Official 2011 Formula 1 Season Discussion
07-12-2011, 01:39 AM
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07-12-2011, 01:45 AM
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This is BULLSHIT!!! PLAIN BULLSHIT!!!
I remember last year when Horner and MOST OF THE PEOPLE on this thread were "crying" about the decision of Ferrari... Even Horner himself and the Team owner said... "we let our drivers race. No Team orders"... WHAT BS!!
Bunch of hypocrites! Webber had to really restrained himself from passing Vettel if he was to have any support from the team moving forward. He knows he is #2 and he knows his days at RB are numbered...
With Hamilton moving to RB next year, this will be even more interesting.
They can take each other out any time... especially with "Mr Demolition" aka "Hamilton"
Great race for Ferrari, especially for Alonso... and yes I tend to agree, Hamilton should have been penalized for what he did...
This season is getting worse every weekend...I guess I am canceling Speed in the next couple of weeks... I'll give it a couple more races but I don't think this will get any better...
Carlos
I remember last year when Horner and MOST OF THE PEOPLE on this thread were "crying" about the decision of Ferrari... Even Horner himself and the Team owner said... "we let our drivers race. No Team orders"... WHAT BS!!
Bunch of hypocrites! Webber had to really restrained himself from passing Vettel if he was to have any support from the team moving forward. He knows he is #2 and he knows his days at RB are numbered...
With Hamilton moving to RB next year, this will be even more interesting.
They can take each other out any time... especially with "Mr Demolition" aka "Hamilton"Great race for Ferrari, especially for Alonso... and yes I tend to agree, Hamilton should have been penalized for what he did...
This season is getting worse every weekend...I guess I am canceling Speed in the next couple of weeks... I'll give it a couple more races but I don't think this will get any better...
Carlos
I guess it would have been OK if Webber had returned a "track crashing passing manoeuvre accident" on Vettel...MMmm
07-12-2011, 01:49 AM
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Christian Horner radioed to Webber to "maintain the gap" in order to reduce the risk of any collision. However, when asked if he was fine with the team order, Webber said he ignored the message.
07-12-2011, 09:56 AM
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Exhaust ban was 'unpoliceable' - Lowe
read the full article at http://en.espnf1.com/fia/motorsport/story/54058.html
McLaren technical director Paddy Lowe believes the ban on off-throttle blown diffusers at the British Grand Prix was "unpoliceable", but insists the FIA was not to blame for the confusion and controversy over the weekend .
The FIA went to Silverstone with the intention of banning the systems, which use complex engine maps to boost the performance of the diffuser by continually blowing it with exhaust gas. But because each manufacturer had a different method for exhaust blowing, which in some cases was closely linked to the engine's reliability, it soon became clear that it would be difficult to create a level playing field with one rule.
The FIA went to Silverstone with the intention of banning the systems, which use complex engine maps to boost the performance of the diffuser by continually blowing it with exhaust gas. But because each manufacturer had a different method for exhaust blowing, which in some cases was closely linked to the engine's reliability, it soon became clear that it would be difficult to create a level playing field with one rule.
07-12-2011, 02:17 PM
#782
I heard on the BBC Broadcast that since McLaren never got around to do the full fuel load practice, and their pace was faster than they expected.
More fuel was used at the first half of the race, so Lewis was told to slow down in the last 10 laps.
I mean, that would be the only answer, there's no point slowing down with RBR and Ferrari in front. Poor luck for Paul Di Resta though
P6 was fantastique :D but it just shows that he's still a noob lol...
Lewis though... making too many mistakes... outbraking himself 2-3 times chasing Massa's Ferrari... and Jenson... I don't even konw what to say about that... Just stupid. Plain stupid.
More fuel was used at the first half of the race, so Lewis was told to slow down in the last 10 laps.
I mean, that would be the only answer, there's no point slowing down with RBR and Ferrari in front. Poor luck for Paul Di Resta though
P6 was fantastique :D but it just shows that he's still a noob lol...Lewis though... making too many mistakes... outbraking himself 2-3 times chasing Massa's Ferrari... and Jenson... I don't even konw what to say about that... Just stupid. Plain stupid.
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07-13-2011, 10:04 AM
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Mateschitz: Webber is staying with Red Bull
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...with-red-bull/
Where would he go anyway? That was a rhetorical question and not meant to start a discussion along those lines.
Dietrich Mateschitz, owner of the Red Bull drinks company, has stressed that Mark Webber will be retained by its Formula 1 team next year. After Silverstone, where the Australian was told to hold position behind team-mate Sebastian Vettel, more rumours have begun to circulate that the Queanbeyan man could be departing.
Webber joined Red Bull Racing at the start of 2007 and, now in his fifth campaign with the Milton Keynes-based team, is its longest-serving driver.
“There is no doubt over a contract extension with Mark,” Mateschitz explained to Germany’s Salzburger Nachrichten newspaper. “He feels comfortable with us and he is very popular in the team. He won’t find a better car and we’ll not find a better driver on the market.”
To date, Webber has clinched six race victories with Red Bull, with the first having been two years ago at the Nürburgring in Germany - scene of the next Grand Prix.
Webber joined Red Bull Racing at the start of 2007 and, now in his fifth campaign with the Milton Keynes-based team, is its longest-serving driver.
“There is no doubt over a contract extension with Mark,” Mateschitz explained to Germany’s Salzburger Nachrichten newspaper. “He feels comfortable with us and he is very popular in the team. He won’t find a better car and we’ll not find a better driver on the market.”
To date, Webber has clinched six race victories with Red Bull, with the first having been two years ago at the Nürburgring in Germany - scene of the next Grand Prix.
Where would he go anyway? That was a rhetorical question and not meant to start a discussion along those lines.
07-14-2011, 02:15 AM
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Mateschitz: Webber is staying with Red Bull
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...with-red-bull/
Where would he go anyway? That was a rhetorical question and not meant to start a discussion along those lines.
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...with-red-bull/
Where would he go anyway? That was a rhetorical question and not meant to start a discussion along those lines.
No but seriously, currently any driver should want to drive the Red Bull. If Alonso says he rather drive with Ferrari and Hamilton says he rather drive with McLaren then I would say: Sure you prefer those teams, however you would love it if your car was as good as the Red Bull
07-14-2011, 04:23 AM
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Yep but i believe that their reasons are completely different.
Hamilton has to thank McLaren if he isn't working as a carpenter while racing shopping carts at the mall.
Alonso, as smart as he is, knows that to be truly remembered you have to win and win in a Ferrari. As much as any hater loves to admit Ferrari is motorsport, it's part of it. Alonso is also well aware of his skills and is accepting well driving the second best car for the second year in a row hoping for a new "ferrari era" to come, like what happened with Schumacher.
That's the same reason why Vettel admitted to dream about driving for Ferrari.
Webber would be an excellent second driver for Ferrari.
Btw the italian news reported that Kimi is still thinking about F1 and given that RedBull is one of his sponsors a "comeback" could be expected should Mark be fired
Hamilton has to thank McLaren if he isn't working as a carpenter while racing shopping carts at the mall.
Alonso, as smart as he is, knows that to be truly remembered you have to win and win in a Ferrari. As much as any hater loves to admit Ferrari is motorsport, it's part of it. Alonso is also well aware of his skills and is accepting well driving the second best car for the second year in a row hoping for a new "ferrari era" to come, like what happened with Schumacher.
That's the same reason why Vettel admitted to dream about driving for Ferrari.
Webber would be an excellent second driver for Ferrari.
Btw the italian news reported that Kimi is still thinking about F1 and given that RedBull is one of his sponsors a "comeback" could be expected should Mark be fired
07-14-2011, 08:48 AM
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Yep but i believe that their reasons are completely different.
Hamilton has to thank McLaren if he isn't working as a carpenter while racing shopping carts at the mall.
Alonso, as smart as he is, knows that to be truly remembered you have to win and win in a Ferrari. As much as any hater loves to admit Ferrari is motorsport, it's part of it. Alonso is also well aware of his skills and is accepting well driving the second best car for the second year in a row hoping for a new "ferrari era" to come, like what happened with Schumacher.
That's the same reason why Vettel admitted to dream about driving for Ferrari.
Webber would be an excellent second driver for Ferrari.
Btw the italian news reported that Kimi is still thinking about F1 and given that RedBull is one of his sponsors a "comeback" could be expected should Mark be fired
Hamilton has to thank McLaren if he isn't working as a carpenter while racing shopping carts at the mall.
Alonso, as smart as he is, knows that to be truly remembered you have to win and win in a Ferrari. As much as any hater loves to admit Ferrari is motorsport, it's part of it. Alonso is also well aware of his skills and is accepting well driving the second best car for the second year in a row hoping for a new "ferrari era" to come, like what happened with Schumacher.
That's the same reason why Vettel admitted to dream about driving for Ferrari.
Webber would be an excellent second driver for Ferrari.
Btw the italian news reported that Kimi is still thinking about F1 and given that RedBull is one of his sponsors a "comeback" could be expected should Mark be fired
I agree with your opinion on Alonso, who is great in car development as well. He has landed with a team that can potentially establish his legend.
I think Red Bull have to consider if Vettel went to Ferrari (For some reason) they need Webber around as he is quite effective.
Kimi in the RBR; that would be interesting, if he has not lost his edge like Schumi.
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07-14-2011, 08:52 AM
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I'm not that sure about Hamilton landing in another high-paying field if Mclaren wasn't around.
Professional motorsport is a harsh environment that doesn't let you study or get any degree of sorts when you're involved in top racing serieses. He won his gamble by reaching F1.
Intelligence aside, which i can't judge, he probably wouldn't be successful in many other fields because he has problems staying "focused" and likes the star system too much imho.
As a good rule of thumb you can't spend much time having fun while building your career, right?
Professional motorsport is a harsh environment that doesn't let you study or get any degree of sorts when you're involved in top racing serieses. He won his gamble by reaching F1.
Intelligence aside, which i can't judge, he probably wouldn't be successful in many other fields because he has problems staying "focused" and likes the star system too much imho.
As a good rule of thumb you can't spend much time having fun while building your career, right?
07-14-2011, 09:35 AM
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I'm not that sure about Hamilton landing in another high-paying field if Mclaren wasn't around.
Professional motorsport is a harsh environment that doesn't let you study or get any degree of sorts when you're involved in top racing serieses. He won his gamble by reaching F1.
Intelligence aside, which i can't judge, he probably wouldn't be successful in many other fields because he has problems staying "focused" and likes the star system too much imho.
As a good rule of thumb you can't spend much time having fun while building your career, right?
Professional motorsport is a harsh environment that doesn't let you study or get any degree of sorts when you're involved in top racing serieses. He won his gamble by reaching F1.
Intelligence aside, which i can't judge, he probably wouldn't be successful in many other fields because he has problems staying "focused" and likes the star system too much imho.
As a good rule of thumb you can't spend much time having fun while building your career, right?
The so called lottery could be; being born into money, having insane hand eye coordination, smart parents, good diet. The lottery affects all who are driving in this sport.
Paul.
07-14-2011, 09:54 AM
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Later while I was a corner marshal/corner worker, a Formula SuperVee parked at my corner station with a broken engine. The driver walked off and couldn't be found at the end of the race. I had a racing license, so race control was going to let me drive the car while it was being rope towed back to the pits. I couldn't even slid down into the cockpit. This due to my height. At that time, not due to my width.
Sorry, I got off on a tangent a little.
07-14-2011, 10:33 AM
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Genetics also has a hand in it. I am too tall and my feet are too big to interface with a formula car. Believe me, I tried. I bought shoes two sizes to small and tried to file off the heal and toe to function within the frame of a Formula Ford. I was able to drive it, but working the peddles was hindered.
Later while I was a corner marshal/corner worker, a Formula SuperVee parked at my corner station with a broken engine. The driver walked off and couldn't be found at the end of the race. I had a racing license, so race control was going to let me drive the car while it was being rope towed back to the pits. I couldn't even slid down into the cockpit. This due to my height. At that time, not due to my width.
Sorry, I got off on a tangent a little.
Later while I was a corner marshal/corner worker, a Formula SuperVee parked at my corner station with a broken engine. The driver walked off and couldn't be found at the end of the race. I had a racing license, so race control was going to let me drive the car while it was being rope towed back to the pits. I couldn't even slid down into the cockpit. This due to my height. At that time, not due to my width.
Sorry, I got off on a tangent a little.
All the F1 drivers would have different ways in which they climbed the ladder including someone with a boatload of money but they have to be a rare animal to start as well.
Paul.
07-14-2011, 10:43 AM
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Money will solve lots of problems, as long as your reasonably talented. Didn't one of the members of Abba and Nick Mason of Pink Floyd run in at least one F1 race?
I looked it up. Slim Borgudd was a dummer for ABBA and used his money to race with the Hesketh team in the early 1980's. Mick Mason didn't race F1. He owns a McLaren F1 road car.
I looked it up. Slim Borgudd was a dummer for ABBA and used his money to race with the Hesketh team in the early 1980's. Mick Mason didn't race F1. He owns a McLaren F1 road car.
07-15-2011, 10:10 AM
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'Criticism of Lewis has snowballed'
more at: http://www.planetf1.com/driver/3213/...as-snowballed-
Martin Whitmarsh believes Lewis Hamilton has come in for some unfair criticism with one person slating him and the rest jumping on the bandwagon.
Following his error-strewn Monaco and Canadian GPs, Hamilton copped flak from all quarters.
Felipe Massa, who he hit in Monaco, stated that the FIA "need to think about something for him, or he will not learn" a lesson while triple World Champ Niki Lauda stated that the McLaren driver is "completely mad" and that what he does "goes beyond all boundaries".
And they were not the only F1 personalities to hit out at the 26-year-old as the likes of Emerson Fittipaldi and Sir Stirling Moss also added their two cents on the issue.
Following his error-strewn Monaco and Canadian GPs, Hamilton copped flak from all quarters.
Felipe Massa, who he hit in Monaco, stated that the FIA "need to think about something for him, or he will not learn" a lesson while triple World Champ Niki Lauda stated that the McLaren driver is "completely mad" and that what he does "goes beyond all boundaries".
And they were not the only F1 personalities to hit out at the 26-year-old as the likes of Emerson Fittipaldi and Sir Stirling Moss also added their two cents on the issue.
07-18-2011, 01:05 AM
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Anyone heard the rumour of a new F1 circuit being planned/built in Verona Italy. ? My sister in law is building a house there, and the landowner ,apparently by law, told her of the "rumoured" development.
07-22-2011, 06:50 AM
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Bernie Ecclestone in Formula 1 bribe probe
read more at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14213249
Formula 1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone has been named by prosecutors in Germany as allegedly bribing a former banker during the sale of the sport in 2006.
Gerhard Gribkowsky, in charge of the sale of BayernLB's stake in F1, stands accused of taking a $44m (£27m) bribe.
In return, prosecutors allege, Mr Ecclestone received $41.4m in commissions from the bank, as well as a large payment to a family trust.
Gerhard Gribkowsky, in charge of the sale of BayernLB's stake in F1, stands accused of taking a $44m (£27m) bribe.
In return, prosecutors allege, Mr Ecclestone received $41.4m in commissions from the bank, as well as a large payment to a family trust.
07-22-2011, 07:24 AM
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To all the fellow f1 nostalgics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Hix...feature=fvwrel
It's mad jdm drift y0!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Hix...feature=fvwrel
It's mad jdm drift y0!
Thanks for putting that up!!! That was awsome!!!!
I love watching footage from back then. Speaking of which, anybody know when the Senna movie is supposed to be released in the US??
07-22-2011, 08:28 AM
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The atmosphere was right for watching TV from other near by cities yesterday. I was watching a PBS station that was showing the 1961 GP season. It included some of the sports car races that the drivers also competed in. For the Italian GP at Monsa, they were using the old complete track that included the wall section.