Rx8 vs IS250 /IS350
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Rx8 vs IS250 /IS350
I don't think any stock manual 8 can beat stock IS250 in manual, the dyno of IS250 is 176HP. While the IS350 has 260 @wheel.
Mazda needs to build up 280 HP in 08 or nobody will buy it.
Dam this is a sad news.
Start with 36,000 for the IS250 with 4 doors sharp lexury sedan better compare to the 39000 for the 8 in canada + all the recalls.
Thats more sad!!
Mazda needs to build up 280 HP in 08 or nobody will buy it.
Dam this is a sad news.
Start with 36,000 for the IS250 with 4 doors sharp lexury sedan better compare to the 39000 for the 8 in canada + all the recalls.
Thats more sad!!
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Even hp/weight isn't everything. Bhp certainly isn't everything. As long as there are a "fair" number of curves involved, a good set of brakes can be worth more $10,000 in engine modifications. Few cars, even with "great" engines, can accellerare faster than most cars with even "poor" brakes.
There are lots of high hp cars the Rx8's power can't out accellerate, but not may than can out brake it, ... and if the stock system isn't robust enough for you, you can always add a beefier big brake kit for something less than $2k, that can make you faster around a road course track than $10,000 worth of "horsepower" engine modifications. BTDT, so far repeatedly this year.
There are lots of high hp cars the Rx8's power can't out accellerate, but not may than can out brake it, ... and if the stock system isn't robust enough for you, you can always add a beefier big brake kit for something less than $2k, that can make you faster around a road course track than $10,000 worth of "horsepower" engine modifications. BTDT, so far repeatedly this year.
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IS250
0 to 60 - 7.2 secs
1/4mile - 15.4 secs
weight - 3465lb
IS350
0 to 60 - 5.6 secs
1/4mile - 13.7
weight - 3600lb
the IS350 is obviously faster in the 1/4, but at that weight it'll get spanked autocrossing.
http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroa...xus-is250.html
0 to 60 - 7.2 secs
1/4mile - 15.4 secs
weight - 3465lb
IS350
0 to 60 - 5.6 secs
1/4mile - 13.7
weight - 3600lb
the IS350 is obviously faster in the 1/4, but at that weight it'll get spanked autocrossing.
http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroa...xus-is250.html
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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
IS250
0 to 60 - 7.2 secs
1/4mile - 15.4 secs
weight - 3465lb
IS350
0 to 60 - 5.6 secs
1/4mile - 13.7
weight - 3600lb
the IS350 is obviously faster in the 1/4, but at that weight it'll get spanked autocrossing.
http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroa...xus-is250.html
0 to 60 - 7.2 secs
1/4mile - 15.4 secs
weight - 3465lb
IS350
0 to 60 - 5.6 secs
1/4mile - 13.7
weight - 3600lb
the IS350 is obviously faster in the 1/4, but at that weight it'll get spanked autocrossing.
http://www.caranddriver.com/shortroa...xus-is250.html
Link: Autocross Results (Look Under Novice)
I think he did pretty good.
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my friend wants an IS350, really nice car for the price
oh btw, it sounds amazing with the hks exhaust
http://youtube.com/watch?v=21YS52IBr...IS350%20HKS%20
oh btw, it sounds amazing with the hks exhaust
http://youtube.com/watch?v=21YS52IBr...IS350%20HKS%20
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Originally Posted by OnRails
At the last autocross here a guy in an IS350 came in second in novice class.
Link: Autocross Results (Look Under Novice)
I think he did pretty good.
Link: Autocross Results (Look Under Novice)
I think he did pretty good.
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Hate to burst your bubble, but looking at random autox results (especially the novice class) won't tell you much about a car's performance. The novice results are indexed, and the raw times for the novice STi's are quicker. Also, he got spanked handily by the non-novice STis in A-stock and STU classes.
Last edited by mp5; 06-26-2006 at 05:51 PM.
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Originally Posted by R888
I don't think any stock manual 8 can beat stock IS250 in manual, the dyno of IS250 is 176HP. While the IS350 has 260 @wheel.
Mazda needs to build up 280 HP in 08 or nobody will buy it.
Dam this is a sad news.
Start with 36,000 for the IS250 with 4 doors sharp lexury sedan better compare to the 39000 for the 8 in canada + all the recalls.
Thats more sad!!
Mazda needs to build up 280 HP in 08 or nobody will buy it.
Dam this is a sad news.
Start with 36,000 for the IS250 with 4 doors sharp lexury sedan better compare to the 39000 for the 8 in canada + all the recalls.
Thats more sad!!
And I guess in Canada pricing is weird since in the US the IS250RWD Manual is 30K base, and the Rx-8 is 24K base (after rebate). Why is the RX-8 so expensive in Canada? It's $10,000 USD more in Canada?
But I do have to say I'm skeptical of your claims. Can anyone else in Canada confirm that the RX-8 goes for $39,000 Canadian dollars (US $34,714) in Canada? If the RX-8 really is that over priced in Canada, then I wouldn't get it myself.
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Originally Posted by spork
And I guess in Canada pricing is weird since in the US the IS250RWD Manual is 30K base, and the Rx-8 is 24K base (after rebate). Why is the RX-8 so expensive in Canada? It's $10,000 USD more in Canada?
But I do have to say I'm skeptical of your claims. Can anyone else in Canada confirm that the RX-8 goes for $39,000 Canadian dollars (US $34,714) in Canada? If the RX-8 really is that over priced in Canada, then I wouldn't get it myself.
But I do have to say I'm skeptical of your claims. Can anyone else in Canada confirm that the RX-8 goes for $39,000 Canadian dollars (US $34,714) in Canada? If the RX-8 really is that over priced in Canada, then I wouldn't get it myself.
http://www.mazda.ca/eng/getin/mazdam...&ModelName=RX8
We get hosed on most cars compared to US pricing. My next car will be imported from the US without a doubt.
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I'd love an IS350 for my next car. Especially with that exhaust!
...if automatics didn't bore me out of my mind.
I've got a Mazda 3 rental car right now that I hate driving just because I have nothing to do as I drive. I can totally see how so many accidents happen - it's so easy to do other things besides driving. Plus, I find my mind wandering while driving this car FAR more than when I drive my 8. It's definitely not just the car either, I love driving my roomie's stick shift 3s.
I definitely need a car that's more engaging. What's with car companies doing consumers a "favor" by making automatics mandatory? The Charger does this too - I was even a little interested in it until I heard that you're stuck with a slushbox.
Anyway, back on topic. Yeah - a stock IS250 isn't going to beat an 8 at anything but luxury and comfort. The performance is pretty decent, but it's not quite enough to take on sports cars.
...if automatics didn't bore me out of my mind.
I've got a Mazda 3 rental car right now that I hate driving just because I have nothing to do as I drive. I can totally see how so many accidents happen - it's so easy to do other things besides driving. Plus, I find my mind wandering while driving this car FAR more than when I drive my 8. It's definitely not just the car either, I love driving my roomie's stick shift 3s.
I definitely need a car that's more engaging. What's with car companies doing consumers a "favor" by making automatics mandatory? The Charger does this too - I was even a little interested in it until I heard that you're stuck with a slushbox.
Anyway, back on topic. Yeah - a stock IS250 isn't going to beat an 8 at anything but luxury and comfort. The performance is pretty decent, but it's not quite enough to take on sports cars.
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
It's $37K CDN for a base Rx8 here.
http://www.mazda.ca/eng/getin/mazdam...&ModelName=RX8
We get hosed on most cars compared to US pricing. My next car will be imported from the US without a doubt.
http://www.mazda.ca/eng/getin/mazdam...&ModelName=RX8
We get hosed on most cars compared to US pricing. My next car will be imported from the US without a doubt.
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Market demands, and competative sales directors -
But it would be lovely to lure a 350 on a twisty track and put it up against an 8... Especially with a few good long hills - the 350 might get more speed on the downhill, but that weight would make it really fun on the uphills....
But it would be lovely to lure a 350 on a twisty track and put it up against an 8... Especially with a few good long hills - the 350 might get more speed on the downhill, but that weight would make it really fun on the uphills....
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