it was left to his title rivals to contest the P1 slot.
With the Brit, who was second quickest at the time of his accident, out of the running, it was left to his title rivals to contest the P1 slot.
10-08-2010, 02:40 AM
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10-08-2010, 11:44 AM
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Schumacher told to get up to speed or get out: report
more @ http://www.timeslive.co.za/sport/Mot...et-out--report
The 41-year-old, who won the last of his world titles in 2004, came out of retirement to race for German team Mercedes this season and is currently in 10th place in the World Drivers' Championships (WDC).
Without naming their source, German daily Bild report Schumacher has been given an ultimatum to improve in 2011 or have his three-year contract, reported to be worth 63 million euros, terminated after just two years.
Without naming their source, German daily Bild report Schumacher has been given an ultimatum to improve in 2011 or have his three-year contract, reported to be worth 63 million euros, terminated after just two years.
10-08-2010, 11:57 AM
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HOLY CRAP!!!...you're talking about the old arcade game arn't you....I've heard that sweet voice so many times, hahahahah I spent a small fortune in quarters on that damn thing when I was a kid!!!! Thanks for the trip down memory lane!!!
10-08-2010, 12:03 PM
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10-08-2010, 12:11 PM
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This is a beautiful track.. Damn.. After SPA, Suzuka is my second favorite. For the record, whenever Alonso makes a mistake I'll admit it... and he has made many this season...
However, I hope he keeps his cool composure for the remaining races...Massa will have a KEY role at Ferrari and he knows that very well...
As far as Hamilton. Please sir contine doing what you have been doing lately. You have my 100% support!!!
Now Alfy, next time you have Alonso in your office invite me over... I am sure it's only a 3 hour drive for me...
I hope Vettel and Webber take each other out so we can see a good race between Button and Alonso...
Carlos
However, I hope he keeps his cool composure for the remaining races...Massa will have a KEY role at Ferrari and he knows that very well...
As far as Hamilton. Please sir contine doing what you have been doing lately. You have my 100% support!!!
Now Alfy, next time you have Alonso in your office invite me over... I am sure it's only a 3 hour drive for me...
I hope Vettel and Webber take each other out so we can see a good race between Button and Alonso...
Carlos
10-08-2010, 10:22 PM
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Pos No Driver Team Time/Retired Gap Laps
1 17 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:55.902 9
2 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 2:07.497 11.595 6
3 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth No time 1
4 20 Sakon Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth No time 1
5 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth No time 1
6 16 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari No time 4
7 22 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber-Ferrari No time 1
8 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari No time 1
9 10 Nico Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth No time 2
10 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth
11 23 Kamui Kobayashi BMW Sauber-Ferrari
12 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth
13 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP
14 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes
15 6 Mark Webber RBR-Renault
16 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP
17 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari
18 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault
19 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes
20 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth
21 5 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault
22 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes
23 11 Robert Kubica Renault
24 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
lol wtf?? only 2 drivers were able to put in timeslips
1 17 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:55.902 9
2 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 2:07.497 11.595 6
3 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth No time 1
4 20 Sakon Yamamoto HRT-Cosworth No time 1
5 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth No time 1
6 16 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari No time 4
7 22 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber-Ferrari No time 1
8 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari No time 1
9 10 Nico Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth No time 2
10 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth
11 23 Kamui Kobayashi BMW Sauber-Ferrari
12 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth
13 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes GP
14 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes
15 6 Mark Webber RBR-Renault
16 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes GP
17 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari
18 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault
19 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes
20 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth
21 5 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault
22 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes
23 11 Robert Kubica Renault
24 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
lol wtf?? only 2 drivers were able to put in timeslips