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Old 02-15-2011, 02:39 PM
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AU SKY Engines in Mazda 3 First, this year 2011.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257837007BB6F8

Minagi is CX-7 says GoAuto?

At Geneva Auto Show, as well as a new Gen Mazda 6!

New CX-7 in 2012 with Sky.
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If the author intend Shinari for next-gen 6 , is it correct......

Thanks, Ash...maybe the next front-susp. is a strut...definetly.....

Mx-5 and rotary car are still in shadow......definetly i don't expect a Rx-9 four door....sadly.....
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On new SkyActiv Chassis and Body structure....

Even the future MX-5 and RX sports car ranges will incorporate aspects of this approach despite their rear-drive layout.
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Even the future MX-5 and RX sports car ranges will incorporate aspects of this approach despite their rear-drive layout.
This is the only new phrase about Next-Gen RWD chassis since a couple of years...since the "under 1000 kg ND" statement
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Testing In Australia (Mazda 6 with SkyActiv and Sky-D)..

It brought to mind modern twin-turbo BMW diesels – the TPV (SKY-D) prototype’s engine was that good.


Did we mention that this will be the first production Mazda diesel passenger car with an automatic gearbox?

We wondered if the Japanese company had not quietly slipped a DCT dual-clutch transmission under the bonnet, so swift and smooth were the gear changes.

Bolt-like decisiveness, with no DSG-like low-down lag at take-off, it will make the long wait for a Mazda diesel auto totally worthwhile. We just hope the production Sky Activ D with Sky Activ Drive (what a mouthful!) is as good as Mazda’s mature test mule.
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i was just Googling for Mazda news and didnt see this at all. scooped again by Ash
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Testing In Australia (Mazda 6 with SkyActiv and Sky-D)..

It brought to mind modern twin-turbo BMW diesels – the TPV (SKY-D) prototype’s engine was that good.
after reading a lot of tests of SKY -D under current 6 body (including japanese video test) , i'm preety sure that new diesel will be a fantastic engine...i've seen in a japanese video the rev counter go until 5500 rpm without problems....i can assure that is AMAZING for a diesel......the Le Mans Audi don't rev higher than that 6.....
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Just as noteworthy is the chassis. At Sandown, the TPV felt like it combined the sharpness of a feisty Ford set-up with the lightness of, well, a BMW, if not an MX-5. The Japanese engineers on hand told us that the prototype’s weight distribution was slightly better than Mazda’s current sedan crop, but still in the vicinity of 60:40 front-to-rear.

Whatever. Low-speed turn in was satisfyingly crisp and composed, yet the fast slalom changes revealed a tied-down rear end. This car is some 140kg lighter than the equivalent current Mazda6 and – boy – it shows.

We had to remind ourselves that the steering was electric. Surely this prototype has the potential to morph into the sportiest and most interactive Mazda sedan.

The only real advance we could not ascertain was the ride quality – a racetrack is no place to assess suspension comfort. But on the strength of all the other attributes, we have high hopes indeed.

And we didn’t even notice if that notorious Mazda road noise issue was present in the TPV. The engineers claim that this issue, too, will be exorcised from the future product. We’ll have to wait and see.

Later in the day, a drive in today’s regular diesel manual Mazda6 showed just how far the Japanese engineers are progressing with the new chassis, engine, suspension and other Sky Activ technologies. Not that the current vehicle is lacking.

It just feels soggy and old by comparison.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdpfY...eature=related

around minute 1:30

5500 4th gear and switch to 5th is AMAZING for a diesel engine

1500 rmps MORE than current L4 engines.......

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wow did you see the thermographs of the fuel injection and flame propogation at 2:08 ? amazing how late the injection is in the newer engine.
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Originally Posted by ASH8
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257837007BB6F8

Minagi is CX-7 says GoAuto?

At Geneva Auto Show, as well as a new Gen Mazda 6!

New CX-7 in 2012 with Sky.
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257837007EE223

well they say the CX-7 is getting slightly bigger by moving completly to the next Mazda 6 platform while

the Minagi concept to be unveiled at next month’s Geneva motor show will form the basis for a smaller yet roomier successor for the company, to take on the popular Subaru Forester and Toyota RAV4 from next year.

Aimed at appealing to Japanese and European consumers rather than the American market-focussed CX-7, the resulting ‘CX-5’ will leverage the upcoming Sky Activ chassis’ greater packaging to help deliver a more compact yet roomier vehicle.
so the CX-5(Minagi concept) will be smaller than the current and next CX-7 but will have a roomier interior than the current CX-7 because of the better packaging.
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wow did you see the thermographs of the fuel injection and flame propogation at 2:08 ? amazing how late the injection is in the newer engine.
that's the name of the game in diesels, remember that diesel fuel don't explode (like gasoline do) , just burn.......

for doin' this they must have a PERFECT control (and timing) of all conditions in chambers....

very interesting....
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So will the next 6 be the same car everywhere, or does north america get stuck with the toyota wannabe with new engines?
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Originally Posted by kvndoom
So will the next 6 be the same car everywhere, or does north america get stuck with the toyota wannabe with new engines?
Yes, I have thought of that one also...

I read back a few months that "hinted" the next 6 will come out of Japan for NA market.

However, I thought Flat Rock was/is a joint 50:50 venture with Mazda/Ford.

So what does Mazda do with the plant?

Charlie will know..
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no i have literally no idea.
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What an excellent article. Thanks Ash.

All of you sharp eyed enthusiasts: Ash, Matt, Zoom; you guys really make this forum my kind of entertainment.

Paul.
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Yeah, WE all try to please....

This is WHY this RX-8 Club forum (this one) is one of the BEST Mazda and Car Forums in "THE WORLD" (Jeremy Clarkson voice).


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Originally Posted by ASH8
Yeah, WE all try to please....

This is WHY this RX-8 Club forum (this one) is one of the BEST Mazda and Car Forums in "THE WORLD" (Jeremy Clarkson voice).


i agree
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