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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
^^^^ Clueless
The Evo is for people who care about performance above all Else, there was a time when Ferrari's and other supercars were the same way, stripped down interiors with few creature comforts and in many cases with supercars the craftsmanship and tolerances were shoddy. Yes they were very attractive cars, but people loved them for their performance more than anything.
The Evo is for people who care about performance above all Else, there was a time when Ferrari's and other supercars were the same way, stripped down interiors with few creature comforts and in many cases with supercars the craftsmanship and tolerances were shoddy. Yes they were very attractive cars, but people loved them for their performance more than anything.
I just...don't care about speed and performance as much as the next guy, guess thats why I got an RX-8. That doesn't make me clueless (something I kinda take offense to) it just shows that we differ on whats importaint. You have a WRX, I like those cars a lot, same idea as the EVO (kinda) but at least they made the WRX look a lot nicer.
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I only say clueless because you just can't grasp that it being ugly is an opinion and that many people love it simply for the performance and the rest doesn't matter a whole lot. There really are people out there that love the looks of the Evo as well. I prefer the WRX/STi for looks, but the stance of the Evo is very appealing to me. One of my favorite cars of all time is the E30 M3, for some reason I like the boxy look with fender flares. If they took all the characteristics of the Evo and put it in an RX-8 shell or a more attractive sleeker body yes I'd probably like it more, but something tells me it would be closer to 40k at that point because a lot more money would have to be dumped into design.
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
I only say clueless because you just can't grasp that it being ugly is an opinion and that many people love it simply for the performance and the rest doesn't matter a whole lot. There really are people out there that love the looks of the Evo as well. I prefer the WRX/STi for looks, but the stance of the Evo is very appealing to me. One of my favorite cars of all time is the E30 M3, for some reason I like the boxy look with fender flares. If they took all the characteristics of the Evo and put it in an RX-8 shell or a more attractive sleeker body yes I'd probably like it more, but something tells me it would be closer to 40k at that point because a lot more money would have to be dumped into design.
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Originally Posted by Rupes
It's not really clueless to say I don't understand why someone would love an ugly looking car. A lot of the poeple that own it think it's not very attractive. I pointed out already that i respect it for it's speed, and grip. Why does that mean that I should like it? The point I was making is they could put that powertrain in a dozen other cars and at least it would look nice as well as being functional. You said yourself Ferrari's were attractive. Even the Porsche discussed looked nice. Hell, to this day Ferrari's are stripped down in many ways. They still look very nice, and thats what gets peoples heads turning.
I just...don't care about speed and performance as much as the next guy, guess thats why I got an RX-8. That doesn't make me clueless (something I kinda take offense to) it just shows that we differ on whats importaint. You have a WRX, I like those cars a lot, same idea as the EVO (kinda) but at least they made the WRX look a lot nicer.
I just...don't care about speed and performance as much as the next guy, guess thats why I got an RX-8. That doesn't make me clueless (something I kinda take offense to) it just shows that we differ on whats importaint. You have a WRX, I like those cars a lot, same idea as the EVO (kinda) but at least they made the WRX look a lot nicer.
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Cheapest car of the bunch by nearly 20k, only 4 cylinder in the bunch, nearly the lowest HP, how did it do? 2nd Quickest 1/4 mile (behind the Hennessey Venom), 3rd fastest roadcourse (Behind the Evotech Gallardo and Venom). This car would have taken it's class were it not for a pesky intercooler hose. I'm more impressed with the Evo than ever, and all of you out there still thinking it's just a supped up econobox need to be smacked. I doubt you'll ever see this Shiv but grats, you'll take top honors next year unless another Subaru/Mitsubishi tuner has something to say about it :p
Yes the Evo and WRX's go like stink and grip very well, but they are still dressed up soap boxes...they demonstrate the worst qualities in car design these days."hey we need a sports car for our line up, let's stick a sh*t load of spoilers and a big-*** wing on the car and drop a killer motor in it and call it a sports car."
ugly, ugly and ...oh ya, UGLY.
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Originally Posted by rotten42
ugly, ugly and ...oh ya, UGLY.
The only thing you've gotta say about it is UGLY! you know what? my RX8 is UGLY. GODAWFUL. Its busier than a f'ing LA highway. It's got more curves than tail of the dragon, the tailights look like a work from Dali (yack!), the wheel gap is bigger than the Grand Canyon
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But I love it for what it is....
And, btw, I hope you know you can get an STi / Evo w/o wing.
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Originally Posted by rotten42
"hey we need a sports car for our line up, let's stick a sh*t load of spoilers and a big-*** wing on the car and drop a killer motor in it and call it a sports car."
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here is the deal,
The evo is like an ugly ****, yeah she screws, but do you really want to be seen in public with her?
Where as, with a real supercar, you don't mind doin it with the lights on
The evo is like an ugly ****, yeah she screws, but do you really want to be seen in public with her?
Where as, with a real supercar, you don't mind doin it with the lights on
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
here is the deal,
The evo is like an ugly ****, yeah she screws, but do you really want to be seen in public with her?
Where as, with a real supercar, you don't mind doin it with the lights on
The evo is like an ugly ****, yeah she screws, but do you really want to be seen in public with her?
Where as, with a real supercar, you don't mind doin it with the lights on
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Originally Posted by WilliamT
I agree with Rupes. Even if the EVO had 1000 hp with a 0-60 time of 1 second, it wouldn't be on my list. Its just personal preference. I would much rather own a Lamborghini, Ferrari, or some other exotic. I would even consider a Porsche over a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.
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Originally Posted by rotten42
Yes the Evo and WRX's go like stink and grip very well, but they are still dressed up soap boxes...they demonstrate the worst qualities in car design these days."hey we need a sports car for our line up, let's stick a sh*t load of spoilers and a big-*** wing on the car and drop a killer motor in it and call it a sports car."
Personally, I really like the way that STis look. It looks aggressive without seeming rediculous, even with its boxy lines. I also like most of the Evo's design except for the corporate grill in the front. The Evo VI and VII were good looking cars IMO and I hope that the corporate look goes away when the next generation Evo comes out. Regardless of what anyone thinks of the looks, everyone agrees that the Evo and STi offer great performance for the price, and that is what they were designed to do.
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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
The evo is like an ugly ****, yeah she screws, but do you really want to be seen in public with her?
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Watch out for Road Race Engineering (RRE) - they have really had a lot of success with suspension set-ups and the privateer, Robi (suspension set up by RRE) who has been doing quite well road racing.
Here's the shooutout results:
1 Robert Fuller 1:24.332 Buschur-RRE-Muellerized
2 Kent Jordan 1:25.200 Muellerized-RRE
3 Mark McComsey 1:25.210 EOC-Quantum Racing-Muellerized-RRE
4 Dieter Heinz-Kijjora 1:26.220 Group 5 Motorsports-Muellerized-RRE
5 Ricky Rogers 1:26.238 Muellerized-RRE-4G63.com
6 Emile Bouret 1:26.333 Sparco-Muellerized
7 Paul Lambert 1:26.391 ForcedFed
8 Robert Tallini 1:28.285 RRE
9 Lawrence Yip 1:28.410 A-Spec
10 Frank Lin 1:29.348 Volk Racing / Toyo Tires
11 Corey Taguchi 1:33.211 B&M Racing / Drift Speed
12 Peter Beck 1:33.278 Symbolic Motors
13 Abbas Nazari 1:33.737 Team D Motorsports
14 Sammy Alinaeem 1:36.428 Race Centric
15 Mohammad Abuqartuni 1:38.800 SuperStreet Cars
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthr...m.net+shootout
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Originally Posted by WilliamT
I agree with Rupes. Even if the EVO had 1000 hp with a 0-60 time of 1 second, it wouldn't be on my list. Its just personal preference. I would much rather own a Lamborghini, Ferrari, or some other exotic. I would even consider a Porsche over a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.
Well, If I had a extra 70 to 100 grand to play with I would want a Ferrari, Porsche, Lambo too!!
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I have much respect for Evo's, and they have truly amazing potential. But I could never have one as a daily driver, just not what I was looking for in a car.
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