Kain

WOW! this thread really brings out the true character of some of the new and old members of this forum- interesting............

Deslock

Anyone who doesn't respect the EVO needs to watch this video (EVO vs Impreza). It's 350 MB, but worth it (and there's an RX-7 about 55 minutes into it):
http://www.temple.net/Best.Motoring....versus.Evo.avi

I went to my local Mitsubishi dealership to test drive it before choosing the RX8. I had called ahead of time and was told by the sales person that taking one out wouldn't be a problem, but when I got there the sales manager wouldn't let me drive it, rudely grilled me about my buying plans, and even expressed doubt that I owned the car I said I was thinking about trading in! His exact quote was "How do I know you even have a WRX?!" (it was just by chance that I didn't have it with me)

Why he acted so unprofessional is beyond me, but I let him fall on his own sword and took my business elsewhere.

I considered going to a dealer farther away but the EVO was a long-shot for me anyway. I wanted an everyday driver that's comfortable and wasn't thrilled about spending >$25k. There's no question that the EVO will destroy an RX-8 at the track, but the fastest car isn't always the most fun. After the WRX I wanted something with more uniform power delivery, instant throttle response, a smooth short-throw shifter, and nimble and neutral road-feel.

But for pure performance, the EVO is an excellent deal.

Feras

iTrader: (1)

yeah the Evolution is a completely different kind of car than an 8 so i dont think just doing a vs. thread is doing this justice. Just making people on both sides angry. I was on the fence between and evo 8 and rx8 myself before i chose the rx8. Mitsubishi as a company seems to have some sort of problem with anyone under 25 driving their performance vehicles even if they can prove they have the means to buy one. What it came to is that the dealer didnt let me really try the car out anywhere, while the mazda dealer encouraged me to test the limits of the RX-8. I think the company and community make a difference too

...unless all you care about is 1/4 mile times (as a lot of people here do, guess what guys nothing impressive about a 14 13 or 12 second 1/4 mile...that just looks good against, for example a civic). If you choose an evo 8 for 1/4 mile times, i think you've wasted a car that was built and meant to be driven on a track.

kcruboy

Scorp76....

Wow man looks like sumbody took my comments kinda personally huh? Yeah I gues it does suck to be told by a "boring - *** Honda" that your car is slow, and then realizing that it's true. But hey, at least you can brake faster! Look, like I said, I do like many things about the 8 , including its looks, handling, and brakes, but in terms of acceleration, its quite underpowered.

To be honest, my car may not be all that exciting compared to an EVO, but how fast is YOUR car again? I don't want mag times, I wanna see your own, actual 1/4 mile slip, or else you can juss shut it. And just to educate you a lil, since that's apparantly what you need, my "boring, over-priced Honda" took only two basic upgrades (intake and ecu) to run low 14's....not too bad for a Honda I think.

Since your in Texas (and I am to), I'd be more than happy to run you and put the video online. I mean, its juss a boring, unamazing Honda rite? haha....can't wait to put this online.....

Feras

iTrader: (1)

you know what kinda 1/4 mile id find impressive...something in the 9s or 10s otherwise, metaphorically we're talking about taking a yugo to laguna seca for a track day.

...drag racing is for 16 year olds and real dragsters!

canaryrx8

iTrader: (3)

Some people get it, some people don't.

SuperTunerShow

OMG did I just read somebody with an auto RX8 bash an EVO? You have to be kidding me...

AbusiveWombat

I'd go with the EVO.

Here's why:

Pros for the EVO:
- more power (everywhere in the rpms)
- more performance (1/4 mile, cornering, braking, slalom)
- more practicality (4 real doors, bigger backseat, bigger trunk, more headroom)
- if you're into modifiying...more hp/$
- AWD for better snow/rain performance
- standard DIN stereo...so you can replace with a nice aftermarket unit

Cons against the EVO:
- not as pretty as the RX8
- no luxery (no Nav, no cruise, no power seats, no auto climate,..etc)
- AWD can be hard on the clutch depending on your driving style. I've got 16k and still going with no problems but some have gone through a clutch in under 10k.
- noisy (very little sound deadening)
- paint quality (the paint is very thin)
- interior material quality (the EVO materials are ok but they're definitely no BMW, Lexus, or Acura)

As you can see I'm a performance/practicality guy so I chose the EVO.

HeelnToe

Add:

- No side air bags, with poor side impact safety ratings (two stars?)
- Reports of rust, mainly behind rear bumper

These cons, along with the previously listed ones, eventually pushed me into the 8 instead of the Evo. I don't mind the lack of luxury (those Recaros are very nice though) in the Evo, but I didn't want to wake up every day worrying about my clutch slipping ($1,000+- to have replaced), rust spots, paint peeling off, and poor side impact protection. Again, a wonderful car to drive - and many owners have had ZERO problems with it - but I didn't want to chance it.

Hanzo

The clutch problem is cause by people dropping them at high rpms repeatedly for drag racing (which the car is not made for). Rust spots in the rear bumper from what I've heard is cause by the USDM rear bumper beam being added. Paint is better than Subaru and does not peel. It does chip just like any other car. As for the side impact I think the 2 star is from the crash test of the regular Lancer. There is not side airbag, which is a good and bad thing. Side airbags increase weight up top where you don't want weight however it is a good safety feature to have.

RX8 have it's own share of problems as well.

DragonStar4681

to be honest i never looked at the Evo before i bought my 8. sometime i wish i had just to rule it out. on another note. it may all be opinion and all, but from people i know and my own experiance i believe mazda is a lot better to work with on warranty issues. may not be important but it was for me.

scorp76

From where I sit, anyone who paid $24k for a tiny 200 hp coupe that's largely considered a girl's car and looks designed for old folks shouldn't talk. Especially not when it has to be modded for acceptable results.

Your car isn't exciting compared to ANY car north of $17k.

I'm sure you'd love that. But see, I'm not the one with the username that includes "boy" so unlike you, I've outgrown boyish activities like racing to prove my dick isn't short. Go find you another riceboy like Ike if you need to validate your boyhood. I'm sure he'd be all for it.

kcruboy

SCORP 76...

All the weak points you attempt to make are very subjective and really quite immature. It's too bad that you have to stoop so low as to try to insult someone for driving a Honda. Honda's are reliable, well-built cars, and I'm just trying to represent my RSX in a fair way. All the things you say are truly pathetic and make you look like an ***.

I still think I hit a sensitive nerve in you by reminding you that your car is still slow. Kinda like thinking your the shiet cuz you have big biceps and take steroids, but being caught with your pants down. Anyways, I'll take your weak attempt at at an insult as a decline to race me. It's ok, I understand you wanna keep your pants up.

Sorry to everyone else for going so far off topic. Go Evo!

Feras

iTrader: (1)

the rx-8 is not a blazing fast car in a straight line but id like to see you keep up with him on a GT track

HeelnToe

So RTEC (Fred)... what are your thoughts on the issue now?

Not to muddy the waters, but keep in mind there are other cars to consider in this category. I drove an RSX-S, TSX, WRX, Evo (4 times, lol), Mazda3, and Jetta GLI before deciding on the 8. Sometimes driving cars you don't end up wanting (all nice cars, just not for me) helps clarify what you really DO want

Elara

Can we STOP with the personal insults?

WRX8Titan

kcruboy,

no one should be bragging about a 14.3. My WRX would kill your RSX (or even a Hyundata 4) even if I gave you a 10 car head start. And what are you doing on an RX8 board? All I ever see you do is put down the 8 in some way. I actually like RSX's, its a shame that its owned by a troll.

kcruboy

WRX8Titan...

Your right, a 14.3 is not something to brag about. So RX8's that are significantly slower than this shouldn't sit here and try and tell me how my "Honda" is basically a boring piece of crap. I'm not trying to stick this in everyone's faces, just those who try and put down RSX's without knowing squat about them.

The reason I'm on here? I've been considering getting an RX8, which I have stated is a fine car several times. I like to do my research before making such a large purchase, and one of the weakest points to me is the car's lack of power. I have no regrets cruising these boards and gathering info. while providing some of my own opinions.

I see you own a wrx, but guess what.....I really don't care what your doing on this board.

Feras

iTrader: (1)

the cars got plenty of power for the race track and for its size, .93G on the skidpad is proof enough that once you're going the competition is going to have trouble getting to ya in the twisties...in an RSX your front wheels steer brake and accelerate, you can't possibly maximize cornering when you can only use your contact patch for steering or acceleration (where a rwd drive car can maximize on using the front tires for steering and the rears for acceleration)...in the end kcruboy you've gotta test drive the car...its not a drag racer but it will put a smile on your face and theres nothing we can say that will simulate the driving experience, so just head on over to your mazda dealer and give one a go

HeelnToe

It's not so bad, but if you're used to a VTEC kick (RSX-S) or turbo spooling (WRX), the 8 might feel lacking since it's sooooo linear in it's power delivery. It has it's own charms, but it's not for everyone. The advantage is there's no rpm peak or turbo spool to wait for.

The Evo of course has a tremendous kick when it spools, which is incredibly amusing. The 8 won't provide that sort of pleasure, though for me, it's overall balance and smoothness were more important.

WRX8Titan

You are basically putting down the RX8 in this thread, and from the looks of it you don't seem that interested, you are just giddy about your kill story on clubrsx. And I am on this board because I am an 8 owner as well.

scorp76

Right, right, like you were so mature when you popped off on the RX8 because someone didnt praise the 'almighty' Evo? You're just as much an *** for that, regardless of how you tried to kiss *** by throwing a few nice words in too. Try to represent your little car all you want kid. You're still a boy with a girl's car and not impressing anyone.

You can think whatever the *** you want. I don't even HAVE an 8, which I've said before. I do know a car that's superior to the RSX when I see one (which, btw, is a LOT of cars), and have no problem bringing an RSXboy back to reality when he pops off like he owns something special.

RTEC

Hey guys!

I'm leaning towards the RX-8. I'm gonna try to go for a test drive tommorow and see what happens. I think the refinement and looks will steer me towards the RX-8. I think I'd rather have a car with lots of refinement and some performance rather than a car with a lot of performance and zero refinement. I'll keep you guys updated.

Fred

Elara

Thread closed (nothing against you, RTEC). You guys just can't leave stuff alone, can you?