Is an RX-7 in the works for 2006?
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Mazda is bringing the next gen Miata for 2006. So they're not gonna release another new sportscar in the same year.
A new RX-7 makes perfect sense -- they get to use mostly parts they already have to make a whole 'nother car.
A new RX-7 makes perfect sense -- they get to use mostly parts they already have to make a whole 'nother car.
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Originally Posted by RX4life
a new RX-7??
it will totally devalue and conflict with the RX-8.. it makes NO SUCH ECONOMICAL SENSE!!!!"
i think there are enough people whinin about gas mileage.. i dont think a turbo rotary is necessary for todays market where gas prices are upward of 90C per litre..
FACT:
the RX-8 is the new RX-7. jsut like the 350 is the 300Z.. the e46 M3 is the new e36.. and the g35 the new skyline.
corporations are out there to make a profit.. and introduce cars in the market that fit in the real world...I think the RX-8 was an excellent way to make a comeback for the rotary.. and we should all anticipate the arrival of the MAZDASPPED.. not an RX-7.. that would be plain stupid!
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P.S. We are talking about FORD here...anything to cut costs!!! unless MAZDA does its homwork... it will cost them a fortune in warranties again i believe... jsut look back 10yrs ago..
it will totally devalue and conflict with the RX-8.. it makes NO SUCH ECONOMICAL SENSE!!!!"
i think there are enough people whinin about gas mileage.. i dont think a turbo rotary is necessary for todays market where gas prices are upward of 90C per litre..
FACT:
the RX-8 is the new RX-7. jsut like the 350 is the 300Z.. the e46 M3 is the new e36.. and the g35 the new skyline.
corporations are out there to make a profit.. and introduce cars in the market that fit in the real world...I think the RX-8 was an excellent way to make a comeback for the rotary.. and we should all anticipate the arrival of the MAZDASPPED.. not an RX-7.. that would be plain stupid!
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P.S. We are talking about FORD here...anything to cut costs!!! unless MAZDA does its homwork... it will cost them a fortune in warranties again i believe... jsut look back 10yrs ago..
A new '7 would complement the RX8, not conflict with it. Yes, a small segment of rotary enthusiasts would choose the RX7 over the RX8, but that is not Mazda's target audience with the 8. And don't be so sure that there's going to be a turbo under the hood if Mazda does (and I believe they will) make a new 7- my bet is they learned their lesson with the FD and will make a beefed up naturally aspirated rotary with higher displacement , and leave the turbos up to the aftermarket and tuners. I'll bet Ford and Mazda are looking very closely at the success of the Renesis in the RX-8 to determine if they should greenlight the next 7... and based on the last 18 months that I've seen, the Renesis has proven itself.
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Originally Posted by mjd
I really hope you're guessing wrong on the price. If you've seen the supercharged version in Speed magazine, it still will only have 275 HP and 200 torque. Even with the body kit, there's no way they can charge over $40k and expect to sell many of them. I'd say $35-36k tops. There would still be several sports cars that are way more powerful for way less money. Otherwise we might be looking at the demise of the RX-7 all over again with the 8.
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thought i would bump an o;der thread instead of anew one
found this pic today and was wondering if anyone knew the mag it came from or had seen it before. as to the post by G8rboy- i think they would price a new 7 starting as cheap as possible. low to mid 20k for a stripped base model like the solstice. but upwards of 35k to 40k for a fully optioned one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...da/2007RX7.jpg
found this pic today and was wondering if anyone knew the mag it came from or had seen it before. as to the post by G8rboy- i think they would price a new 7 starting as cheap as possible. low to mid 20k for a stripped base model like the solstice. but upwards of 35k to 40k for a fully optioned one
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...da/2007RX7.jpg
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Zoom, that's just a chop and it looks to be G35 based. It was posted here a several months ago in a similar thread to this but don't remember what publication. I believe it was a british publication or a web based auto rumor site though.
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Actually on Sunday I was checking out recent JDM new/future car mags. In the "scoop" section in one, they said that they have confirmed with Mazda that developement for the next RX-7 has officially begun. The exact specifications... s/c renesis, t/c renesis, RX-8/Miata based platform, body design, etc. haven't been decided. The production target looks like '07/'08. I'd expect that there would be a good chance for something in motorshows the latter half of next year.
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Actually rendered drawings I've seen look more and more like a beefy RX-8 coupe. The hood/fenders is more masculine and the lines flow back into the doors to the rear of the car... the openings in the front larger (i.e. oil coolers, etc.) and the rear looks like it will be different. But that's just a mag rendered sketch or clean photochop... so who knows what it will really be like.
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I do not understand Mazda! Why produce the RX8 8 years later if it is not a
sports car. Seems the 8 is having fun in racing and winning some events!
Bringing back the 7 cause it is more of a sports car is wrong! Let it live in
history.
You need to move forward. Yes the 7 was bad ***. But the 8 his having it's glory
too. I love the rotary but did not have a chance to own a 7. I have driven a
friends 7 and it was fast. He likes my 8.
Maybe the 4 doors is the problem?
In two more years if the 7 is in production, bye that time i will have about 300-
350whp.
sports car. Seems the 8 is having fun in racing and winning some events!
Bringing back the 7 cause it is more of a sports car is wrong! Let it live in
history.
You need to move forward. Yes the 7 was bad ***. But the 8 his having it's glory
too. I love the rotary but did not have a chance to own a 7. I have driven a
friends 7 and it was fast. He likes my 8.
Maybe the 4 doors is the problem?
In two more years if the 7 is in production, bye that time i will have about 300-
350whp.
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The idea is 350Z/G35c my man... get both markets. Someone who wants 2+2 sports car and can carry their golf clubs and for someone who wants a ***** to the wall sports car (350Z, S2000, etc.). Thus we have the RX-8 and the RX-7. Plus use your heads... the platform has already been remade into a 2 seater for the miata... dev costs spent and will definitely recoupe... some costs were already spread on the 8 as well. SO now coming to the 7.... hard top miata with a unique hot body, 19" rims, and a FI Renesis.... or a larger displacement Renesis. Done... low dev costs and how many people are going to turn this car down? how many are holding out for the next 7 instead of getting an 8? How many 8 owners are ready to trade their 8 in on a 7 when it comes out? There you go... Mazda/Ford ain't dumb.
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Yes they are dumb! I will not trade my 8 for a miata- 7 or so for any reason!
The aftermarket has alot to say too. You put a Greddy turbo on a 8 and it
will run with a FD7 all day. Just ask some expert's
The RX7 will not return as far as i know!!
The aftermarket has alot to say too. You put a Greddy turbo on a 8 and it
will run with a FD7 all day. Just ask some expert's
The RX7 will not return as far as i know!!
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Yeah yeah... and put on the GReddy single turbo kit on the 7 and it will kill the turbo 8. Port the 7 on top of that and there's nothing to talk about. It's like running an 8 against an STi (even with turbo).
Who said it would look or feel anything like a miata? Do some learning before you make dumb comments. Using the platform as the base for the 7 and just dropping the Renesis in a hardtop Miata are two entirely different things. I said the 8 platform has been REENGINEERED for a 2 seater sports car already.![Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Mazda doesn't care if you don't want one. There are plenty of other people who do.
Who said it would look or feel anything like a miata? Do some learning before you make dumb comments. Using the platform as the base for the 7 and just dropping the Renesis in a hardtop Miata are two entirely different things. I said the 8 platform has been REENGINEERED for a 2 seater sports car already.
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Mazda doesn't care if you don't want one. There are plenty of other people who do.
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Yeah the FD is nearly STI and EVO MR level stock--all you'd need on an FD is a downpipe, exhaust, intake, and boost controller--you are very low 13s and high 12s with that type of setup.
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it will totally devalue and conflict with the RX-8.. it makes NO SUCH ECONOMICAL SENSE!!!!"
And remember...
mazdaspeed = time to move on to a new style/chassis. Kinda of a last "huzzah!" of an outgoing platform.
Mazdaspeed Protege comes out...bye protege's, hello Mazda3
Mazdaspeed Miata comes out, bye old platform, hello new MX-5 chassis.
Mazdaspeed 6 comes out, bye old sporty mid-sized, hello --deleted--
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Originally Posted by Mzdarx8
I do not understand Mazda! Why produce the RX8 8 years later
Originally Posted by Mzdarx8
The aftermarket has alot to say too. You put a Greddy turbo on a 8 and it will run with a FD7 all day. Just ask some expert's
Originally Posted by Mzdarx8
The RX7 will not return as far as i know!!
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what are you talking about- like they would go and supersize the car or something after just a couple of years. that new guy in charge of "americanizing" the cars at MNAO have an itch for something Millenia sized?
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I think it would be in Mazda's best interest to build a new 7. It would be a flagship car for them, like the Viper, or Vette is for those companies. Look at how hot the Elise is right now, selling like crazy! An FE (which is what it would be) has the potential to out class an Elise stock for stock (more power, 2600lbs, and you know Mazda can tune a suspension better than anyone) and with a few mods should be able to run with the Vette and Viper (Just like the FD back in its day) Nissan is bringing over the Skyline from what I am reading, I am sure Toyota is building a Supra like car in the near future also. Yep fella's, with the STi, Evo here, it is the return of the Japanese muscle cars once again! Forced Induction, the replacement for displacement!
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I read this over on Motor Trend's web site. Not much info obviously.
2007 Mazda RX-7 : On the drawing board is a shortened, lighter coupe boasting 280-330 hp.
2007 Mazda RX-7 : On the drawing board is a shortened, lighter coupe boasting 280-330 hp.
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Originally Posted by JanSolo
I read this over on Motor Trend's web site. Not much info obviously.
2007 Mazda RX-7 : On the drawing board is a shortened, lighter coupe boasting 280-330 hp.
2007 Mazda RX-7 : On the drawing board is a shortened, lighter coupe boasting 280-330 hp.