Test drove a '06 STI:Enthusiast Impression
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Originally Posted by bascho
Are they sports cars or rally cars? make up your mind.
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Originally Posted by bascho
I agree with you on that......I don't think the wing is there because of the movies either. But because of the movies, the giant wings are now considered rice more than rally
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Originally Posted by nt5k
Uh, no. All that has to happen to meet WRC requirements is to have 25k road going sedans and a number of kits to transform them to WRC cars. Subaru could make do with just a regular Impreza to meet those requirement.
Did you ever see a Hyundai Elantra that was as powerful as the STi? Right, you didn't because it wasn't a requirement for them to have one to be able to race in the WRC.
The STi/Evo exist only to be sold as another car in the lineup and has nothing to do with WRC requirements.
Did you ever see a Hyundai Elantra that was as powerful as the STi? Right, you didn't because it wasn't a requirement for them to have one to be able to race in the WRC.
The STi/Evo exist only to be sold as another car in the lineup and has nothing to do with WRC requirements.
I'm by no means an expert on the various regs in WRC, though - I could be wrong about this.
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Originally Posted by nt5k
Uh, no. All that has to happen to meet WRC requirements is to have 25k road going sedans and a number of kits to transform them to WRC cars. Subaru could make do with just a regular Impreza to meet those requirement.
Did you ever see a Hyundai Elantra that was as powerful as the STi? Right, you didn't because it wasn't a requirement for them to have one to be able to race in the WRC.
The STi/Evo exist only to be sold as another car in the lineup and has nothing to do with WRC requirements.
Did you ever see a Hyundai Elantra that was as powerful as the STi? Right, you didn't because it wasn't a requirement for them to have one to be able to race in the WRC.
The STi/Evo exist only to be sold as another car in the lineup and has nothing to do with WRC requirements.
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Originally Posted by RevTo9K
I should have been more specific. I was referring to P-WRC Group N cars. My understanding was that those cars were showroom specification, road-legal cars, and that the only modifications allowed were rollcage, harnesses, and underbody protection of gas tank etc. for running on dirt and rocks.
I'm by no means an expert on the various regs in WRC, though - I could be wrong about this.
I'm by no means an expert on the various regs in WRC, though - I could be wrong about this.
Good point.. Forgot all about the other groups..
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These threads are always fun. You get a great review at the beginning and then 4 pages underhanded compliments and mindless dribble from the haters. It would be nice if people actually knew something about the history of the STi before regurgitating bits of negative info that may or may not be true...
1.) The STi exists as a result of WRC homogolation rules
2.) F&F hit theaters about 10 years after the first STi hit Japanese showrooms
3.) Petter Solberg's rally car began it's life as a production vehicle
4.) The STi line has been a well built and reliable vehicle for 15 years
5.) RX-8 production will cease long before STi production
1.) The STi exists as a result of WRC homogolation rules
2.) F&F hit theaters about 10 years after the first STi hit Japanese showrooms
3.) Petter Solberg's rally car began it's life as a production vehicle
4.) The STi line has been a well built and reliable vehicle for 15 years
5.) RX-8 production will cease long before STi production
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Bummed, but bring on OU!
Originally Posted by Steiner
These threads are always fun. You get a great review at the beginning and then 4 pages underhanded compliments and mindless dribble from the haters (plus a few pages of those trying to defend the car and quoting it's rally heritage, and stating how much better it is than anything with 4 wheels). It would be nice if people actually knew something about the history of the STi before regurgitating bits of negative info that may or may not be true...
1.) The STi exists as a result of WRC homogolation rules
2.) F&F hit theaters about 10 years after the first STi hit Japanese showrooms
3.) Petter Solberg's rally car began it's life as a production vehicle
4.) The STi line has been a well built and reliable vehicle for 15 years
5.) RX-8 production will cease long before STi production
6.) Not many people actually care.
1.) The STi exists as a result of WRC homogolation rules
2.) F&F hit theaters about 10 years after the first STi hit Japanese showrooms
3.) Petter Solberg's rally car began it's life as a production vehicle
4.) The STi line has been a well built and reliable vehicle for 15 years
5.) RX-8 production will cease long before STi production
6.) Not many people actually care.
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Originally Posted by therm8
You forgot some stuff...
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Originally Posted by Steiner
These threads are always fun. You get a great review at the beginning and then 4 pages underhanded compliments and mindless dribble from the haters. It would be nice if people actually knew something about the history of the STi before regurgitating bits of negative info that may or may not be true...
1.) The STi exists as a result of WRC homogolation rules
2.) F&F hit theaters about 10 years after the first STi hit Japanese showrooms
3.) Petter Solberg's rally car began it's life as a production vehicle
4.) The STi line has been a well built and reliable vehicle for 15 years
5.) RX-8 production will cease long before STi production
1.) The STi exists as a result of WRC homogolation rules
2.) F&F hit theaters about 10 years after the first STi hit Japanese showrooms
3.) Petter Solberg's rally car began it's life as a production vehicle
4.) The STi line has been a well built and reliable vehicle for 15 years
5.) RX-8 production will cease long before STi production
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Originally Posted by JRichter
Now why can't we have WRC coverage in America ?
http://www.petitiononline.com/svsn/petition.html
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Originally Posted by Steiner
I feel your pain brutha. After the first petition got 65k signatures they started this one...
http://www.petitiononline.com/svsn/petition.html
http://www.petitiononline.com/svsn/petition.html
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Bummed, but bring on OU!
Originally Posted by Steiner
Hmmm witty. Although I think your own insecurities have got the best of you. Nobody with an Evo negatively compared it to an RX-8 in this thread. And people do care. It got 4 pages of replies in less than 24 hours. You clicked on the thread too. Or did you think a thread titled "Test drove a '06 STI:Enthusiast Impression" would be about something else?
There's your problem. You assume everyone with an Rx-8 is insecure about their car when someone mentions the godly STI or Evo. People "don't care" about the so called Rally heritage behind the cars, how long some version of the car has been in production, etc. I never said that no one cares about a review of a test drive.
Btw, = humor, ie said in jest, lighten up, not everyone hates your car. (see there it is again)
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Aye, I don't hate the car, but you guys (Steiner and Ike) are definitely getting quite defensive about your cars (in a thread based on a positive review, no less). I'm not insecure with my car - in fact, I definitely prefer NOT having such a raw car as a daily driver - but I'm seeing some shades of the pot calling the kettle black with you guys.
Most of the general population will see the STi and Evo as a hopped up kid's car, not for its rally heritage or performance value. I think everyone here already understands what it is, but some still see it as a hopped up econocar and that's really not far from the truth. They're both, after all, tuned up versions of economy cars.
Again, I don't hate the car, but I think you're interpreting some widespread public preception as insecurity with one's own car and are in turn showing a bit of insecurity yourselves.
Most of the general population will see the STi and Evo as a hopped up kid's car, not for its rally heritage or performance value. I think everyone here already understands what it is, but some still see it as a hopped up econocar and that's really not far from the truth. They're both, after all, tuned up versions of economy cars.
Again, I don't hate the car, but I think you're interpreting some widespread public preception as insecurity with one's own car and are in turn showing a bit of insecurity yourselves.
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Sorry, I suppose it's more with Steiner and Eric. I'm just calling it as I see it. I wouldn't imagine this would be such an issue if they weren't getting so wound up by a couple haters. I'm sure you know I rarely enter these kinds of threads since I don't see all the boasting about one's car to be necessary. Sure, a couple of the 8 guys are doing the same, but I'm seeing it on the other side as well.
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Originally Posted by therm8
There's your problem. You assume everyone with an Rx-8 is insecure about their car when someone mentions the godly STI or Evo...
Originally Posted by Rhawb
Aye, I don't hate the car, but you guys (Steiner and Ike) are definitely getting quite defensive about your cars (in a thread based on a positive review, no less). I'm not insecure with my car - in fact, I definitely prefer NOT having such a raw car as a daily driver - but I'm seeing some shades of the pot calling the kettle black with you guys.
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Originally Posted by Rhawb
Sorry, I suppose it's more with Steiner and Eric.
Again, as I posted in the other thread, I only respond when idiot RX-8 owners open their big mouths and start saying stupid things. 9291150 hasn't posted in here, so nothing that stupid has been said yet.
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Originally Posted by Steiner
Maybe if they felt and defended their wives in the same way our divorce rate wouldn't be 50%+.
Just to be clear, I'm not trying to flame. Just pointing out that it seems like the STi/Evo camps are digging their heels in a bit more than they notice.
Also, I seem to be mixing up threads a bit. My bad.
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