RX8 vs. RSX type S
#51
rx8 slower than RSX type s??? Yah ok.............every mag time has the 8 faster. Its funny how guys say they run faster times in the RSX than every mag time out there, but as soon as someone says they run a good time in the 8, its all BS. And sorry, but this whole idea of "these guys run 15's", or " some guys are happy with 15.5 times", I don't buy it. put to equal drivers in both cars, and the 8 would walk away.
#52
lets not go magazine driving. the rsx is a fast little car and can hit 13's with relatively cheap mods. the rx8 is a very hard car to mod efficiently, and quite frankly, a little slow off the line. they are two completely different machines. on a quarter mile, i'd have to give it to the rsx to win, maybe not blow away the 8, but at least walk it to the finish. the 8 might have the advantage in the launch, but thats about it. stock for stock? the 8 should win it. again, not blow it away, but maybe a car length or so. the 8, like the s2k is a hard launch, you'd really have to know what you're doing.
what doug mcgill was refering to when he mentioned willow was track racing. not the quarter mile. ever seen a rsx try to run track? (not autox) they'd have a hard time catching up to the 8. but then again, this isn't quarter mile, its a 2.8mile long track run with twists and turns and straights, and the 8 will have the advantage because on track rwd always have the advantage over fwd.
the rsx and rx8 are both great cars, geared toward different types of drivers respectively. for what its worth, the modded rsx can out sprint the rx8, but i rest comfortably in knowing that if we hit a turn or two while racing, the rsx will have to nose dive to turn semi-effectively, while i can just swing around the corner with ease and comfort.
what doug mcgill was refering to when he mentioned willow was track racing. not the quarter mile. ever seen a rsx try to run track? (not autox) they'd have a hard time catching up to the 8. but then again, this isn't quarter mile, its a 2.8mile long track run with twists and turns and straights, and the 8 will have the advantage because on track rwd always have the advantage over fwd.
the rsx and rx8 are both great cars, geared toward different types of drivers respectively. for what its worth, the modded rsx can out sprint the rx8, but i rest comfortably in knowing that if we hit a turn or two while racing, the rsx will have to nose dive to turn semi-effectively, while i can just swing around the corner with ease and comfort.
#53
Originally posted by Broker73
rx8 slower than RSX type s??? Yah ok.............every mag time has the 8 faster. Its funny how guys say they run faster times in the RSX than every mag time out there, but as soon as someone says they run a good time in the 8, its all BS. And sorry, but this whole idea of "these guys run 15's", or " some guys are happy with 15.5 times", I don't buy it. put to equal drivers in both cars, and the 8 would walk away.
rx8 slower than RSX type s??? Yah ok.............every mag time has the 8 faster. Its funny how guys say they run faster times in the RSX than every mag time out there, but as soon as someone says they run a good time in the 8, its all BS. And sorry, but this whole idea of "these guys run 15's", or " some guys are happy with 15.5 times", I don't buy it. put to equal drivers in both cars, and the 8 would walk away.
Notice how I took real world times, not magazine ones?
Anyway I just saw the first 14 seccond RX8 timeslip in the racing forum.
And I never said judge itos times were BS, I just wanted to see a timeslip not some gtech crap.
I do agree stock for stock with equal drivers the 8 will probably win by a tenth or two...hardly 'walking away' as you say. It also gets its advantage off the line (rwd vs. fwd).
Im done with you now. You have the website (clubrsx.com) if you really want to check it out and not be ignorant. But i have a feeling you wont. Continue to mag race my friend...
#54
JDM Lover -
Thanks for the support. I really like both cars, but just want to see the RSX get its own proper respect.
Broker 73 -
I understand alot of magazines are running mid 14's with rx8's. But ALL of them admit its extremely difficult to do. The fact is very few drivers can do this with a stock rx8, and the crappy times listed on this site times prove this. Why dont you go try to run a 14.5 stock? Even you have to admit its very difficult and you most likely cant do it.
RX8 Bliss -
Good summary / comments. Both cars are quite close in straight line, but the rx-8 definitely has the upper hand in cornering and braking. Like I said, I respect both cars.
Thanks for the support. I really like both cars, but just want to see the RSX get its own proper respect.
Broker 73 -
I understand alot of magazines are running mid 14's with rx8's. But ALL of them admit its extremely difficult to do. The fact is very few drivers can do this with a stock rx8, and the crappy times listed on this site times prove this. Why dont you go try to run a 14.5 stock? Even you have to admit its very difficult and you most likely cant do it.
RX8 Bliss -
Good summary / comments. Both cars are quite close in straight line, but the rx-8 definitely has the upper hand in cornering and braking. Like I said, I respect both cars.
#56
about handling rx-8 is better than rsx TYPE-S but it is more likely even with TYPE-R (JDM rsx type-r)
i watched best motoring video and they were saying rx-8 and rsx type-R (integra type-r) is good match up!
i respect both of cars but i just wanna prove rsx type-s is not far behind in performance rather realy close to rx-8.
in other hand my G35 coupe is better
A JOKE!!!!!!!!
i watched best motoring video and they were saying rx-8 and rsx type-R (integra type-r) is good match up!
i respect both of cars but i just wanna prove rsx type-s is not far behind in performance rather realy close to rx-8.
in other hand my G35 coupe is better
A JOKE!!!!!!!!
#61
Can someone tell me why o why do people throw in the "mod constraint" when comparing??? what is it like a last cry for hope?
"yeah its faster BUT if they modded it, its a different story" ...... isnt it always gonna be a different story if its modded??? what if the other guy mods it too, what then? Money can buy alot. I could dump 000's, mod a K-car and beat ur *** with it, no it wouldnt be the best way to spend cash but a win is a win right? big deal.
I think we should just stick to stock for stock
"yeah its faster BUT if they modded it, its a different story" ...... isnt it always gonna be a different story if its modded??? what if the other guy mods it too, what then? Money can buy alot. I could dump 000's, mod a K-car and beat ur *** with it, no it wouldnt be the best way to spend cash but a win is a win right? big deal.
I think we should just stick to stock for stock
Last edited by TODreamer; 04-25-2005 at 06:40 PM.
#62
Originally Posted by TODreamer
Can someone tell me why o why do people throw in the "mod constraint" when comparing??? what is it like a last cry for hope?
"yeah its faster BUT if they modded it, its a different story" ...... isnt it always gonna be a different story if its modded??? what if the other guy mods it too, what then? Money can buy alot. I could dump 000's, mod a K-car and beat ur *** with it, no it wouldnt be the best way to spend cash but a win is a win right? big deal.
I think we should just stick to stock for stock
"yeah its faster BUT if they modded it, its a different story" ...... isnt it always gonna be a different story if its modded??? what if the other guy mods it too, what then? Money can buy alot. I could dump 000's, mod a K-car and beat ur *** with it, no it wouldnt be the best way to spend cash but a win is a win right? big deal.
I think we should just stick to stock for stock
"holy thread revival Batman" :p
Why compare stock to stock or a fwd to rwd. It's all a waste of time. Like you said, you can lose to a $1000 civic with a swap. I say run what u brung. F@#k all that stock vs. stock garbage unless you want to talk interior or exterior design, options or refinement. Otherwise, power and handling can be bought.
#68
Originally Posted by Captain_Ron
Can someone exlapin this to me? 200hp vs 238hp? FWD vd RWD?
how can it be close?
how can it be close?
first of all its 210Hp for the RSX type S, and 2nd the Rx8 doesnt have 238Hp!!!
As you can see people, I'm still pissed off at mazda for claiming that the 8 has 238Hp
no wonder the Rsx type S is faster
Last edited by mikefrombarrie; 04-25-2005 at 09:29 PM.
#69
ok, the type-s is faster??....oh my god. And stop griping about quoting mag times. Stock for stock, on every test done (by professionals), the 8 is faster. How can anyone dispute that? The latest test by motor trend (with the 238hp version, or whatever number you want to make up) had the 8 at 14.55 in the 1/4. Has anyone seen times for the type-s that are faster....nope. I have had real world experience with the 8 against a type-s and we do have the edge. I never said it was a blow out, but it is laughable that some of you want to think the RSX is quicker. And stop with the BS about only a few being able replicate mag times. How does anyone know what the average 1/4 times are. Oh thats' right, every 8 owner must post on here, so that makes a good comparison.
And far far as the guy who said he raced an 8 and pulled on him in 2nd and 3rd? all I can say is the guy driving the 8 must have been a crappy driver. Stock for stock, with equal drivers, the 8 will win in the 0-60, and 1/4 mile. It amazes me that every other car can run times lower than mag times (or so they say), but the 8 consistently runs higher times (that's all I hear), and only the odd one can produce mid 14's....give me a break. Tell that to the RSX-S I showed my bumper to last week. And he couldn't catch me.
The type-s is quick, but it won't outrun an 8......sorry to burst anyone's fantasy.
And far far as the guy who said he raced an 8 and pulled on him in 2nd and 3rd? all I can say is the guy driving the 8 must have been a crappy driver. Stock for stock, with equal drivers, the 8 will win in the 0-60, and 1/4 mile. It amazes me that every other car can run times lower than mag times (or so they say), but the 8 consistently runs higher times (that's all I hear), and only the odd one can produce mid 14's....give me a break. Tell that to the RSX-S I showed my bumper to last week. And he couldn't catch me.
The type-s is quick, but it won't outrun an 8......sorry to burst anyone's fantasy.
#70
Originally Posted by Broker73
ok, the type-s is faster??....oh my god. And stop griping about quoting mag times. Stock for stock, on every test done (by professionals), the 8 is faster. How can anyone dispute that? The latest test by motor trend (with the 238hp version, or whatever number you want to make up) had the 8 at 14.55 in the 1/4. Has anyone seen times for the type-s that are faster....nope. I have had real world experience with the 8 against a type-s and we do have the edge. I never said it was a blow out, but it is laughable that some of you want to think the RSX is quicker. And stop with the BS about only a few being able replicate mag times. How does anyone know what the average 1/4 times are. Oh thats' right, every 8 owner must post on here, so that makes a good comparison.
And far far as the guy who said he raced an 8 and pulled on him in 2nd and 3rd? all I can say is the guy driving the 8 must have been a crappy driver. Stock for stock, with equal drivers, the 8 will win in the 0-60, and 1/4 mile. It amazes me that every other car can run times lower than mag times (or so they say), but the 8 consistently runs higher times (that's all I hear), and only the odd one can produce mid 14's....give me a break. Tell that to the RSX-S I showed my bumper to last week. And he couldn't catch me.
The type-s is quick, but it won't outrun an 8......sorry to burst anyone's fantasy.
And far far as the guy who said he raced an 8 and pulled on him in 2nd and 3rd? all I can say is the guy driving the 8 must have been a crappy driver. Stock for stock, with equal drivers, the 8 will win in the 0-60, and 1/4 mile. It amazes me that every other car can run times lower than mag times (or so they say), but the 8 consistently runs higher times (that's all I hear), and only the odd one can produce mid 14's....give me a break. Tell that to the RSX-S I showed my bumper to last week. And he couldn't catch me.
The type-s is quick, but it won't outrun an 8......sorry to burst anyone's fantasy.
#73
i think i have the answer you are looking for...
i'm here in school... i have an rx8 with intake, midpipe and exhaust, clutch to come soon and full suspension upgrades...
my friend has a black type-s with Injen intake... and hondata (kinda like our cz unit).
i was "f-ing" around and i floored it in 2nd gear at 3krpm, and he launched in 1st gear. We call know that our 8's Don't have low end, but he was slowly creeping up on me... very slowly -- up until the point i hit my powerband...
then, i pulled away, but he BITCHES saying, oh ****, my type-S was gaining on you...
i wanted to punch him in the face, but i realized we have a lady killer, and he has a rice cooker.
Bottom line - the ACURA TYPE-S is the car that is MOST -RESPONSIVE to mods... b/c it's so restricted from stock. A CAI itself gives the rsx type-s a whopping 13whp. His Hondata should be giving him 20 to the wheels... so, yea...
our cars barely get 1-3rwhp from a HKS racing suction kit ::SIGH::
but i have to comment: when the air box for the rsx is out, it is "ugly as aids." it's like 1/2 the engine bay got cut off!! sooo damn ugly. Also, for the rsx type-s, the headers are very restricted. So with all that power, the pressure bottlenecks at the headers and he won't be able to gain too much.
IN SHORT, our rx-8's are pimp, while the rsx begs to be comparable to the 8.
Just do what i do - if he says he can beat you --- say, your HON-DUHHH doesn't even belong with our whips...
Enjoy the 8 man...
CZ 1.1 w/ stage 2.0 with SR MOTORSPORTS' extreme clutch package to be installed within the next two weeks!! YES!
i'm here in school... i have an rx8 with intake, midpipe and exhaust, clutch to come soon and full suspension upgrades...
my friend has a black type-s with Injen intake... and hondata (kinda like our cz unit).
i was "f-ing" around and i floored it in 2nd gear at 3krpm, and he launched in 1st gear. We call know that our 8's Don't have low end, but he was slowly creeping up on me... very slowly -- up until the point i hit my powerband...
then, i pulled away, but he BITCHES saying, oh ****, my type-S was gaining on you...
i wanted to punch him in the face, but i realized we have a lady killer, and he has a rice cooker.
Bottom line - the ACURA TYPE-S is the car that is MOST -RESPONSIVE to mods... b/c it's so restricted from stock. A CAI itself gives the rsx type-s a whopping 13whp. His Hondata should be giving him 20 to the wheels... so, yea...
our cars barely get 1-3rwhp from a HKS racing suction kit ::SIGH::
but i have to comment: when the air box for the rsx is out, it is "ugly as aids." it's like 1/2 the engine bay got cut off!! sooo damn ugly. Also, for the rsx type-s, the headers are very restricted. So with all that power, the pressure bottlenecks at the headers and he won't be able to gain too much.
IN SHORT, our rx-8's are pimp, while the rsx begs to be comparable to the 8.
Just do what i do - if he says he can beat you --- say, your HON-DUHHH doesn't even belong with our whips...
Enjoy the 8 man...
CZ 1.1 w/ stage 2.0 with SR MOTORSPORTS' extreme clutch package to be installed within the next two weeks!! YES!
#74
Even the RSX guys think the 8 is faster:
http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...highlight=rx-8
...interesting, no?
http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...highlight=rx-8
...interesting, no?
#75