Originally Posted by Kazuma
(Post 3189835)
I've asked you several times..look at the date...no months before I asked what happened...
If this were my issue I would have brought it up until I actually received my AP. I would not have asked, initially, posted a bunch of times in a thread, forgot about it for months and then bring it back up again. If I paid for a 700 dollar mod and issues arose, I would have been in constant contact (through an email/ phone) until it was resolved. |
Originally Posted by DarthRX8
(Post 3189978)
IMO, contacting a vendor on a website, in a thread is not contacting them and should not even be counted!
If this were my issue I would have brought it up until I actually received my AP. I would not have asked, initially, posted a bunch of times in a thread, forgot about it for months and then bring it back up again. If I paid for a 700 dollar mod and issues arose, I would have been in constant contact (through an email/ phone) until it was resolved. |
Originally Posted by rx 8speciale
(Post 3189706)
next time buy from another seller like fluid = good service for what i read.
I haven't seen many post about his tunes. |
One way to solve this problem. MM should have paperwork on sending kazuma his cobb ap. I believe that MM would not screw anyone out of there money. Maybe the package got lost in the mail and or someone stole the package.
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I have trouble believing that there are members out there that actually believe the OP. He admits to a scam on another part, admits that he lied and now wants you to believe he was wronged. Now there are members out there that will not read to whole thread and will think that MM is a "Bad Guy" and then by association any that are his friends. Save me from this stupidity
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i would vouch for MM, though i'm not his fan or anything. i actually have met MM in person during dyno day session here around bay area, cali. he seemed genuinely nice and professional. therefore, i don't think MM would scam anybody. if there was any delay on his shipment whatsoever, i think he either forgot or got caught up with his reality job.
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Originally Posted by invasion08
(Post 3191237)
One way to solve this problem. MM should have paperwork on sending kazuma his cobb ap. I believe that MM would not screw anyone out of there money. Maybe the package got lost in the mail and or someone stole the package.
Originally Posted by Phil's 8
(Post 3191286)
I have trouble believing that there are members out there that actually believe the OP. He admits to a scam on another part, admits that he lied and now wants you to believe he was wronged. Now there are members out there that will not read to whole thread and will think that MM is a "Bad Guy" and then by association any that are his friends. Save me from this stupidity
I just want to work out what happened with the AP. I lied one time like I said from the beginning in this thread. That was one big mistake, I know. MM says I lied one more time because I got the AP but he cannot verify that because there is no paperwork! |
Lol, this thread has so many funny quotes. I just wanted to say thanks for the laughs. Especially Stealth with the huge acronym "AFAIK". :mdrmed:
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Originally Posted by Kazuma
(Post 3191809)
Exactly for both! But I think he don't have one anymore!
Why should I ask for a tracking number (did so a few times before MM told me he has no paperwork anymore) which I want to be provided here in this thread if I'm lying and got the AP? Anyone could see this - doesn't make any sence! I just want to work out what happened with the AP. I lied one time like I said from the beginning in this thread. That was one big mistake, I know. MM says I lied one more time because I got the AP but he cannot verify that because there is no paperwork! To everyone that is telling BHR and Jeff how to run their company: If you dont like they way they run their business, then do not buy from them. There are too many satisfied customers to deal with a handful of fucktards. If you dont like bestbuy, staples or any other business because you do not agree with their service, prices, or quality, do you still go to them? Most likely not. Why sould this be any different. I would much rather get a good quality product and sacrifice a little customer service(due to being busy or what have you shit happens) then get a crappy product with great customer service. Then again, with the members on this site, maybe the second part of my last statement is true. Just look at all of the "OMG $600 turbo on ebay" threads Jeff: If you havent done this already, make a special folder in your email for kazuma and save ALL emails to and from him. I have a feeling you may need them later on. these are not my thoughts, but it is a good idea of the past. for the new that are looking at this. beers :beer: |
This is pointless.. You guys both managed to go 3 pages without proving anything =)
I will pick the vendor in this situation though... I changed my mind, you shouldn't have lied in the first place. For all we know you got the parts on your car right now lol. I don't think he would be a vendor if this happened. |
dude cant you just ask for a trace from the shipping company?
OD |
Originally Posted by olddragger
(Post 3195987)
dude cant you just ask for a trace from the shipping company?
OD |
Originally Posted by mazdamaniac
(Post 3187753)
i'm already perceived as an asshole around here, anyway. Its part of my charm.
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
(Post 3196099)
I don't see this happening this time, in this thread, but I do appreciate the thought, swoope.
Good thing BHR doesn't typically cause such a compromise to be made, eh? ;) I am pretty sure all of us at BHR have proven that waiting= NO compromise. :) People should also notice how BHR and MM are not the same entity. We all know that Jeff doesn't have the best customer service around (yet he offers the best service) while BHR usually has better customer relationships. Now Charles prove what i wrote and reply to my mail :rofl: |
I hate how you always put things better than i do.
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:lol:
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I wasnt talking about MM putting a trace on it man--i was thinking you could do this--you dont need a shipping number to do it.
OD |
lol.
Good luck with this. Im not taking either side... but just give Kazuma the tracking number to see who's fault it was. If you sent to him (Which you said you did), why can't you send to him again. Scam or no scam, atleast give it to the guy so that this issue gets resolved and he can get (or return if that's even possible) the AP which he said he paid for. |
Originally Posted by shazy
(Post 3200047)
but just give Kazuma the tracking number to see who's fault it was. If you sent to him (Which you said you did), why can't you send to him again.
I sent the number, we got the confirmation and that was the end of that. Last year. I don't have the data any more because it was confirmed as received. Since then, I've started to let Google track the shipping - just for crooks like Mo. |
damn kazuma fails he should just not show his face i hate dishonest people, mazdamaniac ftw
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 3200302)
Because, as I stated already, I don't have it any more.
I sent the number, we got the confirmation and that was the end of that. Last year. I don't have the data any more because it was confirmed as received. Since then, I've started to let Google track the shipping - just for crooks like Mo. Oh sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought you just didn't have the paper that said you sold it to him bla bla bla shipped it bla bla bla. Ok My bad. For once you are nice :D |
Everyone here says "Kazuma fails" or "dumbest scam ever" but I didn't wrote I want the money back or something like that in this thread. I just wrote I want to find out what was going on. Something went wrong and I want to know what and where it was.
I paid, MM shipped but I got nothing. So there must be a problem on the way from UPS to me and this is what I want to find out. I've lied one time and that wasn't nice but that doesn't change the facts that I never recieved an AP! |
Originally Posted by Kazuma
(Post 3200509)
Everyone here says "Kazuma fails" or "dumbest scam ever" but I didn't wrote I want the money back or something like that in this thread. I just wrote I want to find out what was going on. Something went wrong and I want to know what and where it was.
I paid, MM shipped but I got nothing. So there must be a problem on the way from UPS to me and this is what I want to find out. I've lied one time and that wasn't nice but that doesn't change the facts that I never recieved an AP! |
Originally Posted by robrecht
(Post 3200535)
So why did you lie? Did you say you crashed your car when you were trying to get out of the turbo purchase? No one is going to believe you after that first lie was exposed in the earlier thread.
MM, please tell me which company you've used for shipping th AP! |
Originally Posted by Kazuma
(Post 3200548)
I've wrote I wrecked my car because I never got a tracking number or my AP and so I was thinking he hadn't shipped it yet.
And after your lie was exposed, why should anyone believe you now? Where are you from, BTW? Does this kind of 'logic' work better in some other language or culture? |
I've just talked to UPS and USPS. [EDIT]MM wrote USPS[/EDIT]
UPS told me, there wasn't any package for me since june 2008. So I've talked to USPS and they told me, they can't give me that info because I'm the adressee - the tracking number is needed. They also told me only the sender can re-purchase that number within 12-16 months. So MM, please go to USPS and let them give you the tracking number again. Then I can talk to USPS with the tracking number in my hands and they can tell me what went wrong. |
Originally Posted by robrecht
(Post 3200557)
Where are you from, BTW? Does this kind of 'logic' work better in some other language or culture?
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Yeah. You could do that..
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Originally Posted by robrecht
(Post 3200567)
I just noticed your from Germany. Why not try your explanation in German, both MM and I speak German. Maybe it will make more sense in your native language. And if not, at least we can brush up our German skills.
OP: How do we expect vendors to act reasonably if we go around lying about wrecked cars instead of saying things like they are? If anything you got a good lesson I'd say. |
Originally Posted by neXib
(Post 3200697)
I don't think it makes sense in German, or Klingon either for that matter :yumyum:
OP: How do we expect vendors to act reasonably if we go around lying about wrecked cars instead of saying things like they are? If anything you got a good lesson I'd say. |
I say contact the company who shipped it and get the information from them. If they can show they have the tracking info then drop it, if not then someone's got some explaining to do.
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Who gives a fawk, close this thread.
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I have already admitted my mistake and accepted responsibility for the lie. Who of you can guarantee me that he hasn't also lied to me, maybe even more than once, during this whole story between us? Who of you guy's can tell me that he hasn't also lied to other customers who have bought something from him?
He is a great guy and invaluable vendor on this forum but he isn't perfect. I'm not, too, but at least I have admitted my mistake. |
Mo -
This is very simple. I DO NOT HAVE THE TRACKING DATA ANY MORE. I send ALL foreign shipments via USPS. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE TRACKING DATA ANY MORE. How many more times and in how many more ways do I need to say this? Die Tracking-Daten nicht mehr existiert. Niemand kann es zu reproduzieren. Es ist weg. Once I got a confirmation that you received the unit, I got rid of the shipping paperwork. This was a mistake - I didn't think you were gonna try to do this to me. These days, I keep everything and trust no one. |
Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
(Post 3200771)
Who gives a fawk, close this thread.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 3201065)
Mo -
This is very simple. I DO NOT HAVE THE TRACKING DATA ANY MORE. I send ALL foreign shipments via USPS. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE TRACKING DATA ANY MORE. How many more times and in how many more ways do I need to say this? Die Tracking-Daten nicht mehr existiert. Niemand kann es zu reproduzieren. Es ist weg. Once I got a confirmation that you received the unit, I got rid of the shipping paperwork. This was a mistake - I didn't think you were gonna try to do this to me. These days, I keep everything and trust no one. |
Originally Posted by Kazuma
(Post 3201098)
I understand what you're saying but USPS told me something different. You can go there and they are able to give you the information I need. You have to say who you are and where the package was shipped to and then they'll give you the tracking number again. That is not what I say, it's what USPS told me!
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Originally Posted by cornholio135
(Post 3201168)
Dude give it up already... Sheeshh... you could have made back your money working somewhere with the amount of time you are putting into this scam after waiting a damn year... What are you going to do?fly over here and get your ass kicked by MM????
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man im glad something like this hasnt happened to me. I hate complications. My AP purchase went nicce and smooth. The only thing was shipping took a little longer about a (WEEK and a half or so) but whos gonna die cause they dont have a cobb ap? heh but you shouldnt have lied. I can understand both or your views. Sometime we as human lie to get out of a situation, and in recent times i just call it the AMERICAN way =D
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lol nicely put.
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The fact that dude lied about his car is irrelevant. He wanted his money back and he is entitled to it IF he did not receive the product. I honestly cant believe you waited a year to AGRESSIVELY press the matter but thats on you. The condition of his car whether its at the bottom of a lake or in his garage really has no basis as to him getting a refund if the product did not meet his satisfaction or did not receive it. Im not taking sides just pointing out that although yes he put his integrity in question the issue here is: customer paid. Seller shipped. customer did not receive product. Goodluck to both of you and hope you can solve the problem.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 3201065)
Mo -
Once I got a confirmation that you received the unit, I got rid of the shipping paperwork. |
lets settle this in a ring at sevenstock then my money is on mm beating kazumas ass any takers
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Originally Posted by Kazuma
(Post 3201098)
I understand what you're saying but USPS told me something different. You can go there and they are able to give you the information I need. You have to say who you are and where the package was shipped to and then they'll give you the tracking number again. That is not what I say, it's what USPS told me!
maybe the address, or a phone #. wondering. chow |
Originally Posted by woopwoop
(Post 3202277)
wondering which branch of the united states postal service you got that info from?
In any event, no - they do not have that ability. I can't just tell them where I mailed something from and to and have them reproduce the shipping info. That just isn't part of the record. All USPS shipping data shows is the number, the delivery status and how to link to the original documents (something only a USPS employee can do). Without that number, none of that information is accessible. It would be like going into a store and asking the clerk to tell you what you purchased on a particular date last year by just telling her you paid with a $10 bill.
Originally Posted by 05rx8mazda
(Post 3201304)
The only thing was shipping took a little longer about a (WEEK and a half or so)
The shipping agreement says 11 business days! You got your AccessPORT early! |
sucks to see something like this going on. I got my ap from Jeff pretty fast also like 05rx8mazda (probably since i live down the street from his old place lol) (az to tx doesn't take long)
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Honestly.. if you have not received the product after 1 month you should have called your credit card company to dispute the transaction.
As far as I know USPS delivery confirmation is worthless for international shipments. The delivery is confirmed once it arrives in Germany. After which, German postal service is responsible for delivering the package. So.. this is all a mute point now since it has been so long, I suggest the next time you buy from a vendor in the US you request insured UPS or FedEx delivery. |
Originally Posted by rollerbldes
(Post 3203387)
As far as I know USPS delivery confirmation is worthless for international shipments. The delivery is confirmed once it arrives in Germany. After which, German postal service is responsible for delivering the package.
I do this all the time with US -> Canada shipments. I have to track it at usps.com until it reaches Canada, then I can track it at canadapost.ca. Just some useful information in case other int'l people want to track their packages :) |
A week and a half?
The shipping agreement says 11 business days! You got your AccessPORT early![/QUOTE] I was comparing myself to the guy. I am a very patient person when it comes to my car. also other items take a couple of days to recieve if they arent on back order. Not lashing out against ya Jeff |
Originally Posted by rollerbldes
(Post 3203387)
Honestly.. if you have not received the product after 1 month you should have called your credit card company to dispute the transaction.
As far as I know USPS delivery confirmation is worthless for international shipments. The delivery is confirmed once it arrives in Germany. After which, German postal service is responsible for delivering the package. So.. this is all a mute point now since it has been so long, I suggest the next time you buy from a vendor in the US you request insured UPS or FedEx delivery. Detailed Results: Delivered Abroad, August 18, 2009, 11:50 am, POLAND Attempted Delivery Abroad, August 17, 2009, 6:30 pm, POLAND Into Foreign Customs, August 10, 2009, 4:18 pm, POLAND Arrived Abroad, August 10, 2009, 1:35 pm, POLAND International Dispatch, August 07, 2009, 5:38 pm, ISC SAN FRANCISCO (USPS) Arrival Electronic Shipping Info Received, August 06, 2009 Processed through Sort Facility, August 06, 2009, 7:24 pm, WEST SACRAMENTO, CA 95799 |
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