Mazsport keeps his car in a public lot? That's pretty !@#$ed up....

IANAL, but the parking lots are marked 'reserved for parking' and in FL that property is considered public use. He wouldn't have a reasonable expectation of privacy there.

They roll cars into the shop when they close up. I haven't visited after hours.

Not to take sides in this dispute(as I don't know the details, but I do have a bit of experience with legal matters) we hafta be careful about the way in which our own actions may influence those of others because legal liabilities are a complex issue and ya never know what some freaks may do to other people's property. It could easily be argued that Mazsport and mysql would be jointly responsible for any damages incurred by the vehicle in the picture. Certain information has been posted which could direct an individual with mailcious intent to a specific and particular vehicle. Had not that information been posted the likelyhood for damage would have been nil. If it can be successfully argued that product manufacturers are somehow responsible for the way in which their products have been used, I am sure such an argument isn't too far off.

There MUST be some other way in which this dispute can be resolved.

Sure, but I would argue that it's well known where Mazsport is located (their address is on their website), and that Stick's car is still located there (He said so himself). My posting the photos doesn't add any additional information that wasn't already known.

Stick's previous photos already identify which vehicle is his. So I'm not even pointing out anything new there either.

I know you're not a fool, so proceed at your own risk. PM me if there is anything I can do to help. I don't like seeing my friends at odds.

hehe. Thanks.

Your posting here gives me something to do in this thread. I can only say "Stick didn't pay me yet" so many times before it becomes annoying.


I'm really astounded with what Stick is doing. He apparently does not plan to pay me back, ever.

If I were to arrange payment from him would you accept it?

As long as the money comes from his pocket, I don't care how I get it.

Is paypal that hard to use?

I'll do what I can aside from bearing the burden myself.

Heh. I wouldn't put too much effort into it. As I said, I am not in dire need of the $50. I just want Stick to not be such a weasel. I didn't think he'd draw it out this long. Anyone who in the past had doubts that he was given a fair shot at paying me back should by now be convinced otherwise.

Like I said, I would prefer paypal. That resolves this right away. But even Stick's empty promise of paying me back by mail is a fake gesture since he directed me to email my address to his school email account and then did not provide me with his email account.

I understand all that, and I certainly have first-hand experience with both sides of such issues(I represented myself in child custody/support matters in court. I now have full-time custody of my kids) and that's why I am willing to help. I'll get 'er done.

Either that, or I'll validate your perspective.:)

Good Luck.

Maybe stick is out of a job.

Heh...its the principle of the thing...I agree...and its simply hilarious to continue to annoy the hell out of him...

I for one approve of your antics...

This is full of win...haaa

I. love. this. thread.

IDK, my training paints the situation with a much more grim facade.

what if?...

Some malicious viewer decides he's bored and wants to spice up this already interesting thread by trashing stick's car with evidence against mysql (something to the extent of scratching the numbers "$50" into the paint and placing a pound of thermite on his hood and setting it on fire)

Ah, the joys of working in a mental institute :)

Charles is right, placing this dispute in the public eye might get things moving, but it also puts you under unnecessary liability.

Two words:

Judge Judy

http://www.judgejudy.com/

you can submit your case from the webpage, and we can all watch :)

I'd tune in :lol2:

Apostle, that will definately not be happening. John's car is brought inside every night. Jason,I am disappointed in your taking pictures of his car for your entertainment on this site. Now I am forced to believe that there could be an attempt of damage any time you are at our shop around his car.

Mazsport is not a bank. We will not assist in any exchanging of moneys for a transaction you guys agreed on outside of Mazsport. I think it is extremely poor taste considering what you were selling.

Betsey knows how to put the smack down!

Of course there was no damage to Stick's car. I have no desire to damage anyone's car. And even if someone assumed I would, then I wouldn't be doing anything that would draw attention to myself :)

I took pictures of every car. Yours too!

Have you seen my car gallery? https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-multimedia-photo-gallery-6/mysql101s-turbocharged-rx-8-a-137580/

I have a ton of photos. I take pictures of everything.

how do I know that is my 7? there are 3 of them out there that look alike, ....just kidding....and bailing out of this thread.

Check out this awesome photo I took in the grocery store. This should prove that I photograph anything.

ITS BACON!!! I LOVE BACON!!!

I HAZ TO BRING HOME TEH BACON!!!

WHY FOR ARE THEY NOT GIVING YOU TEH BACON!?!?!?

I'm sure a lot of people on here have pictures of a lot of cars, but that's not Betsey's point. Her point is that you posting a picture of his car in their lot under these circumstances can be construed as a threat of vandalism... and since the car is currently their responsibility, that's not cool.

You should kill this thread, close your eyes, and imagine that you had spent the $50 on beer and strippers at Mons Venus. :Eyecrazy:

Maybe you'll get lucky and Stick will stop being pissed and send you the money. I doubt it.

What do you mean stick will stop being pissed? He has nothing to be pissed off at. He doesn't even dispute that he owes me the money. He's just not paying it for whatever reason. Given that he's well aware of this thread, and that the issue would be easily closed at any time, I can only assume it is his desire that this not end and this thread continue.

Well, let's see:

1 ) his car is FAR away from him
2) he hasn't driven it in forever
3) you're taking pictures of it and posting them to show that you can at any time walk up to his car and do something to it

That would piss me off.

Plus, you only started this thread after he got caught dragging Mazsport's name through the mud in that other thread (and you guys had your little flamewar). You don't care about the $50, or like I said earlier, you would have done this a lot sooner (and he probably would have paid). You just don't like stick and what stick did/said to/about Mazsport, and you're trying to get back at him for it. Nothing wrong with that, but at least be honest about it. This isn't about principle, this is about using the only dirt you have on someone to try and make them look bad.

Be honest :)

I would have to agree on this...

It's a very simple thing to make this all go away...

At this point its purely an ego thing...

Stick is wrong...he needs to pay up...

Until that happens...you can do whatever you wish to advertise that you have not been paid...

Uhh...no I would disagree...its ALL about the principle of the thing...

I would be doing the same if not worse for $5 bucks...

It's not that I'm petty...its all about the principle of the thing...

You owe me money...you need to pay...if you cant...you need to make arrangements...

DONE

Uhhhh. It takes a picture of his car to show him that I am in the Tampa area? He knew that well before.


It is the principle of it. I had forgotten about the money he owed me till he reminded me.

I posted evidence that he owed me the money, I posted how long he's owed it, and John still refuses to pay it back.

Now, let's be honest, you're taking his side because I own a turbo, aren't you? :)

Posting the picture kind of rubs it in his face (the reason you posted it in the first place)... you're completely missing (or dodging, like you dodged Betsey's statement earlier) the point I was making.

Which again proves my point that you didn't care about the money until he pissed you off (reminded you). I'm just saying, be honest, this is why you have renewed interest in obtaining the $50.

Again, totally missing the point; I'm not taking sides. I'm just pointing out your motive. You're totally free to post your displeasure at his debt, I'm just pointing out that you only did it after you guys had your flamewar in that old thread, when you've been making every effort to have people believe that you've been after him about this money since the beginning.

I've never been biased against other forms of forced induction. Pettit was attractive to me because of its simplicity, and the promise of 300rwhp with stock-like smoothness/drivability with no CEL. They've fulfilled their promise, and I think it was a bargain. I would have had to buy used parts to reach 300rwhp for less than what I paid, and I don't like used parts in my engine bay. 6000+ miles and my car has only been in their shop once since it was installed, and it was to get flashed.

Oh, of course not! You just happen to be at odds with me most of the time for no apparent reason. In fact, even when I'm owed money, you magically appear out of thin air and proclaim I shouldn't be trying to recover my own money. You can try to argue any way you want, but I'm in the right, and you're the odd man out.


You need to learn how to read. My first post in this thread details exactly how the situation came to be, including all the dates at each step. It doesn't get any clearer than that.

Does John owe me money? Yes.
Has John paid me back? No.

You're going to sit there and tell me YOU have no motive to argue against me in something this clear cut?


I think you're at odds with me because you still managed to pay more than I did, and come out with less power and torque. I can even point out when you started being hostile towards me - it started when I pointed out the flaws in your SC.

Speaking of which, due to the inefficiencies your blower, I'm not sure you'll be able to do much better than your existing "stage 2", even with a larger pulley. Your situation is similar to the GReddy turbo sizing. OK for 6 psi, sucks ass much higher. Meanwhile you don't want to know how much power I make at 11 psi with the 3071R.

^

If I had your car, I'd have the testicles...

^

Maybe not... 14 psi in a SS... not good

heh. people keep deleting posts. so nothing is coming out coherent.

i said earlier that I'd do 14 psi when I grew a set of testicles. Right now 11 psi is the bomb and makes 9 psi look slow. I already have all the mods that are required to go higher too. So nothing besides turning up the boost is holding me back.

HUGE Cojones...14 psi with that snail is going to require balls of steel...if you do not snap the drivetrain in the process...heh

yeah.. that's what I worry about. I don't even have 1,000 miles on the new tranny.

I can't remember ever being at odds with you, refresh my memory, and you're still missing my point.

Based on your selective reading, you're the one that needs to learn how to read. I'll make my point again: you brought this up because you got into a flamewar with the guy. I never said he did not owe you money, nor am I arguing about that point. Read my posts a few more times, it'll click eventually.

If you really believe that, you have a lot of growing up to do. I don't even know how much you've paid (nor do I care).

It wasn't hostility, it was a challenge that I offered. You perceived it as hostility because you didn't have the balls to accept the challenge. If I offended you then, you could have brought it to my attention, and I would have apologized, but seeing your personality now, that ship has sailed. Seriously dude, grow up.

I have 300rwhp at ~8psi, to me that's perfect; I don't care what you have. "Stage II" is plenty fast for me, and my challenge of a fun day at the drag strip still stands. If you're willing to "grow some testicles" and risk breaking another transmission, or blowing up your engine with your 11 psi. I'm ready when you are.

Again, I wasn't trying to start an argument. I was suggesting that if you really cared about recovering your $50, you could have found a better way. Since you got into an argument with him, you didn't care to follow those options, instead you used his debt as leverage to make him look bad.

After your whiney posts, I hope he fills up a kiddie pool with $50 in quarters and records himself swimming around in it.

Dear Bastage,

I'm sorry your car is slow. It wasn't my fault. Honest.

I'll remind you that I spent a lot of time discussing this with him in PM over a period of months, and only when I had exhausted all my options, did I start this thread. However I also realize every post you've made in this thread was against me, so I'm under no illusions that you're an objective 3rd party.


I see. If you're done insulting me, and telling me not to recover my money from John, I'd appreciate it if you kept your opinion to yourself.

Apparently I've been on the internet a lot longer than you have. As I know anytime someone degrades into name calling and personal insults, they've already lost the argument and are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Lol. I almost want to un-block him just so I can see the explosion after that one.
Probably something like "You are a poopy head and I'll kill you if I ever occupy the same county as you and I make 300+ HP on 6 PSI and my dad can beat up your dad!".

How small is Stick? He must be the world's smallest midget to be able to swim around in 5 rolls of quarters.

lol, who left the door open at the retard home .... apparently several escaped and headed straight to this forum

See my post about growing up.

I was pretty objective. Now I just see someone whining about their $50. The way you've acted towards stick, I'm pretty sure he feels he has nothing at all to gain in paying you back now. (I sure as hell wouldn't, but the only debt I've held longer than a month is my bloody mortgage).

Fair enough about keeping my opinion to myself. I have too much faith in human beings I guess, but my faith is poorly aimed. Where's the insult? When I quoted you about growing some balls? I guess some people could see that as an insult, but I assure I meant nothing negative about it, and the idea about him swimming in your $50 was a Southpark reference. No victimization to see here.

Name-calling? Where have I done this? Seriously, where have I personally called you a name? Again, trying to make yourself look like a victim, and whining. WAH. Meaningless sentence(s). So your car is faster AND you've been on the internet longer? What's next? Are you going to tell me your penis is bigger, and that your daddy can beat up my daddy? Grow up dude. Seriously...

Very unbecoming of someone who has an FI'd car. You should give it away immediately. :)

If you're going to boast about how fast your car is, then be prepared to back it up (legally). Obviously you're not prepared, or maybe you're just not confident about what's under your hood. Either way boasting on your part is pretty silly. I have never said that my car is faster than anyone's, but if I did, I sure as hell would back up my words with some action, not some jumpy curve on a piece of paper.

ROFL

Damn right it's about the $50. Does it usually take you this long to figure out the obvious?


Yeah, he could repay his debt and do the right thing. I'm glad you're against that. It's good to stand for something.


Yet you keep posting.

Yeah... it's the only way I'll ever get over 8000 posts! Fortunately for everyone, at my current rate it will take me about 80 years... unless I can find some more time after both of my kids are finished with college about 23 years from now...

I can only dream of that day... 23 years from now... I should have about 2600 posts by then... we'll still have our RX-8's... antique license plates... you've grown some testicles... the $50 stick pocketed from you has grown enough for him to buy himself a nice vacation to that beautiful resort on the moon... we take our antique cars to the track (people think they're rare now, imagine 23 years from now) and you finally prove that your car is faster...

:lol:

^ somehow i doubt that will happen...hehehehe

I always knew you were a big HAM. :lol:

Bastage.....seriouslyyyy.....noone Fucks With Someone Elses Money.
Doesnt Matter About Putting Dirt On Him And Bull Shyt Stuff LIKE THAT... tHE POINT IS "NO ONE Fucks With Someone Elses Money And Gets Away".

I wouldn't bank on it either, but sometimes it's fun to dream. Just like it's fun for some people to dream about being gangstas and making veiled threats of vandalism on others property if they don't pay up.

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