U can use the VDC as long as u dont abuse the **** outta it like em dumbass ppl who buy the GTR and decide they want to show it off at every light and intersection! Yes u can use it but no u cant do it 10 times a friggin day! do u think ur RX8 clutch would last if everytime u took it out of the garage u launch it onto the driveway?!?!?! and dont give me that 'read the owners manual' bullshit because for starters a friend of mine owns a pearl white GTR and i too own a R34 GTR so im pretty darn sure i know what i am saying...... haters will be haters!

 

hahahaha im not even going to bother responding to that dude, he obviously can't read

 

The fact that they put a dedicated chart in the manual to document transmission replacements should be a red flag. Nissan also has owners sign a waiver that they understand turning off VDC voids the trans warranty.

Back to the ZR1.

 

so that fact that Mazda making a recall on the renesis must be a red flag that the rx8 engine is a time bomb waiting to happen. same hater logic as the idiots on the civic forums bad mouthing the rx8.

 

No point bro....some people just dont understand...

 

Zr1>gtr

 

cobalt SS can easily beat that.

 

It specifically states that disabling the VDC can be cause to void your warranty. I don't want to say doing it once is going to void it, but they really don't put a hard count in there so the figure is just out there. I personally think the car is pretty much amazing, but I think that letting an owner disable something that can void his warranty and only being able to do the numbers advertised by disabling said features is a little shadey. I uploaded the clause im pointing towards in the other ZR1 thread if you would like to see what I'm trying to state(the pics on my work computer and im at home ).
Either way I have a feeling that a very good majority of the people that own the things are extremely happy with their purchase because having been along on a ride in one they certainly aren't too shabby! I mean cmon guys I'd think out of anyone an Rx8 owners forum would know that sometimes people just like to have a car that's a little different regardless if it is the fastest thing out there.

 

You're the one who obviously isn't comprehending the situation. Your example is worthless.

Recall = discoving a problem AFTER THE FACT
Having owners sign a waiver as they're BUYING the car = totally different scenario.


back to the Zee Really Fast 1

 

HAHA!!! Anyone else notice that autoblog mispelled Corvette in their gallery?!

"Covette ZR1 burnouts"

 

You obviously don't know anything about the tranny or the car itself. As far as I know the GT-R is pretty rock solid, it can take tons of abuse, ppl in southeast asia has been racing that sucker around tracks with 40+ Celsius road temp for laps with HKS's VAC without the need to slow down for cool off. I cant say the same could be done for our RX-8 without major cooling mod.

Some ppl might not know whats HKS's VAC ? Cuz in Japan, the GPS system on GT-R is used for detecting the car's location, if the location is around Race tracks in Japan, the Lock will "automatically turn off". So people can use Full power of the car. VAC is a sub comp to defeat the 180km Lock on GT-R, it also takes over Tranny's operation after the 180km. Not sure if the US version has this lock tho.

signing a waiver does not mean that the tranny will blow up in seconds. It might be a bit too much, but hey if Im Nissan I probably do the same thing.

 

If you turn of VDC you void you warranty - and it gets recorded in black box for some time .... so they will know
... they knew that their trany sucks / cant handle the power so they insured their a$$ from any one who wanted to use their car as it was ment to be.

In other words car is not suited for takeoffs, cant imagine that trany will last that long on the track when racing with other cars / obstacles.
- car is total failure for the price

 

rofl. another one of those "his mom's friend's dad's neighbor's friend's uncle's sister's friend's cousin's dog said ... " bs

Sorry but I seen enough proof that this engine and tranny can take TONS of abuse. Nissan has said that this tranny is good for up to around 650 whp(!) b4 stronger parts are needed. Is that enough ?

Do you know that Porsche will void ur warranty if they know u have been racing ? no need to sign any waivers but they do check ur computer for data, its not that hard to tell what the owner has been doing to their car.

 

Enough about the ZR1 and GTR, lets talk about your ride!!!

 

From all reports the tranny cant take the abuse, this is why all tuners have stopped at the 600 or so hp mark. The Japanese tuners were the first to find this limit.

According to owners, Porsche are more generous when breaking parts in a racing environment. Porsche knows that its biggest advantage is through its racing image and its racing history. Like the corvette guys Porsche will generally replace the parts even when they suspect abuse and tell the owner that the next breakage might not be covered.

 

NOW BACK TO THE ZR1



ZR1 Goes 200+ MPH! - 2009 Corvette ZR1 Top Speed Run
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=MxwZhWQYWcQ

 

So exactly. there is a limit. remember its still a street car afterall.

and that does not make the Tranny suck, at stock form, its more than enough.

So if we turbo charge our 8 and then something breaks, and Mazda is not covering it, can we say our car sucks ? I know I wouldn't, but I know people like tibyABv6 would and there are more people like tibyABv6 out there than people like me. OMG IT SUX !

what makes people think that they have the right to "abuse" it and expect Nissan to cover it 100% ?


Porsche is ok, but still they will only cover you once.

 

I would just like to say that I know nothing about the GTR. If the tranny can take the punishment, explain then why they make you sign a waiver about turning of the VDC(if there is such a waiver)?

 

I'm not so sure about the waiver either, but it is specifically printed in their owners manual that turning it off can be cause to void the warranty of the car.

 

Because under normal driving condition, there is no reason to turn VDC off.

Just like Our rx-8, we dont have to sign a wavier, but if we turn it off completely and some accident happen, insurance company has the right to deny the claim, correct ?

Some people might hate it. but hey, thats the rule.

Dont like it ? dont buy it.

Turn it off ? u're on ur own now buddy.

Not to mention, you can still use aftermarket ECU(like Mine's or Amuse) or HKS's VAC to defeat that.

 

^^its definitely bad on nissan's part. But its a case of them trying to cover their *** because they know some people will be driving it hard competitively and recreationally on the track, and they dont want to end up having to spend a lot of money replacing parts that were abused. This does not translate into GT-R's tranny is a ticking time bomb. Some haters like to get carried away.

Eitherway, ZR-1 > GT-R, good for Chevy and good for the vette. No props to the haters who are pulling things out of their ***.

 

Page 52 isn't a warning. It's a score card.

You win a prize if you can manage to fill the entire page up.

 

Yes, but they are saying that your warranty will be void not your insurance coverage. Would anyone be happy with mazda saying the same if we turn off our TC? I'm not the most car savy person but aren't there times when you want to turn of TC? Like for instance, when you get stuck in the snow? So if I get my (I wish) GTR stuck in the snow and I turn VDC off and they find out, my warranty is gone? Am I correct in my assumption? That makes no sence. They can show misuse and abuse in many other ways, this whole VDC thing is just to extreme.

Edit: Just found this "Operating the vehicle with the Vehicle Dynamic Control
(VDC) off, except when rocking vehicle when stuck in
mud or snow (see GT-R Owner's Manual)." How would they know you weren't stuck in snow or mud?

 

what about

Edit: Just found this "Operating the vehicle with the Vehicle Dynamic Control
(VDC) off, except when rocking vehicle when stuck in
mud or snow (see GT-R Owner's Manual)." How would they know you weren't stuck in snow or mud?


...if you dont brake your trany they will not know since they will not pull information from it ... if you brake your trany while rocking your car with VDC of they will asume that you had done hard takeof and void woranty ... i don't think those tranies are repairable since no one knows how in US...they also might look on how many time it was of and for what period of time, but they will always blame it on you since dealer will not want to pay $20,000 for new trany

 

they have Baby Jesus on their side