What features would you like in your brand new RX-7
11-09-2012, 05:35 AM
#26
RX8 & RX7 owner
E-85 ???? 2 or 3 rotor Turbo? I know I've seen a couple of Turbo'd FD and FC running E85 in the 500HP range. (wiki)
E85 has a number of advantages over conventional gasoline. One advantage is a reduction in tailpipe emissions. [1] Another advantage is a high effective octane rating, reducing engine heat and wear, and increasing performance. Because the ethanol component effectively displaces fossil fuels with energy harvested from renewable sources, in theory E85 is less carbon intensive than petroleum.
Alcohol fuels reach their peak torque a bit more quickly than gasoline does, so any vehicle that receives a very basic conversion to be able to run on E85 will be very slightly faster on E85.
As more effort is put into maximizing an engine to take advantage of E85's higher "octane, engines achieve greater power advantages. One car that has higher power on ethanol is the Koenigsegg CCXR, which on ethanol is the third-most powerful production car, with 20% more hp on E85 than on gasoline. According to the manufacturer, this is due to the cooling properties of ethanol.E85 has an octane rating higher than that of regular gasoline's typical rating of 87, or premium gasoline's 91-93.
Because of the lower heating value E85 has a cooler intake charge—which, coupled with its high stability level from its high octane rating—has also been used as a "power adder" in turbocharged performance vehicles. These modifications have not only resulted in lower GHG emissions, but also resulted in 10-12% power and torque increase at the wheels. Because of its low price (less than $2.00/gal in some places) and high availability in certain areas people have started to turn to using it in place of high-end racing fuels, which typically cost over $10.00/gal.
E85 has a number of advantages over conventional gasoline. One advantage is a reduction in tailpipe emissions. [1] Another advantage is a high effective octane rating, reducing engine heat and wear, and increasing performance. Because the ethanol component effectively displaces fossil fuels with energy harvested from renewable sources, in theory E85 is less carbon intensive than petroleum.
Alcohol fuels reach their peak torque a bit more quickly than gasoline does, so any vehicle that receives a very basic conversion to be able to run on E85 will be very slightly faster on E85.
As more effort is put into maximizing an engine to take advantage of E85's higher "octane, engines achieve greater power advantages. One car that has higher power on ethanol is the Koenigsegg CCXR, which on ethanol is the third-most powerful production car, with 20% more hp on E85 than on gasoline. According to the manufacturer, this is due to the cooling properties of ethanol.E85 has an octane rating higher than that of regular gasoline's typical rating of 87, or premium gasoline's 91-93.
Because of the lower heating value E85 has a cooler intake charge—which, coupled with its high stability level from its high octane rating—has also been used as a "power adder" in turbocharged performance vehicles. These modifications have not only resulted in lower GHG emissions, but also resulted in 10-12% power and torque increase at the wheels. Because of its low price (less than $2.00/gal in some places) and high availability in certain areas people have started to turn to using it in place of high-end racing fuels, which typically cost over $10.00/gal.
11-09-2012, 05:49 AM
#27
* Roadster and it is able to be cheap 
and everbody will buy !
* 1000-1200 kg's enough
* 300 hp na rotary with range extender
* Maybe engine in the front range extender in the back with everybody see like exotics and give them product numbers on range extenders to be unique !
* Put it on a fuel comsumption gauge to see mileage !
* Create the shape of the furai ! it is looking like to be Zonda's maybe roadster version looks like Zonda S 7.3
and everbody will buy !* 1000-1200 kg's enough
* 300 hp na rotary with range extender
* Maybe engine in the front range extender in the back with everybody see like exotics and give them product numbers on range extenders
to be unique !* Put it on a fuel comsumption gauge
to see mileage !* Create the shape of the furai ! it is looking like to be Zonda's maybe roadster version looks like Zonda S 7.3
11-09-2012, 06:16 AM
#29
RX8 & RX7 owner
If you think about it, Speed Source was selling their 3 rotor cars for $60,000k correct? With extras! And those things are nuts. If they can give that away for that price, make something similar production wise.
JIC was also selling their 13brew swapped sub 2600lb rx8 with 500+ HP for $60,000....
See what I'm getting at? $60,000, under 2600 lbs, 3 rotor NA or 2 rotor Turbo, 450+HP track monsters.
JIC was also selling their 13brew swapped sub 2600lb rx8 with 500+ HP for $60,000....
See what I'm getting at? $60,000, under 2600 lbs, 3 rotor NA or 2 rotor Turbo, 450+HP track monsters.
Last edited by ZumnRx8; 11-09-2012 at 06:20 AM.
11-09-2012, 06:39 AM
#30
If you think about it, Speed Source was selling their 3 rotor cars for $60,000k correct? With extras! And those things are nuts. If they can give that away for that price, make something similar production wise.
JIC was also selling their 13brew swapped sub 2600lb rx8 with 500+ HP for $60,000....
See what I'm getting at? $60,000, under 2600 lbs, 3 rotor NA or 2 rotor Turbo, 450+HP track monsters.
JIC was also selling their 13brew swapped sub 2600lb rx8 with 500+ HP for $60,000....
See what I'm getting at? $60,000, under 2600 lbs, 3 rotor NA or 2 rotor Turbo, 450+HP track monsters.
You have absolutely no idea of what it takes to design a production car that has to fulfill several needs and meet many safety requirements.
11-09-2012, 07:38 AM
#32
RX8 & RX7 owner
Bse50- I know, that's why I said "Gave it away".
I might have no idea but I do know what I want (already listed) and what I'm willing to openly pay ($60k) ...of course if they bring more than expected to the table...what's from stretching another Nickel
I might have no idea but I do know what I want (already listed) and what I'm willing to openly pay ($60k) ...of course if they bring more than expected to the table...what's from stretching another Nickel
11-09-2012, 10:12 AM
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^^^ so willing to pay $60K for no AC, horrible ride for public streets, no working windows, and no interior? hmmm
I think at $50-60K mazda could produce a Cayman S competitor maybe even Cayman R? And I would gladly but that with Mazda's new styling.
I think at $50-60K mazda could produce a Cayman S competitor maybe even Cayman R? And I would gladly but that with Mazda's new styling.
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11-09-2012, 11:21 AM
#35
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A reliable engine in itself will be the best thing they can offer. And I still can't understand how some people keep talking about a 'stripped down' interior. So are we expecting Mazda to sell the new RX-7 with a stripped down interior, a roll care and free racing helmet?
Very few people in their right minds would buy a brand new sports that at least doesn't have a decent radio and a couple of fancy lights inside.
11-09-2012, 11:33 AM
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I'll make my requests/suggestions real and practical:
1/ ENGINE: A light weight more efficient, properly tested NA rotary making close to 300 hp and close to 200 lb/ft torque. Definitely need a separate oil metering tank with a level sensor.
2/ FUEL EFFICIENCY: 30 mpg hwy
3/ BODY DESIGN: As sexy as possible hatchback 2 door body, obviously with Kodo themed style. 2600 base weight.
4/ INTERIOR: Modern yet simple high quality interior with soft plastics and nothing rattling (Some FDs). I need the tachometer to be the central large focus as usual. Seats should be slimmer and much lighter weight than RX-8, yet strong and durable. Mazda has not had the best seats that they could do in their segments throughout the years. I want 0 rotor symbols in the interior unless it is an extremely well done 50th anniversary badge (Definitely no headrest rotors).
5/ TRANSMISSIONS: 6 Speed manual Skyactiv gearbox. Has to be easy to use with short clean direct feel shifts. 6 speed Skyactiv Auto with paddle shifting and optimized rev matched downshifts.
6/ WHEELS: Start with 16s and go up to 18s like the RX-8 had. Lighter than the 23 lbs 18s on the 8 is essential. I think 3 wheel sizes, 16,17,18.
7/ SUSPENSION: ALUMINUM everywhere and multilink stuff if they want. We do not want McPherson strut on the front, thank you. I trust them to figure out the right suspension solutions.
8/ EXHAUST: Straight and simple. Maybe exiting in the center.
That's my quick list.
Paul.
1/ ENGINE: A light weight more efficient, properly tested NA rotary making close to 300 hp and close to 200 lb/ft torque. Definitely need a separate oil metering tank with a level sensor.
2/ FUEL EFFICIENCY: 30 mpg hwy
3/ BODY DESIGN: As sexy as possible hatchback 2 door body, obviously with Kodo themed style. 2600 base weight.
4/ INTERIOR: Modern yet simple high quality interior with soft plastics and nothing rattling (Some FDs). I need the tachometer to be the central large focus as usual. Seats should be slimmer and much lighter weight than RX-8, yet strong and durable. Mazda has not had the best seats that they could do in their segments throughout the years. I want 0 rotor symbols in the interior unless it is an extremely well done 50th anniversary badge (Definitely no headrest rotors).
5/ TRANSMISSIONS: 6 Speed manual Skyactiv gearbox. Has to be easy to use with short clean direct feel shifts. 6 speed Skyactiv Auto with paddle shifting and optimized rev matched downshifts.
6/ WHEELS: Start with 16s and go up to 18s like the RX-8 had. Lighter than the 23 lbs 18s on the 8 is essential. I think 3 wheel sizes, 16,17,18.
7/ SUSPENSION: ALUMINUM everywhere and multilink stuff if they want. We do not want McPherson strut on the front, thank you. I trust them to figure out the right suspension solutions.
8/ EXHAUST: Straight and simple. Maybe exiting in the center.
That's my quick list.
Paul.
-It will lack complexity - it will not be another FD
-It will brake better then just about anything but a race car
-It will be well balanced, and will rocket through a slalom - very tossable
-The driver will feel connected with the road as compared to anything else in the market segment
-Mazda is saying "up to 300 hp" - that means it will be 285-290 bhp, that will equate to a little less than 200 tq
-It will be available in yellow, but only for 1 year
-It will not be a drag car
-The tach will be front and center
-The suspension will be fully adjustable
-It will be light as compared to the market segment
-It will not have a 700 tq rated drivetrain like a Toyota
-There will be a R1/GTUs type option
-The cooling system will be far from perfect for hot weather or track days
11-09-2012, 11:55 AM
#37
RX8 & RX7 owner
so many flaws owning a 2004 AT... 4 speed, single oil cooler, + everything else, and all the recalls....
Last edited by ZumnRx8; 11-09-2012 at 11:58 AM.
11-09-2012, 02:07 PM
#40
Rockie Mountain Newbie
But, as what always happens, when a new car is launched, the dealership's will attach bs market adjustment and exotic car fees to it, so even if it is a $40k car, the first several months of buyers will be paying a premium for it.
Anyway, it's going to be a while before the first bumper molds are built, and who knows what's going to happen to Mazda in these coming years, not to mention our lives themselves.
BC.
11-09-2012, 04:11 PM
#41
The X is silent
Actually, most Lotus cars have a few whistles in them nowadays, and I find the interior on the Elise/Exige to be quite tasteful. Cayman on the other hand 
The main reason I'm not a bigger Lotus fan (read: Driver) is that they tend to be a little too delicate.I guess you're not a yoga instructor, either!
11-09-2012, 04:49 PM
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I would be happy with a reinvented FD with a reliable 16X non turbo weighing in around 2600 lbs. Sell one version with features comparable to the sport rx-8.
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11-09-2012, 09:06 PM
#43
I really only see E85 as a viable fuel for (production) sports cars if it's intended for a very low volume production run or added to vehicles after the fact.
11-10-2012, 09:08 PM
#46
Ok why not:
1==it will not happen--but drivers seat in the center
2- 8 speed dual clutch transmission ( a good one)
3- better ignition system
4- better cooling ( coolant and oil) systems--aux electric water pump
5- 2+2 config
6- wgt as mentioned
7- good visibility
8- better audio and rear view mirror
9-real gauges
10 central tach with digital speedometer
11- a 10 sec 0-100 mph performance level.
12--comes with great tires.
13- easy access oil filter/engine etc.
14- easy access to sparkplugs--or laser sparkplugs
to tell you the truth if they would drop a small 3 rotor into the R3 ( get it?), for me it would be perfect and I would pay in the low 40's for it.
1==it will not happen--but drivers seat in the center
2- 8 speed dual clutch transmission ( a good one)
3- better ignition system
4- better cooling ( coolant and oil) systems--aux electric water pump
5- 2+2 config
6- wgt as mentioned
7- good visibility
8- better audio and rear view mirror
9-real gauges
10 central tach with digital speedometer
11- a 10 sec 0-100 mph performance level.
12--comes with great tires.
13- easy access oil filter/engine etc.
14- easy access to sparkplugs--or laser sparkplugs
to tell you the truth if they would drop a small 3 rotor into the R3 ( get it?), for me it would be perfect and I would pay in the low 40's for it.
11-10-2012, 10:56 PM
#47
Rotary Frontier
To sum up everything I want with the new RX7, besides all the upgrades of the suspension, exhaust and more power at the same time more fuel efficient:
AUXILIARY for your iphone/android/Galaxy!!!
AUXILIARY for your iphone/android/Galaxy!!!
11-11-2012, 01:05 AM
#48
rev it up
It will probably compete with the Nissan GTR so it will need to match performance. However, it can be done by the renowned low weight and brillaint dynamics of the RX platform
