Official 2010 Formula 1 Season Discussion
11-05-2010, 09:12 AM
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11:29 Alonso has stopped on track. He's getting out of the car and that looks like some kind of mechanical failure. There is no smoke from the engine so it probably wasn't due to that.
11:31 Ferrari confirm that Alonso's engine was going to go and that he parked it early to stop it blowing up. They've already said they were going to change the engine between sessions, so they are playing down the problem here.
One more down... I wonder if he will burn another engine in the next practice...
11:31 Ferrari confirm that Alonso's engine was going to go and that he parked it early to stop it blowing up. They've already said they were going to change the engine between sessions, so they are playing down the problem here.
One more down... I wonder if he will burn another engine in the next practice...
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11-05-2010, 09:21 AM
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11-05-2010, 09:28 AM
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Alonso title due to team orders 'a shame' for F1 - Heidfeld
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Nick Heidfeld on Thursday said it would be a shame if the team orders saga is seen to have influenced the outcome of the drivers' world championship.
With two races to go, Ferrari's Fernando Alonso is 11 points ahead of Red Bull's Mark Webber in the points standings.
7 of those points were earned in Hockenheim, where Alonso's teammate Felipe Massa was controversially moved aside despite team orders being banned in F1.
Ferrari was fined $100,000 for the move but Alonso kept his points.
"If Alonso wins the championship with a margin less than the 7 points, it would devalue the championship -- that's a personal view," said former FIA president Max Mosley.
Red Bull's team boss Christian Horner agrees, stating that seeing Alonso win because of the extra points would be "frustrating".
Sauber driver Heidfeld said in Brazil on Thursday: "From a team's perspective, it (team orders) is perhaps understandable.
"But it would be a shame if the championship is decided by the fact that Red Bull has followed the rules while others see it maybe differently.
"If that happens, I would really hope that Red Bull's behaviour is seen in a positive way," the German is quoted by the news agency SID.
Earlier this week, McLaren team boss and FOTA chairman Martin Whitmarsh refused to say a title win for Alonso would reflect badly on the sport.
"I think we've had a very good championship and that's what we should think about, full stop," he said.
Read more: http://www.worldcarfans.com/11011042...#ixzz14PzlBoab
With two races to go, Ferrari's Fernando Alonso is 11 points ahead of Red Bull's Mark Webber in the points standings.
7 of those points were earned in Hockenheim, where Alonso's teammate Felipe Massa was controversially moved aside despite team orders being banned in F1.
Ferrari was fined $100,000 for the move but Alonso kept his points.
"If Alonso wins the championship with a margin less than the 7 points, it would devalue the championship -- that's a personal view," said former FIA president Max Mosley.
Red Bull's team boss Christian Horner agrees, stating that seeing Alonso win because of the extra points would be "frustrating".
Sauber driver Heidfeld said in Brazil on Thursday: "From a team's perspective, it (team orders) is perhaps understandable.
"But it would be a shame if the championship is decided by the fact that Red Bull has followed the rules while others see it maybe differently.
"If that happens, I would really hope that Red Bull's behaviour is seen in a positive way," the German is quoted by the news agency SID.
Earlier this week, McLaren team boss and FOTA chairman Martin Whitmarsh refused to say a title win for Alonso would reflect badly on the sport.
"I think we've had a very good championship and that's what we should think about, full stop," he said.
Read more: http://www.worldcarfans.com/11011042...#ixzz14PzlBoab
11-05-2010, 09:30 AM
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11-05-2010, 09:38 AM
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Heidfeld should shut up.
What if the Webber didn't crash during the last race? What if he didn't take off in valencia?
What if Vettel wasn't a kamikaze? What if Hamilton didn't crash twice in 2 gran prix?
Again, what if Alonso didn't race with a broken gearbox? crashed elsewhere like spa?
He should focus on not being spanked by kamui in the last races as well
What if the Webber didn't crash during the last race? What if he didn't take off in valencia?
What if Vettel wasn't a kamikaze? What if Hamilton didn't crash twice in 2 gran prix?
Again, what if Alonso didn't race with a broken gearbox? crashed elsewhere like spa?
He should focus on not being spanked by kamui in the last races as well
11-05-2010, 09:47 AM
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11-05-2010, 10:23 AM
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Yep but Alfy and I both love each other, even if our religious differences will never make our marriage easy.
He will understand, one day, that his god is the wrong one though.
He will understand, one day, that his god is the wrong one though.
11-05-2010, 10:40 AM
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What???? My name is not Alonso dude lol. Last time I remember (which was like 2 mins ago) I love ladies.
11-05-2010, 12:07 PM
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Look what happens when you stress the Ferrari engine:
14:59 Massa is third fastest with a 1:12.677, still shy of the Red Bulls.
15:01 Massa has coasted to a halt. Another engine problem perhaps? Massa is on his ninth engine.
Granted its not confirmed what the error is since this just happened.
14:59 Massa is third fastest with a 1:12.677, still shy of the Red Bulls.
15:01 Massa has coasted to a halt. Another engine problem perhaps? Massa is on his ninth engine.
Granted its not confirmed what the error is since this just happened.
11-05-2010, 01:35 PM
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11-05-2010, 02:21 PM
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11-05-2010, 03:49 PM
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OMFG LOL
Massa threatened with jail over team orders
Massa threatened with jail over team orders
Massa's superstar status in his native Brazil was tarnished when he acceded to team orders to let Alonso pass during the recent German Grand Prix at Hockenheim, an incident for which Ferrari were fined £65,000 for flagrant contravention of the ban on team orders.
The 29-year-old Massa, who has no chance of winning the title himself, has stated openly that he would help his team-mate to secure the drivers' championship.
But Paulo Castilho, a prosecutor in Brazil's Special Criminal Court, has told newspaper Folha de Sao Paulo that Massa will "leave Interlagos in handcuffs" should he let Alonso through, with the lawyer apparently ready to press charges of defrauding the Brazilian public under laws protecting the rights of fans to witness fair spectacles.
Massa himself remained unapologetic about the prospect of having to give up a victory to help his team mate, even if he acknowledged how much it upsets fans.
"For sure there are some people who understand it," he said. "They have the knowledge about this complicated sport when the team is in first position.
"But there are some people who will never understand. The crowd have opposing views but I insist our work is not to understand the opinion of the crowd but to do the best on the track."
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The 29-year-old Massa, who has no chance of winning the title himself, has stated openly that he would help his team-mate to secure the drivers' championship.
But Paulo Castilho, a prosecutor in Brazil's Special Criminal Court, has told newspaper Folha de Sao Paulo that Massa will "leave Interlagos in handcuffs" should he let Alonso through, with the lawyer apparently ready to press charges of defrauding the Brazilian public under laws protecting the rights of fans to witness fair spectacles.
Massa himself remained unapologetic about the prospect of having to give up a victory to help his team mate, even if he acknowledged how much it upsets fans.
"For sure there are some people who understand it," he said. "They have the knowledge about this complicated sport when the team is in first position.
"But there are some people who will never understand. The crowd have opposing views but I insist our work is not to understand the opinion of the crowd but to do the best on the track."
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11-06-2010, 05:24 AM
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Thank you 
Anyway all Massa should do to avoid any fines is let alonso pass on his own, without team orders. At that point it wouldn't be a matter of unfair conduct\show\whatever from ANY point of view.
If I were him i'd just run straight to the chequered flag though, my fair sportsmanship conduct went down the drain approx. 4 years ago =)
Anyway all Massa should do to avoid any fines is let alonso pass on his own, without team orders. At that point it wouldn't be a matter of unfair conduct\show\whatever from ANY point of view.
If I were him i'd just run straight to the chequered flag though, my fair sportsmanship conduct went down the drain approx. 4 years ago =)
11-06-2010, 12:07 PM
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Woah Hulkenberg was a whole second faster than everyone! He had the right settings for the dry track. Hamilton went with the super softs one lap too soon I think.
Very nice to see the top drivers being happy for him.
Very nice to see the top drivers being happy for him.