Official 2013 Formula 1 Season Discussion
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...couldn't agree with you more!!! Well, except for Ham and Button..i still want to see those 2 do well..but yeah...Vettle is a little bitch
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#229
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That's a smart move, use the harder tyres with higher fuel loads and enjoy the softs at the end of the race...
If I were a team i'd go out immediately in q3 on softs and then do another lap on the harder compound
If I were a team i'd go out immediately in q3 on softs and then do another lap on the harder compound
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Vettel saves tyres as Webber runs out of fuel - F1technical.net
More on Vettel's tire choice and Webbers running out of fuel and subsequent grid reduction.
More on Vettel's tire choice and Webbers running out of fuel and subsequent grid reduction.
#232
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I think Webber's done the right thing and got rid of the crummy soft tyres early.
However he's just stuffed it into Vergne and Vettel's passed him. I really don't like Vettel at all any more.
However he's just stuffed it into Vergne and Vettel's passed him. I really don't like Vettel at all any more.
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McLaren's Sergio Perez told to 'toughen up' by Martin Whitmarsh | McLaren | Formula 1 news, live F1 | ESPN F1
Tyre issues prevent Massa to do better in China - F1technical.net
Why didn't Alonso have the same issue?
F1 2013 Chinese Grand Prix ? Red Bull Fined for unsafe release
Is that all? I would have thought there would be more of a penalty.
BBC Sport - Sir Stirling Moss says women lack mental aptitude for Formula 1
Not PC at all. It probably has more to do with young girl not aspiring to be race car drivers. The comments below are interesting.
Tyre issues prevent Massa to do better in China - F1technical.net
Why didn't Alonso have the same issue?
F1 2013 Chinese Grand Prix ? Red Bull Fined for unsafe release
Is that all? I would have thought there would be more of a penalty.
BBC Sport - Sir Stirling Moss says women lack mental aptitude for Formula 1
Not PC at all. It probably has more to do with young girl not aspiring to be race car drivers. The comments below are interesting.
#235
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Women lack the fitness level to compete against men more than mental aptitude.
Massa spent more time behind other drivers than Alonso. This probably is what increased his tyre degradation... staying behind another car makes yours understeer....
Massa spent more time behind other drivers than Alonso. This probably is what increased his tyre degradation... staying behind another car makes yours understeer....
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Thanks for that. Wizwig needs a PC and I've, for better or worse, gone fully Apple, the other one I've found completely bewildering but I will keep trying as I'd love to be able to watch again, without putting money in Sky's pocket preferably.
I'm pretty good at getting info on all sorts of sports as I do a Sports Chat on a local radio station twice a week but those sites would make some of it much easier.
I'm a bit gutted about wiziwig as it looked good too. Cheers.![Blue](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/blue.gif)
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I'm pretty good at getting info on all sorts of sports as I do a Sports Chat on a local radio station twice a week but those sites would make some of it much easier.
I'm a bit gutted about wiziwig as it looked good too. Cheers.
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#240
Amazing race. Alonso did some amazing stuff. Perez showed why he has a top seat. Lewis showed he is fighter with knock out punches yet. Grosjean and Di Resta did fantastic as well. Of course, then there's finger boy.
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'Dirty' driver Sergio Perez has to calm down - Jenson Button | Bahrain Grand Prix | Formula 1 news, live F1 | ESPN F1
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McLaren will make Jenson Button and Sergio Perez talk after battle in Bahrain Grand Prix, says Marti | McLaren | Formula 1 news, live F1 | ESPN F1
BBC Sport - McLaren's Sergio Perez drove dangerously says Jenson Button
http://www.motorsport.com/all/news/m...-spark-firing/
Jenson Button says Sergio Perez has to calm down after the McLaren team-mates twice made contact while fighting for position at the Bahrain Grand Prix.
Button and Perez found themselves scrapping for points during the race, with turn four providing drama on two occasions - once when Perez nerfed his team-mate on the exit of the corner and once when they banged wheels ahead of the braking zone. Button said he had never experienced that level of aggression from a team-mate and that most drivers grow out of that kind of behaviour in karting.
Button and Perez found themselves scrapping for points during the race, with turn four providing drama on two occasions - once when Perez nerfed his team-mate on the exit of the corner and once when they banged wheels ahead of the braking zone. Button said he had never experienced that level of aggression from a team-mate and that most drivers grow out of that kind of behaviour in karting.
McLaren will make Jenson Button and Sergio Perez talk after battle in Bahrain Grand Prix, says Marti | McLaren | Formula 1 news, live F1 | ESPN F1
BBC Sport - McLaren's Sergio Perez drove dangerously says Jenson Button
http://www.motorsport.com/all/news/m...-spark-firing/
#246
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It was an ok race I think. I loved watching the various battles but because of those battles coupled with Alonso's bad luck, Vettel was never threatened. He could save his tires while the others couldn't having to either attack or defend. So finger boy had to race for a few laps and then just cruise on home.....
Rosberg needs to calm down a little lol. Same crap he pulled last year. But I love that Hamilton placed better even though he started 8 places back. Won't be long till he grabs a victory I think.
Perez rules and Button is a whiney bitch. And let's not forget that Button pushed him off track first. But Button thinks now that Hamilton is gone that he's nr1 there.... Wrong![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Pirelli need to build better tires. Shame on the FIA to order these junk tires. Vettel was out of reach because nobody could afford to push after their battles.
Rosberg needs to calm down a little lol. Same crap he pulled last year. But I love that Hamilton placed better even though he started 8 places back. Won't be long till he grabs a victory I think.
Perez rules and Button is a whiney bitch. And let's not forget that Button pushed him off track first. But Button thinks now that Hamilton is gone that he's nr1 there.... Wrong
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Pirelli need to build better tires. Shame on the FIA to order these junk tires. Vettel was out of reach because nobody could afford to push after their battles.
#247
It was an ok race I think. I loved watching the various battles but because of those battles coupled with Alonso's bad luck, Vettel was never threatened. He could save his tires while the others couldn't having to either attack or defend. So finger boy had to race for a few laps and then just cruise on home.....
Rosberg needs to calm down a little lol. Same crap he pulled last year. But I love that Hamilton placed better even though he started 8 places back. Won't be long till he grabs a victory I think.
Perez rules and Button is a whiney bitch. And let's not forget that Button pushed him off track first. But Button thinks now that Hamilton is gone that he's nr1 there.... Wrong![Wink](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Pirelli need to build better tires. Shame on the FIA to order these junk tires. Vettel was out of reach because nobody could afford to push after their battles.
Rosberg needs to calm down a little lol. Same crap he pulled last year. But I love that Hamilton placed better even though he started 8 places back. Won't be long till he grabs a victory I think.
Perez rules and Button is a whiney bitch. And let's not forget that Button pushed him off track first. But Button thinks now that Hamilton is gone that he's nr1 there.... Wrong
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Pirelli need to build better tires. Shame on the FIA to order these junk tires. Vettel was out of reach because nobody could afford to push after their battles.
Paul.
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I may be off base, but I think the FIA thinks these shitty tires are an instrument of cost control. No matter how much money a team throws at the car they will never be able to overcome the restrictions placed on them by the tire...and I would "think" tweaking and trying to find gains in the chasis would be cheaper than building the most powerfull engine or trickes electronics or slick aero...just my thoughts....
#249
European livin n ohio
They need to get back to 2 stops a race, 2 compounds to choose from, either hard or soft you race and qualify on. Decided after practice 3. And refueling.
#250
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I may be off base, but I think the FIA thinks these shitty tires are an instrument of cost control. No matter how much money a team throws at the car they will never be able to overcome the restrictions placed on them by the tire...and I would "think" tweaking and trying to find gains in the chasis would be cheaper than building the most powerfull engine or trickes electronics or slick aero...just my thoughts....
On the other side you have the engineers constantly finding loopholes in the rules to speed the cars back up like mercedes's double drs and this years suspension leveling. It's a constant battle. And that's what they're doing now. The engineers are making the aero in such a way that the cars are very "light" on their tires. The tires are the weakest point on the car this year so the engineers are trying desperately to improve how the car rides on them. That's what all the aero and chassis upgrades are for.