What about Some Cold AIR??
07-02-2004, 06:33 AM
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What about Some Cold AIR??
I just heard that a very cleaver man here in GREECE,finded a way to make cold air from the airconditiong system to go straight in the motor....And I think you know about how good is cold air fot the motor....What do you think about that??
Is anyone out there with the same idea???Can you provide some info??
Is anyone out there with the same idea???Can you provide some info??
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This has been in a few other threads, Ford has played with the idea for years in some of their concepts. From my understanding, It is used as a momentary akin to nitrous. Can't comment on horsepower gains.
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When he turns on the AC the cold air goes straight to the machine..So it has better and cleaner air.And the machine doesn't heat up and the air filter takes only cold air from the motor..I really need to know about gains cause i think there will be some valuable gains..
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I believe the ford lightening did this but it would store the air up and it compressed it- then there was a button inside and you would hit it and it would squirt, and was good for 30 to 35 hp gains!!! but who am I to say......................
07-02-2004, 10:27 AM
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When he turns on the AC the cold air goes straight to the machine..So it has better and cleaner air.And the machine doesn't heat up and the air filter takes only cold air from the motor..I really need to know about gains cause i think there will be some valuable gains..
When he turns on the AC the cold air goes straight to the machine..So it has better and cleaner air.And the machine doesn't heat up and the air filter takes only cold air from the motor..I really need to know about gains cause i think there will be some valuable gains..
Say the engine at full throttle needs 500 cubic feet per minute. The air conditioner unit can only cool 100 cubic feet per minute. (numbers are for illustration purposes only, I don't know the exact engine or AC numbers, but they will be reasonably close). There is NO way that the AC unit can provide enough cold air to make a significant difference to the engine. There simply is not enough air volume. Further, the AC takes additional HP to run, and even if you had enough volume of cold air, it would barely compensate for the power required to run the AC. Did your friend know that all manufacturers have an AC cutout switch that turns off the AC compressor when you use full throttle above a certain rpm? That's to eliminate the HP drag of the compressor when you need maximum power.
What Ford is doing is storing the cold air compressed, to be used for short bursts (measure in seconds, not minutes).
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Thank you Gordon 4 ur help.I just heard this thing and i was with the mouth wide open..But now it seems clear to me and i want make something like that in my 8.Thanks man
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Originally posted by Gord96BRG
No, not as you describe. Simply - the AC system can not put out enough air volume to meet the engine demands.
Say the engine at full throttle needs 500 cubic feet per minute. The air conditioner unit can only cool 100 cubic feet per minute. (numbers are for illustration purposes only, I don't know the exact engine or AC numbers, but they will be reasonably close). There is NO way that the AC unit can provide enough cold air to make a significant difference to the engine. There simply is not enough air volume. Further, the AC takes additional HP to run, and even if you had enough volume of cold air, it would barely compensate for the power required to run the AC. Did your friend know that all manufacturers have an AC cutout switch that turns off the AC compressor when you use full throttle above a certain rpm? That's to eliminate the HP drag of the compressor when you need maximum power.
What Ford is doing is storing the cold air compressed, to be used for short bursts (measure in seconds, not minutes).
Regards,
Gordon
No, not as you describe. Simply - the AC system can not put out enough air volume to meet the engine demands.
Say the engine at full throttle needs 500 cubic feet per minute. The air conditioner unit can only cool 100 cubic feet per minute. (numbers are for illustration purposes only, I don't know the exact engine or AC numbers, but they will be reasonably close). There is NO way that the AC unit can provide enough cold air to make a significant difference to the engine. There simply is not enough air volume. Further, the AC takes additional HP to run, and even if you had enough volume of cold air, it would barely compensate for the power required to run the AC. Did your friend know that all manufacturers have an AC cutout switch that turns off the AC compressor when you use full throttle above a certain rpm? That's to eliminate the HP drag of the compressor when you need maximum power.
What Ford is doing is storing the cold air compressed, to be used for short bursts (measure in seconds, not minutes).
Regards,
Gordon
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